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| Anyone questioning the ability of Collis after tonight needs to reconsider what sport they're watching. You could tell he was class last season but now he's proving it.
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| Different class tonight, get that contract extended now!
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"Anyone questioning the ability of Collis after tonight needs to reconsider what sport they're watching. You could tell he was class last season but now he's proving it.'"
Tbh it's hard to get my head around anyone who says they haven't noticed him much, he's got the skills to pay the bills.
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| it will be hard to push him out of this position for our young ones coming through, Cowling and Walshaw look good but at this moment but Dean is making his new contract look like a must.
I was disappointed when Millard left as I thought we hadn't seen the best of him but Collis is just class
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| Who said he didn't have an offload game?
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| As previous posters have said, definitely the best centre in years. For me he just get's better every week, looks very classy and that offload pass to Fox he has in his locker, absolutely awesome! It's a no brainer, get him signed.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Who said he didn't have an offload game?
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Was a nice little offload to put foxy in for his first - but we have seen precious little of that sort of thing before. Collis again was fantastic and we look dangerous everytime we get the ball to him, but i stand by my stance. After all, danny kirkmond put boot to ball in the first half and it wasn't the worst kick in the world but you wouldn't argue that he has an effective kicking game would you?
Well played dean, man of the match for me.
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| Hope we can get him signed up one of our better overseas signings over the years the best centre we have had in years
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| Has been terrorizing opposition centres all year, gets better with every game, need to get him signed up for the long term ASAP.
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| Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"Was a nice little offload to put foxy in for his first - but we have seen precious little of that sort of thing before. Collis again was fantastic and we look dangerous everytime we get the ball to him, but i stand by my stance. After all, danny kirkmond put boot to ball in the first half and it wasn't the worst kick in the world but you wouldn't argue that he has an effective kicking game would you?
Well played dean, man of the match for me.'"
Have you spent the last 18 months with your back to the game??
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| Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"Was a nice little offload to put foxy in for his first - but we have seen precious little of that sort of thing before. Collis again was fantastic and we look dangerous everytime we get the ball to him, but i stand by my stance. After all, danny kirkmond put boot to ball in the first half and it wasn't the worst kick in the world but you wouldn't argue that he has an effective kicking game would you?
Well played dean, man of the match for me.'"
Jeez, you're a hard man to please!
I started to feel a bit sorry for his opposite number last night - he absolutely terrorised him.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Who said he didn't have an offload game?
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One of the many self appointed experts who post on here.
Of course they will all now be giving their trite humble pie apologies on some thread or other - they never learn.
Why fans don't concentrate on the positives and just enjoy the wins when they come is beyond me - let the coach worry about the rest.
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| Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"Was a nice little offload to put foxy in for his first - but we have seen precious little of that sort of thing before. Collis again was fantastic and we look dangerous everytime we get the ball to him, but i stand by my stance. After all, danny kirkmond put boot to ball in the first half and it wasn't the worst kick in the world but you wouldn't argue that he has an effective kicking game would you?
Well played dean, man of the match for me.'"
... and one appears right on time. Give it a rest you're clearly no Wayne Bennett or even Mrs Bennett for that matter.
Leave it to me and Richard, we know what we are doing
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| Quote ="Theboyem"Have you spent the last 18 months with your back to the game??'"
Nope. What makes you think that?
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| Quote ="vastman"One of the many self appointed experts who post on here.
Of course they will all now be giving their trite humble pie apologies on some thread or other - they never learn.
Why fans don't concentrate on the positives and just enjoy the wins when they come is beyond me - let the coach worry about the rest.'"
If you are referring to me, maybe you missed:
Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"Collis was again was fantastic.'"
Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers" we look dangerous everytime we get the ball to him'"
Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"
Well played dean, man of the match for me.'"
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| Quote ="vastman"... and one appears right on time. Give it a rest you're clearly no Wayne Bennett or even Mrs Bennett for that matter.
Leave it to me and Richard, we know what we are doing
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If you (or anybody else for that matter) think Collis has an effective offload game, then I can live with that. If you think that 1 lovely offload last night makes that true then again, I can live with that.
Personally, I wouldn't say that we have seen enough yet to suggest that Collis has an effective offload game - I hope he proves me wrong and he slips a few more of those for Foxy in the coming weeks.
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| Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"If you (or anybody else for that matter) think Collis has an effective offload game, then I can live with that. If you think that 1 lovely offload last night makes that true then again, I can live with that.
Personally, I wouldn't say that we have seen enough yet to suggest that Collis has an effective offload game - I hope he proves me wrong and he slips a few more of those for Foxy in the coming weeks.'"
Best player on the pitch by far yesterday and he should be in the exiles squad, as should Aiton and Tim Smith. Anybody that fully appreciates the games he has played in this season can recognise this.
He needs signing on a long term deal if Wakefield are going to continue to progress (from Agar's comments I think they will be working on that). Agar also needs to be signed up on a longer deal aswell.
