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| If we've got a chance, why not go for him. I've no doubt there'll be plenty of offers from other clubs. I trust AG to do what is best for the club whatever the outcome.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"A signing like Gleeson could be self financing though. Improved performance on the pitch = increase in crowd.'"
Not without a prop and 2 halfbacks
A centre will make little difference
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Gleeson wont come cheap and i dont think gleesons defence is the best anyway !! Why cant we sign a proper 6 from australia when glovers papers come through?? I dont think gleeson would make over much difference my opinion.'"
Why do people think if somebody speaks English with a funny accent they must automatically be a class cricketer, rugby league/union player?. Theres as much crap over there has here.
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| Quote ="Did you know?."Why do people think if somebody speaks English with a funny accent they must automatically be a class cricketer, rugby league/union player?. Theres as much crap over there has here.'"
And we at WTW, more than most, should be very well aware of that!
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| Quote ="Did you know?."Why do people think if somebody speaks English with a funny accent they must automatically be a class cricketer, rugby league/union player?. Theres as much crap over there has here.'"
Nature of averages. League in Australia has the pick of the athletes where as here its probably 4th or 5th down the list. The talent pool is so much bigger in Australia there is naturally going to be a greater number of superior players.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Nature of averages. League in Australia has the pick of the athletes where as here its probably 4th or 5th down the list. The talent pool is so much bigger in Australia there is naturally going to be a greater number of superior players.'"
Not doubting that for a minute, but if a bigger tallent pool means quality players it also means there will be more people who are dross. Only got to look at chavball over here.
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| Quote ="Did you know?."Not doubting that for a minute, but if a bigger tallent pool means quality players it also means there will be more people who are dross. Only got to look at chavball over here.'"
True, and too many have ended up here.
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| We do not need this bloke he is trouble with a capital T...i know what went on at Wigan and it wasnt one misdemeanour but three...
HE WILL RUIN THE TEM SPIRIT THAT WE HAVE AT THE CLUB....TALENTED OR NOT
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| Quote ="Fred Gee"We do not need this bloke he is trouble with a capital T...i know what went on at Wigan and it wasnt one misdemeanour but three...
HE WILL RUIN THE TEM SPIRIT THAT WE HAVE AT THE CLUB....TALENTED OR NOT'"
I can see where you are coming from but he might realise that this is his last chance and knuckle down.
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| Just like Paul Cooke did..........
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| Quote ="kinleycat"Just like Paul Cooke did..........'"
Fair point but that doesn't mean that if Gleeson does sign he will be the same as Cooke.
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| Quote ="Fred Gee"We do not need this bloke he is trouble with a capital T...i know what went on at Wigan and it wasnt one misdemeanour but three...
HE WILL RUIN THE TEM SPIRIT THAT WE HAVE AT THE CLUB....TALENTED OR NOT'"
No, like the rest of us you just think you do. If I had £10 for every true story I've heard from an utterly reliable source I'd be a millionaire.
Since when have good RL players not been trouble anyway. They don't come much more troubled than Brough and there can't be many on here who wouldn't have him back in a heart beat.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"Just like Paul Cooke did..........'"
or Richard Moore, Latu, Wilkes, Brough and the list goes on - it's gamble but the odds look good.
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| I agree there are a lot of talented sports stars that are also trouble at times. Try and change them and they lose their edge. Look at a certain Rooney he's talented but trouble comes with the package same with Brough and other stars.
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| Quote ="supercat"I agree there are a lot of [size=150talented sports stars that are also trouble at times[/size. Try and change them and they lose their edge. Look at a certain Rooney he's talented but trouble comes with the package same with Brough and other stars.'"
But who's to say that means he's trouble in the dressing room? He could be one of the most popular guys in there, just because he swears at camera's and possibly nails snatch whilst his wife is pregnant doesn't then mean he is a bad influence in the dressing room. Really turd players who seemiongly keep their noses clean could equally be a bad influence in the dressing room and we'd ever know it
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| Quote ="Schunter" Really turd players who seemiongly keep their noses clean could equally be a bad influence in the dressing room and we'd ever know it'"
How dare you speak of Super Kevin Sinfield like that
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| Quote ="Schunter"But who's to say that means he's trouble in the dressing room? He could be one of the most popular guys in there, just because he swears at camera's and possibly nails snatch whilst his wife is pregnant doesn't then mean he is a bad influence in the dressing room. Really turd players who seemiongly keep their noses clean could equally be a bad influence in the dressing room and we'd ever know it'"
I'd imagine G Neville was pretty annoying even as a team mate!
Not sure Gleeson would be the answer for us. I'd save the money for when we actually need it.
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| Quote ="altofts wildcat"Fair point but that doesn't mean that if Gleeson does sign he will be the same as Cooke.'"
Your quite right, just pointing out that people don't realise always realise that their drinking in the last chance saloon, even when the the bar man has put beer towels over the pumps, turned off the lights and gone home!
IMHO this is a thread going nowhere.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"IMHO this is a thread going nowhere.'"
I beg to differ - it's going to one of two places:
1. Gleeson signs for someone else and the thread is locked.
2. Gleeson signs for us, and a discussion about the relative merits of that signing ensues.
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| I think we should make every effort to sign him up if we think we have any hope of staying up this year.
At the end of the day hes a seasoned pro (a talented one at that) and we dont have many of them at the moment.
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| John Kears interview with the YEP (see other thread) would smack as hollow if we don't at least bid for Gleeson.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Gleeson wont come cheap and i dont think gleesons defence is the best anyway !! Why cant we sign a proper 6 from australia when glovers papers come through?? I dont think gleeson would make over much difference my opinion.'"
Mainly because getting the sonsorship papers through is only the first step. See John Kears interview in the YEP on the other thread. Realistically with the border control agency as they are it could be August/September before we could get anyone over anyway.
But don't let facts get in the way of you moaning about our lack of all things Australian!!
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| Quote ="The Clan"John Kears interview with the YEP (see other thread) would smack as hollow if we don't at least bid for Gleeson.'"
I was thinking the same thing; if the problem is that quality players aren't available, when they are, we should be moving mountains to get them here. Otherwise, as you say, Mr Kears words become just rhetoric.
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| Quote ="bren2k"I beg to differ - it's going to one of two places:
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2. Gleeson signs for us, and a discussion about the relative merits of that signing ensues.'"
I think it goes there, and that is why as far as WT goes, it's going nowhere.
From what I have been told, we are best of staying well away, I'm sure others know better, but that's what I've been told.
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| What have you been told? PM me if you want, I just want to be nosey!
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