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| Quote ="asmadasa"Let's not bag a Trinity player who is not in the 17.
He has some fantastic skill and pace which he has proven over the last few years elsewhere and it's great that he is wearing the red white and blue. Hope we can fit him in the 17 when Webster decides the time is ready.'"
Again what pace and skill - I know he's got it or had it but i haven't seen it with us even if you have. Let's be clear about this Aussie players have far more pressure and expectation on their shoulders and rightly so. They are highly paid and take British players jobs which is fine but they must deliver - no excuses in their case - that's the price they pay. And I don't care how bad the team has been he has nowhere near justified his place at the club (as an import). So thanks but I will bag him because he has been poor, should he be fortunate enough to get another chance to play for this great club I hope he proves me wrong.
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| Quote ="Mr Bliss"Could Sykes play centre and let him play alongside Tim Smith and stick Sammut at stand off to create something on the other side???????'"
Of course he could but, why would Webster do that when Sykes and Smith are going so well in the halves.
It's a no brainer.
In the same way that it was wrong to move half the team around to accommodate Seyjka, it would be wrong to "find a spot" for Sammut, just so that he is in the ream.
IF he is the best choice for any position, then play him there but, if not, don't select him, similar to putting Mathers on the wing, which was also a poor decision, by Agar.
Let's cut Webster some slack.
Sunday was the first time since the London away fixture, that we looked like a half decent SL team.
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| Am I missing something?
Where does it say officially Sammutt has gone to Fev on loan?
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| Quote ="senoj"He hasn't been performing, end of.'" He wasn't played in his position by the now departed plank!!
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| I honestly don't know why the club should make any statement about Jarrod Sammutt until there is something concrete to report. A player not being selected doesn't need a press release.
With the team winning two games it is difficult to get back into contention unless someone gets injured or plays woeful. I have been there myself. It's gutting to be fair & you do consider yourself unlucky. You just have to bide your time & show patience, good attitude & work ethic in training. Without an A Team in Rugby League which I think is scandalous players have to keep fit somehow. If Jaz does go on duel reg then that's more to do with rugby leagues structures than any ill treatment, conspiracy theories or fall outs!!
Jarrod tweeted a nice tweet in support of the win against Wigan and in support of his team mates!! He hasn't set the team on fire, he does have natural talent & an abundance of skill and still has plenty to offer.
If Jarod does go play duel reg and then does force his way back into our side I'd be extremely pleased. It sets a tremendous precedent to all the team!
I just wish people wouldn't make up things or look for negativity. There's enough everywhere you look without attempting to engineer more.....
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| Quote ="vastman"Again what pace and skill - I know he's got it or had it but i haven't seen it even if you have. Let's be clear about this Aussie players rightly have far more pressure and expectation on their shoulders and rightly so. They are highly paid and take British players jobs which is fine but they must deliver - no excuses in there case - that's the price they pay. And don't care the how bad the team has been he has nowhere near justified his place at the club. So thank but I will bag him because he has been poor, should he be fortunate enough to get another chance to play for this great club I hope he proves me wrong.'"
He's shown a lot more at full back than Mathers IMO (last game aside)
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| Sammut left Bradford for reasons other than a desire to play for Trinity but to ensure his own financial future. Hard to blame him, given that his entire UK career has been dogged by financial issues of his employer. But did he bring any desire with him? As far as I can see, no.
Personally, I think he has X-factor which is best used at full back, as he has anonymous days too, the impact of which is felt less keenly when he isn't a half-back. But nothing he has done in a Wakefield shirt merits his inclusion, and if there are other issues surrounding Webster's preference for not playing him, then all power to JW's elbow.
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| Under Agar the team did not have any structure in either defence or attack and there was no leadership or drive on the pitch. there was zero organisation. A happy Mathers at full back brings organisation and leadership. He also manages the players infront of him so that we keep our structure. He chimes into the line perfectly because he understands what Tim Smith is doing, he makes sure we stick to the game plan. Sammut has many many qualities as a RL player but as yet I would say that organisation, leadership etc are not at the top of his skills list. The team needed the skill set that Mathers has because under Agar these qualities have been allowed to dwindle.
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| Quote ="Mick Amos 9 WTW"I honestly don't know why the club should make any statement about Jarrod Sammutt until there is something concrete to report. A player not being selected doesn't need a press release.
With the team winning two games it is difficult to get back into contention unless someone gets injured or plays woeful. I have been there myself. It's gutting to be fair & you do consider yourself unlucky. You just have to bide your time & show patience, good attitude & work ethic in training. Without an A Team in Rugby League which I think is scandalous players have to keep fit somehow. If Jaz does go on duel reg then that's more to do with rugby leagues structures than any ill treatment, conspiracy theories or fall outs!!
Jarrod tweeted a nice tweet in support of the win against Wigan and in support of his team mates!! He hasn't set the team on fire, he does have natural talent & an abundance of skill and still has plenty to offer.
If Jarod does go play duel reg and then does force his way back into our side I'd be extremely pleased. It sets a tremendous precedent to all the team!
I just wish people wouldn't make up things or look for negativity. There's enough everywhere you look without attempting to engineer more.....'"
Couldn't have put it better myself Mick.
If he does go out on dual reg then so be it.
If he comes back with a better attitude & wanting to play for WTW then even better!
Now........who fancies a 7 game winning streak??!!!!
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"He's shown a lot more at full back than Mathers IMO (last game aside)'"
Sorry but no he hasn't, you may think you've seen it but I know I have not. Sammuts best two games were against weak opposition at S/O. At FB he has shown nothing. For all Mathers faults he was playing well at FB until his inexplicable move to the wing and now on his return is playing well.
Sammut has frankly been poor at FB in my opinion, a position incidentally he knows well. Sammut is a great little player on his day but I'm yet to see him take and dominate a game in a Trinity shirt.
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Quote ="charlie63wildcat"He wasn't played in his position by the now departed plank!!'"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jarrod_Sammut
He's right - your wrong - he has often played FB in the past, sure you don't want to revise your plank statement?
Even if what you were saying is true a player of his undoubted ability should be able to make a better fist of it IMHO.
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jarrod_Sammut
He's right - your wrong - he has often played FB in the past, sure you don't want to revise your plank statement?
Even if what you were saying is true a player of his undoubted ability should be able to make a better fist of it IMHO.
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| Quote ="vastman"Sorry but no he hasn't, you may think you've seen it but I know I have not. Sammuts best two games were against weak opposition at S/O. At FB he has shown nothing. For all Mathers faults he was playing well at FB until his inexplicable move to the wing and now on his return is playing well.
Sammut has frankly been poor at FB in my opinion, a position incidentally he knows well. Sammut is a great little player on his day but I'm yet to see him take and dominate a game in a Trinity shirt.'"
I disagree, Mathers has been playing an awful brand all season. I'll admit that Sammut hardly set the world alight at fullback, but he's better in both attack and defence than Richie and he's younger.
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"I disagree, Mathers has been playing an awful brand all season. I'll admit that Sammut hardly set the world alight at fullback, but he's better in both attack and defence than Richie and he's younger.'"
Potentially he is way better than Mathers, but until he turns it into performance I'll go with Mathers who average though he is was not to blame for being dumped on the wing.
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"I disagree, Mathers has been playing an awful brand all season. I'll admit that Sammut hardly set the world alight at fullback, but he's better in both attack and defence than Richie and he's younger.'"
Saying Sammut is better than Mathers in defence, is akin to saying Pol Pot was better at poker than Robert Mugabe, its missing the point really.
They are both poor in defence, i didn't go to Odsal but i heard Sammut was absolutely awful if not gutless, things that have both been levelled at Mathers.
In attack i have yet to see Sammut taring the place up, so for now i'll have to stick my neck out for Mathers.