We've got some good overseas players in Dean Collis, Ali Lauitiiti, Tim Smith, Paul Aiton and Justin Poore and they need to be retained.
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| Quote ="asmadasa"d040.gif Best player on the pitch by far yesterday and he should be in the exiles squad, as should Aiton and Tim Smith. Anybody that fully appreciates the games he has played in this season can recognise this.
He needs signing on a long term deal if Wakefield are going to continue to progress (from Agar's comments I think they will be working on that). Agar also needs to be signed up on a longer deal aswell.
We've got some good overseas players in Dean Collis, Ali Lauitiiti, Tim Smith, Paul Aiton and Justin Poore and they need to be retained.'"
Why ?
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| Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"Why
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Just looked it up and we've got him for another 2 seasons anyway so if he stays fit he'll continue to get his plaudits week in and week out for Wakefield regardless of sceptics. He's only 27.
I admit last season he used to go missing but think that was something to do with injuries. This season he's been very good and a real handful for the opposition creating tries for Fox and Aiton yesterday.
We've got a good team we just need a bit more consistency and keep our defence tight.
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| Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"Nope. What makes you think that?'"
Mainly due to the plentiful amount of tries he's created for Fox since he arrived. still if you want to ignore that thats up to you.
Your not one of those who thought Tim Smith was a terrible signing as well are you?
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| Quote ="Theboyem"Mainly due to the plentiful amount of tries he's created for Fox since he arrived. still if you want to ignore that thats up to you.
Your not one of those who thought Tim Smith was a terrible signing as well are you?'"
What makes you think I am ignoring the tries he has created for Foxy? I have noticed the space and time created by Collis for Fox on several occasions, I have noticed the significant contribution he makes to our attack and I have also noticed the fantastic service he has given Fox most weeks.
What's Tim Smith got to do with the price of fish?
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| Quote ="asmadasa"Just looked it up and we've got him for another 2 seasons anyway so if he stays fit he'll continue to get his plaudits week in and week out for Wakefield regardless of sceptics. He's only 27.
I admit last season he used to go missing but think that was something to do with injuries. This season he's been very good and a real handful for the opposition creating tries for Fox and Aiton yesterday.
We've got a good team we just need a bit more consistency and keep our defence tight.'"
So what's your beef with my post?
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| Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"What makes you think I am ignoring the tries he has created for Foxy? I have noticed the space and time created by Collis for Fox on several occasions, I have noticed the significant contribution he makes to our attack and I have also noticed the fantastic service he has given Fox most weeks.
What's Tim Smith got to do with the price of fish?'"
'But we have seen precious little of that sort of thing before'. Your line not mine. When to anybody watching its quite obvious we have seen it many times before as you have just admitted. Fox has scored nearly 30 tries in a season and a half, many of which have been created by Collis' flicks, offloads and passes. If anything he is creating more even more space this season as he is now fully fit and as such it is more apparent but he did it plenty last year as well.
As for Smith there was some bagging his signing last year, just wanted to check that you weren't one and knew something about the game!
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| Quote ="Theboyem"'But we have seen precious little of that sort of thing before'. Your line not mine. When to anybody watching its quite obvious we have seen it many times before as you have just admitted. Fox has scored nearly 30 tries in a season and a half, many of which have been created by Collis' flicks, offloads and passes. If anything he is creating more even more space this season as he is now fully fit and as such it is more apparent but he did it plenty last year as well.
As for Smith there was some bagging his signing last year, just wanted to check that you weren't one and knew something about the game!
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I think you are taking the 'seen precious little of that sort of thing before' out of context - I am specifically referring to his offload game. For clarity, I will quote the post that seems to have got many wetting their collective knickers:
Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"Agree in the main, a very good centre and I don't remember one at Belle Vue for a very long time who had the same amount of class. Runs cracking lines, pacey, great fend as you say and not too shabby in defence either.
The only part of the post I would take slight issue is the offload game - in my opinion this is the part of the game he is missing and it is this that "holds him back" from going on to bigger and better things.'"
I thought it was fairly obvious I was referring to specifically "offloads". Not creating space. Not running great lines. Not drawing his man and passing. Not creating chances for Fox via his footwork. His offload game (that is to say passing in contact) isn't as good as the other aspects of his game, and despite a lovely pass lastnight to the winger I still don't think he has shown an effective offloading game.
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Fingers crossed we keep hold of him, glad to see him enjoying things cos quality classy players like that don't come along every day.'"
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| Quote ="asmadasa"Just looked it up and we've got him for another 2 seasons anyway so if he stays fit he'll continue to get his plaudits week in and week out for Wakefield regardless of sceptics. He's only 27.
I admit last season he used to go missing but think that was something to do with injuries. This season he's been very good and a real handful for the opposition creating tries for Fox and Aiton yesterday.
We've got a good team we just need a bit more consistency and keep our defence tight.'"
When did Aiton score ???????
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