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| At the great risk of embarrassing myself by my naivete but as the proposed Newmarket ground is a community stadium for the benefit of 330,000 people, is it eligible for partial funding from the Lottery once the 60,000sqm criteria has been met.??
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| Quote ="Sandal Cat"Hope you mean 16,000 m2'"
I do!
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| Quote ="Redscat"At the great risk of embarrassing myself by my naivete but as the proposed Newmarket ground is a community stadium for the benefit of 330,000 people, is it eligible for partial funding from the Lottery once the 60,000sqm criteria has been met.??'"
There's lots of funding channels which can bring in some money, the lottery probably being one of them. The issue is that all of these gunning streams won't offer anywhere near enough to fully fund a stadium so we need to have the developer hit the Sq.m first. Funding applications are also much more likely to be successful if the development is ready to go instead of asking for funding for a project which may/may not happen
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| Thanks for that Egg Banjo. I was thinking more in terms subsidising all or part of the £2,000,000 should WMDC renege in any way.
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| Quote ="Redscat"Thanks for that Egg Banjo. I was thinking more in terms subsidising all or part of the £2,000,000 should WMDC renege in any way.'"
Funding streams are quickly drying up which could become a problem. Lots of European funding will disappear over the next couple of years and they ringfenced quite a bit of money for communities. We'd need to get smart about what we offer to maximise funding streams available. We'd need to provide multiple education opportunities for young people, community sports and community activities such as dementia cafes and walking football, a rugby league museum (or at least a local area museum) and arts facilities/installations to access Arts funding. The money is out there, but the trust will really need to diversify what we have available in the stadium to maximise other funding
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"About 16'000sqft?
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The actual plan of the H B Clark site, which has been re drawn because it impinged on the area listed for the Community Stadium i have been told is 170,000 sq.ft. which equates to 15,790 sq.mtres. Whether or not all this planned site is "B8 Warehousing and Distribution space" as required towards the trigger point i can't say for definite. Looking at the requirements of what Clarks need i would imagine the majority of it is, but until the plans are in the public domain who can say for sure.
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| So in rounded down to the 000Sqm figures
Newcold One - 22,000Sqm
Newcold 2 - 23,000Sqm
HB Clark - 15,000qm
TOTAL - 60,000Sqm (rounded down)
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| Quote ="The Avenger"So in rounded down to the 000Sqm figures
Newcold One - 22,000Sqm
Newcold 2 - 23,000Sqm
HB Clark - 15,000qm
TOTAL - 60,000Sqm (rounded down)'"
If only that were so.
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| Quote ="TRB"If only that were so.'"
"Make it so Mr Sulu"
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| I thought only one part of newcold had been agreed to count?
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| Quote ="TRB"If only that were so.'"
It seems to be so or have I misread the Council statement that the existing Newcold building will now contribute and the new building for which i'm told ground works are currently being prepared Will also count. If The Clarks Brewery building is as big as suggested then surely it will get us to the 60,000 m² tipping point
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| Quote ="TRB"If only that were so.'"
You don't seem to share our optimism that this is what will actually happen?
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| Quote ="The Avenger"It seems to be so or have I misread the Council statement that the existing Newcold building will now contribute and the new building for which i'm told ground works are currently being prepared Will also count. If The Clarks Brewery building is as big as suggested then surely it will get us to the 60,000 m² tipping point'"
Just as a point of note the total floor space for the Newcold build as quoted in their own plans is 38,797sqm. So if the figure for Clarks above is correct then we would still be over 5000sqm short.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Just as a point of note the total floor space for the Newcold build as quoted in their own plans is 38,797sqm. So if the figure for Clarks above is correct then we would still be over 5000sqm short.'"
OK I stand corrected.
I was lead to believe that the first Newcold building was around 22,500m² and the second one was slightly bigger
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| Quote ="KevW60349"The actual plan of the H B Clark site, which has been re drawn because it impinged on the area listed for the Community Stadium i have been told is 170,000 sq.ft. which equates to 15,790 sq.mtres. Whether or not all this planned site is "B8 Warehousing and Distribution space" as required towards the trigger point i can't say for definite. Looking at the requirements of what Clarks need i would imagine the majority of it is, but until the plans are in the public domain who can say for sure.'"
Don't suppose you'd have chance to get any evidence of this? Especially that it impinged on the stadium footprint. Could be very useful
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Just as a point of note the total floor space for the Newcold build as quoted in their own plans is 38,797sqm. So if the figure for Clarks above is correct then we would still be over 5000sqm short.'"
The planning application says 38,764 m2 so they are pretty close.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"OK I stand corrected.
I was lead to believe that the first Newcold building was around 22,500m² and the second one was slightly bigger'"
I would have to agree with you. I seem to remember reading when the 1st stage was opened that it was 50% complete so I assumed the 2nd stage would be the same size. Didn't seem to have any significance at the time as it looked as if neither would count to the trigger point.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Just as a point of note the total floor space for the Newcold build as quoted in their own plans is 38,797sqm. So if the figure for Clarks above is correct then we would still be over 5000sqm short.'"
This is what I was referring to!
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| Quote ="Daddycool"Don't suppose you'd have chance to get any evidence of this? Especially that it impinged on the stadium footprint. Could be very useful'"
Daddycool, i have no evidence myself, only the word of the person who gave me the information. I have no reason to doubt what he has told me. I will try and find out from him anything further that may be of help.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Just as a point of note the total floor space for the Newcold build as quoted in their own plans is 38,797sqm. So if the figure for Clarks above is correct then we would still be over 5000sqm short.'"
Does anyone know what a building of 5,000sqm looks like? If you divide the Newcold by five it wouldn't be a particularly big build.
Some people have suggested Yorkcourt would hold back a little to avoid the 60,000 trigger, wouldn't that be a very dangerous game to play? Assuming Yorkcourt stopped at 59,000 Sqm, then there was evidence to suggest that a business had been refused the chance to build on Newmarket, how would they stand legally?
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| Quote ="JINJER"Does anyone know what a building of 5,000sqm looks like? If you divide the Newcold by five it wouldn't be a particularly big build.
Some people have suggested Yorkcourt would hold back a little to avoid the 60,000 trigger, wouldn't that be a very dangerous game to play? Assuming Yorkcourt stopped at 59,000 Sqm, then there was evidence to suggest that a business had been refused the chance to build on Newmarket, how would they stand legally?'"
Legally, as things stand, there is nowt we can do! It's all about the new agreement and the terms therein!
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| Quote ="TRB"Legally, as things stand, there is nowt we can do! It's all about the new agreement and the terms therein!'"
Have they set a date for a meeting yet?
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Quote ="JINJER"Does anyone know what a building of 5,000sqm looks like?'"
5000sqm is not big, it's 100m x 50m, which is just a bit smaller than the dimensions for a rugby pitch specified on the RFL website:
www.rugby-league.com/the_rfl/rul ... ying_field
Indoor training area, anyone?
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Quote ="JINJER"Does anyone know what a building of 5,000sqm looks like?'"
5000sqm is not big, it's 100m x 50m, which is just a bit smaller than the dimensions for a rugby pitch specified on the RFL website:
www.rugby-league.com/the_rfl/rul ... ying_field
Indoor training area, anyone?
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With delivery bays and storage areas.
There was supposed to be a indoor sports pitch as part of the facilities on offer at NM. Not sure if this is still the case.
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With delivery bays and storage areas.
There was supposed to be a indoor sports pitch as part of the facilities on offer at NM. Not sure if this is still the case.
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And that's where I was going, if the trigger was just short, what would there be to stop the club buying and developing the shortfall, and pushing the overall development over 60,000?
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And that's where I was going, if the trigger was just short, what would there be to stop the club buying and developing the shortfall, and pushing the overall development over 60,000?
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