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| