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| Quote ="Pat Bateman"Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"Hoping we're not looking at both Proctor & Taylor, one maybe, but not both. Both are quality.
Anthony Tupou was quality, but sadly was way passed it, and really struggled.
Neither would come cheap, and given we're on a tight budget, I think it would be a huge gamble.
Whitbread has been a perfect example if bringing someone in who have their best years ahead of them.
We already have Ashurst, Pitts, Battye and Bowden who will be 30+ come the end of next year, a very ageing pack, and we may have Eseh, O'Donovan, Shaw and Windrow, but honestly, how much exposure are they going to get in the first team next year'"
I saw Taylor play the Kiwis the other week and was the best player for Leeds by a country mile. His defence is another planet. I’d be thrilled if we signed Taylor.'" Quote ="vastman"Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"Hoping we're not looking at both Proctor & Taylor, one maybe, but not both. Both are quality.
Anthony Tupou was quality, but sadly was way passed it, and really struggled.
Neither would come cheap, and given we're on a tight budget, I think it would be a huge gamble.
Whitbread has been a perfect example if bringing someone in who have their best years ahead of them.
We already have Ashurst, Pitts, Battye and Bowden who will be 30+ come the end of next year, a very ageing pack, and we may have Eseh, O'Donovan, Shaw and Windrow, but honestly, how much exposure are they going to get in the first team next year'"
I don't see an issue or how it's any more of a gamble than any other relatively well known Aussie. Proctor is in a different class to all the players you mention, better IMO than Taylor. You need some big match experience and at present we have very little.
You don't have to have a player with the X factor but it can often make a huge difference.
Anthony Tupou was never on, his injuries were more akin to a road accident than a sports injury. The thing with Proctor is injury wise, and I don't want to jinx anyone, he's been pretty much bullet proof. Certainly nothing persistent.
So attitude is IMHO the only real issue and to me that's been somewhat overstated. Many on here were advocating Hardaker not long back, well Proctor is an absolute gent by comparison.'"
All I'm saying is take one, if we do, not both.
If our cap spend is, like you mentioned the other day is around £1.3m, what portion of this would Proctor be on?
He wouldn't come cheap, and neither would Taylor
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"All I'm saying is take one, if we do, not both.
If our cap spend is, like you mentioned the other day is around £1.3m, what portion of this would Proctor be on?
He wouldn't come cheap, and neither would Taylor'"
With you, then either would be fine, yes two may be a bit costly. Though TBF they are different kinds of players and would compliment each other.
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"All I'm saying is take one, if we do, not both.
If our cap spend is, like you mentioned the other day is around £1.3m, what portion of this would Proctor be on?
He wouldn't come cheap, and neither would Taylor'"
No 100%, you did say both are quality. If we are pushing the boat out I’d love Taylor!
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| If his attitude is right, Proctor is a good buy. There have been some questions marks about his off-field behaviour in recent years, but perhaps when you're at one club for a long time, one that perhaps doesn't demand high standards, mistakes happen. I'm not sure his on-field performance has dipped particlarly.
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| The question is if we are signing Proctor then is he coming over to contribute and with the correct attitude or just the money. I wonder if the Titans were looking for a reason to end his contract because what he did is pretty minor compared to others. This then begs the question why but we will see.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"The question is if we are signing Proctor then is he coming over to contribute and with the correct attitude or just the money. I wonder if the Titans were looking for a reason to end his contract because what he did is pretty minor compared to others. This then begs the question why but we will see.'"
That applies to every player,
It doesn't beg any questions really. At 34 he's got some SL left in him. In the NRL he's a drain on the cap. If we are lucky they might even be paying part of his wages.
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I did mention it on the 26th July and started a thread. Not been on here of late due to certain clowns not liking what I've said. I'm sure those clowns will be back to slate me again.
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I did mention it on the 26th July and started a thread. Not been on here of late due to certain clowns not liking what I've said. I'm sure those clowns will be back to slate me again.
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| Quote ="Divdav77"I did mention it on the 26th July and started a thread. Not been on here of late due to certain clowns not liking what I've said. I'm sure those clowns will be back to slate me again.'"
If I recall the only clown was you, and you were rightly slated. You said you were out after Applegarth was appointed - so have you got over your sulk and are back in?
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| Quote ="vastman"That applies to every player,
It doesn't beg any questions really. At 34 he's got some SL left in him. In the NRL he's a drain on the cap. If we are lucky they might even be paying part of his wages.'"
Not every player has been sacked by their club’s and not for what one would consider a minor offence. He will definitely not be a threat to our cap but could be a drain on our perceived limited budget.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Not every player has been sacked by their club’s and not for what one would consider a minor offence. He will definitely not be a threat to our cap but could be a drain on our perceived limited budget.'"
