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| The problem is that promotion next season will be in the hands of IMG and their formula. It will of course be a bonus to win the championship grand final but it does not guarantee anything. I maybe wrong about the process and I stand to be corrected.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"The problem is that promotion next season will be in the hands of IMG and their formula. It will of course be a bonus to win the championship grand final but it does not guarantee anything. I maybe wrong about the process and I stand to be corrected.'"
It doesn't guarantee anything but it gives you a fraction of a point (0.25 I think) that no one else has.
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| Quote ="PopTart"It doesn't guarantee anything but it gives you a fraction of a point (0.25 I think) that no one else has.'"
Apologies if this is a deft question.
However, if you get 0.25 points for winning a Championship GF, is this more or less than finishing 11th (very optimistic) in SL ?
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Apologies if this is a deft question.
However, if you get 0.25 points for winning a Championship GF, is this more or less than finishing 11th (very optimistic) in SL ?'"
I seem to recall that each and every position in the League table gives you 0.5 extra above those next down. So, bottom of SL gets 0.5 more than top of Championship but the 0.25 reduces the advantage for these two placings only. Aren't these rankings over a three year period though?
There is something for winning that Championship Competition at Wembley as well though to aim for.
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| I think the last time we had Ben @ BV was v Saints when he gave Saints a dodgy golden point DG winner, most fan’s thought Lomax knocked on before kicking the ball over.
Hope he’s more favourable this time around
Wakefield Trinity v Salford Red Devils
30th June, KO: 19:45
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Referee: B. Thaler
Reserve Referee: K. Moore
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"I think the last time we had Ben @ BV was v Saints when he gave Saints a dodgy golden point DG winner, most fan’s thought Lomax knocked on before kicking the ball over.
Hope he’s more favourable this time around
Wakefield Trinity v Salford Red Devils
30th June, KO: 19:45
M Com: D. Milburn
Referee: B. Thaler
Reserve Referee: K. Moore
Touch Judge 1: C. Worsley
Touch Judge 2: M. Craven
In Goal: S. Ellis
In Goal 2: S. Jenkinson
Time Keeper: T. Randerson'"
At least Kendall isn't an official this week
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"I seem to recall that each and every position in the League table gives you 0.5 extra above those next down. So, bottom of SL gets 0.5 more than top of Championship but the 0.25 reduces the advantage for these two placings only. Aren't these rankings over a three year period though?
There is something for winning that Championship Competition at Wembley as well though to aim for.'"
Yes I believe this to be correct which is why that unless the promoted team next season (most likely Featherstone) finish 8th or higher then if we finish top 2 in the championship (which is a big if) we will score more points on this basis
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"I think the last time we had Ben @ BV was v Saints when he gave Saints a dodgy golden point DG winner, most fan’s thought Lomax knocked on before kicking the ball over.
Hope he’s more favourable this time around
Wakefield Trinity v Salford Red Devils
30th June, KO: 19:45
M Com: D. Milburn
Referee: B. Thaler
Reserve Referee: K. Moore
Touch Judge 1: C. Worsley
Touch Judge 2: M. Craven
In Goal: S. Ellis
In Goal 2: S. Jenkinson
Time Keeper: T. Randerson'"
Yep remember the game, most fans did think he knocked it on but when you watch the game back the ref got it right.
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| Quote ="wakeytrin"At least Kendall isn't an official this week'"
Albeit I've seen some terrible calls over the years, is the referee really our worst enemy this year?
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| Quote ="TimmySmith"Albeit I've seen some terrible calls over the years, is the referee really our worst enemy this year?'"
No the referee isn’t. But last week the call to send Fifita for 10 incorrectly effectively put to bed any chance of a comeback with 10 minutes left and 10 behind). It should have been play on and was a the result of play being stopped for a perfectly fine tackle. We were overall the better team at that point too).
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Same as last month or two really. Constantly around 10 unavailable and it’s happened last few years.
Also can add Salabio to that as unavailable. Almost a full starting 13.
Injury hit Salford have 3/4 out though
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Same as last month or two really. Constantly around 10 unavailable and it’s happened last few years.
Also can add Salabio to that as unavailable. Almost a full starting 13.
Injury hit Salford have 3/4 out though
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Hewitt isn’t injured, he’s been recalled by Huddersfield.
Still quite the injury list but i reckon there’s also 5 of Salfords starting 13 missing so the game is still very much winnable.