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| Quote ="vastman"Potentially he is way better than Mathers, but until he turns it into performance I'll go with Mathers who average though he is was not to blame for being dumped on the wing.'"
Sammut is a maverick - supporting the line off the back of some of Smiths plays would be fantastic to watch and exciting. He has the skills off the back of this to break the line or make a pass. I dont believe Mathers has this ability. I have seen many times when Mathers has stopped the attacking play when supporting as the full back due to his lack of skills base.
Now not every teams has this luxury in there side and a few weeks ago neither did we BUT we have a talented player not even being selected now and where not 100% sure why this is the case ?
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| Quote ="Jose Mourinho"Sammut is a maverick - supporting the line off the back of some of Smiths plays would be fantastic to watch and exciting. He has the skills off the back of this to break the line or make a pass. I dont believe Mathers has this ability. I have seen many times when Mathers has stopped the attacking play when supporting as the full back due to his lack of skills base.
Now not every teams has this luxury in there side and a few weeks ago neither did we BUT we have a talented player not even being selected now and where not 100% sure why this is the case ?'"
Why do you think you should be?
As a taxpayer i am not a 100% certain where my tax is spent, and I'm sure i wouldn't agree with everything i did, do i have recourse? of course not.
Accept there are things that you don't have any god given right to know and you'll be much more content.
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| Not sure why we are still on this Jose.
Surely the coach decides who is in his team. We never had a public announcement for any of the other players in the squad who are available but not playing.
Why change now?
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| Quote ="Mary Millington"Couldn't have put it better myself Mick.
If he does go out on dual reg then so be it.
If he comes back with a better attitude & wanting to play for WTW then even better!
Now........who fancies a 7 game winning streak??!!!!'"
Go on then if your forcing me Mary. Another 5 wins on the bounce sounds alright. But if we don't Webster out Amos in
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| Quote ="Jose Mourinho"Sammut is a maverick - supporting the line off the back of some of Smiths plays would be fantastic to watch and exciting. He has the skills off the back of this to break the line or make a pass. I dont believe Mathers has this ability. I have seen many times when Mathers has stopped the attacking play when supporting as the full back due to his lack of skills base.
Now not every teams has this luxury in there side and a few weeks ago neither did we BUT we have a talented player not even being selected now and where not 100% sure why this is the case ?'"
Weird how we see different things.
I've always thought that Mathers adds most value when he joins the line - he knows where to be and can put in a decent pass; I've seen him do it fairly consistently.
As for the maverick stuff - I don't think we're ready for that just now; we appear to be clicking again with Smith back and for me, that needs to bed in for a while before we start throwing in an X factor.
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| Quote ="Jose Mourinho"Sammut is a maverick - supporting the line off the back of some of Smiths plays would be fantastic to watch and exciting. He has the skills off the back of this to break the line or make a pass. I dont believe Mathers has this ability. I have seen many times when Mathers has stopped the attacking play when supporting as the full back due to his lack of skills base.
Now not every teams has this luxury in there side and a few weeks ago neither did we BUT we have a talented player not even being selected now and where not 100% sure why this is the case ?'"
Are you Sammutt's agent?
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| I agree with you there Bren.
Along with organising the defensive line,Mather's other main attribute is making the extra three quarter in attack.
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| Hmmmm...so Sammut and Siejka are going to start ripping up the Championship with Fev are they ????
I hope for their's and Fev's sakes that they do and come back better players !!!
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| I think Fev will be looking to build a team with them ready for promotion.
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"Under Agar the team did not have any structure in either defence or attack and there was no leadership or drive on the pitch. there was zero organisation. A happy Mathers at full back brings organisation and leadership. He also manages the players infront of him so that we keep our structure. He chimes into the line perfectly because he understands what Tim Smith is doing, he makes sure we stick to the game plan. Sammut has many many qualities as a RL player but as yet I would say that organisation, leadership etc are not at the top of his skills list. The team needed the skill set that Mathers has because under Agar these qualities have been allowed to dwindle.'"
Spot on.
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