He would, but that's a coaches call. Finite amount of cash means you have a finite number of options. Of the options available to us he's as good a call as many of the others mentioned on here.
Thus I agree that we have to be more prudent and risk averse than most, but likewise we occasionally have to take a flyer otherwise we will never move on.
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| Quote ="vastman"He would, but that's a coaches call. Finite amount of cash means you have a finite number of options. Of the options available to us he's as good a call as many of the others mentioned on here.
Thus I agree that we have to be more prudent and risk averse than most, but likewise we occasionally have to take a flyer otherwise we will never move on.'"
Similarities with Joe Leilua this time last year? Some said we should have been in for him others said stay well clear. IMHO we got that one right and, as a biproduct, unearthed a gem in Corey Hall. Fingers crossed again.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Similarities with Joe Leilua this time last year? Some said we should have been in for him others said stay well clear. IMHO we got that one right and, as a biproduct, unearthed a gem in Corey Hall. Fingers crossed again.'"
Yup, they work both ways.
It's a game powered by hindsight. You have a coach in the hope that he can reduce the hindsight factor as much as possible, but it's still there. Not even Wayne Bennett would claim to have got every signing right.
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| Quote ="vastman"If I recall the only clown was you, and you were rightly slated. You said you were out after Applegarth was appointed - so have you got over your sulk and are back in?'"
Vastman you the king of clowns another bullying episode
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| Quote ="cosmicat"Vastman you the king of clowns another bullying episode'"
If you say so.
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Well it can't be that reputable, Trinity and lucrative in one sentence?
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Well it can't be that reputable, Trinity and lucrative in one sentence?
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| Quote ="vastman"If I recall the only clown was you, and you were rightly slated. You said you were out after Applegarth was appointed - so have you got over your sulk and are back in?'"
Not really back in at all, ive got a life not just trolling on here. I've ordered you a big red nose and big floppy feet for Xmas (not that you need them) you obviously knew who I meant. You were the one sulking along with a couple of hangers on with your remarks, because you don't like people stating their objections if it's not what you want to hear.
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| A quality player a straight running hard working forward. Not sure he's the player he was and we're signing another Anthony Tumour. I wish him well and I'll back him and hope he's a success.
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| Cracking signing , and before all the knockers rally to the call , let’s see him once he’s settled in before baying for his scalp . If he’s not played much recently he should be fighting fit and after a good pre season at the club he should hopefully hit the ground running and give us that fire power up front that we have lost from last season
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| Well, another old man with big reputation, lucrative money deal, we never learn, he simply cannot match & play as high energy 40 minutes
If he could he would still be staying in OZ ! I hope I am wrong but, even Ray Price found out, you loose energy at that age, he'll even saints & Wigan understand this issue !!!!
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| Quote ="TrinTrin"Well, another old man with big reputation, lucrative money deal, we never learn, he simply cannot match & play as high energy 40 minutes
If he could he would still be staying in OZ ! I hope I am wrong but, even Ray Price found out, you loose energy at that age, he'll even saints & Wigan understand this issue !!!!'"
You don't think Ray Price was a good signing? Hmmm
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| Quote ="TrinTrin"Well, another old man with big reputation, lucrative money deal, we never learn, he simply cannot match & play as high energy 40 minutes
If he could he would still be staying in OZ ! I hope I am wrong but, even Ray Price found out, you loose energy at that age, he'll even saints & Wigan understand this issue !!!!'"
Hmmm saints with Roby, LMS, Lomax and Walmsley all above 32.
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| Quote ="TrinTrin"Well, another old man with big reputation, lucrative money deal, we never learn, he simply cannot match & play as high energy 40 minutes
If he could he would still be staying in OZ ! I hope I am wrong but, even Ray Price found out, you loose energy at that age, he'll even saints & Wigan understand this issue !!!!'"
Sadly Ray has advanced skin cancer , but born in 53 he played for us in 89 -90 so was 36 /37 and had actually retired for two seasons before he came to trinity
We’d been amazed if we’d signed Andrew fafita and he’s similar age abd a dam sight fitter
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| Quote ="TrinTrin"Well, another old man with big reputation, lucrative money deal, we never learn, he simply cannot match & play as high energy 40 minutes
If he could he would still be staying in OZ ! I hope I am wrong but, even Ray Price found out, you loose energy at that age, he'll even saints & Wigan understand this issue !!!!'"
Ray price was quality for us
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| Quote ="Luppylad"Ray price was quality for us'"
Indeed. TrinTrin clearly didn't see him play.
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