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Hewitt isn’t injured, he’s been recalled by Huddersfield.
Still quite the injury list but i reckon there’s also 5 of Salfords starting 13 missing so the game is still very much winnable.
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Who were the 12 players returning that Mash referenced?
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Who were the 12 players returning that Mash referenced?
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Hewitt isn’t injured, he’s been recalled by Huddersfield.
Still quite the injury list but i reckon there’s also 5 of Salfords starting 13 missing so the game is still very much winnable.'"
I agree
It's as good a chance as we are going to get and to have any chance of survival (I know that this is very unlikely), we need to win this type of game, especially at home.
The fans can help too. Get there in good number and give the boys some support.
IF we could scrape a win on Friday and maybe v Shudds in a couple of weeks, Cas at home would become a huge game, absolutely huge.
Anyway, one game at a time and lets hope the boys can get over the line on Friday.
On a different note, why the hell is Lineham in the squad ?
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| One of first jobs for the new owner is to replace all our physio, medical and sports science people. They are obviously not fit for purpose. We need a much tougher regime. get rid of all this player welfare nonsense. Injured players should have to work an 8 hour day at the ground cleaning bathrooms, painting walls, litter picking, sweeping up etc. The goal should be to get players back on the field asap, it seems now that players are taking the michael and our warm heated soft medical team are falling for it. Players are commodities and we are simply not getting maximum usage out of them. The tail is been allowed to wag the dog
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"On a different note, why the hell is Lineham in the squad ?'"
I would guess there are 2 things:
1. We have no other players left to pick.
2. If we want to sell him, we need him in the shop window!
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| Quote ="dboy"
2. If we want to sell him, we need him in the shop window!'"
I'm not sure other clubs seeing him perform is going to help that.
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"One of first jobs for the new owner is to replace all our physio, medical and sports science people. They are obviously not fit for purpose. We need a much tougher regime. get rid of all this player welfare nonsense. Injured players should have to work an 8 hour day at the ground cleaning bathrooms, painting walls, litter picking, sweeping up etc. The goal should be to get players back on the field asap, it seems now that players are taking the michael and our warm heated soft medical team are falling for it. Players are commodities and we are simply not getting maximum usage out of them. The tail is been allowed to wag the dog'"
1. You think we have sports science people?
2. You may not see the value of player welfare but the players will and we'll lose players without it.
3. Player with acl injury working 8 hour day? That'll get him fit
Glad you are not in charge Belly
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| We had a coach a little while ago who came in and cracked the whip , we all know how that turned out . There has to be a balance obviously,and I’d like to think players are wanting to get out on the field and play for our club and not malingering whilst obviously being looked after both mentally and physically by the club .Long term or troublesome injuries can have such a detrimental effect on the person affected in any sport or walk of life for that matter ,and thank goodness the mindset has changed over the years to player welfare ,as players have a long way to go after their playing days are behind them ,and As a sport we have systems in place to help player who are struggling in these areas .
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| Will be interested to see how Lyne gets on, hes been out a while and taken some flack in regards to recent performances (most of which deserved) and the rumour about a move back to Hull next year. Hoping he comes back with a point to prove
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| Quote ="PopTart"1. You think we have sports science people?
2. You may not see the value of player welfare but the players will and we'll lose players without it.
3. Player with acl injury working 8 hour day? That'll get him fit
Glad you are not in charge Belly'"
Yes because the system that has been in operation for last few years has had such beneficial effects on player performance etc. Nothing to stop player with ACL injury been made to work at the club. We have a squad containing a number of lazy malingerers who stink the place out.
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| Tough game to call. Going to go with 14-10 to Trinity
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| Quote ="Dr Dreadnought"Tough game to call. Going to go with 14-10 to Trinity'"
I love your optimism .
I’m more of a realist - 30-6 to Salford and I hope I choke on my prediction!
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| Cannot be bothered with these Friday night games I won't be going it's a joke just a couple of games on a Sunday. I used to go to all away games don't bother much anymore and it's going the same way for home games on a Friday. I got the grandsons tickets but Fridays are out one plays football so has been lost to rugby the younger one at 4 just cannot last the pace and now wants to play football so probably 2 future fans of the sport lost now along with me. Commit 6 will see me do next season and should we go down other than the odd Monday it should go back to Sunday's happy days.
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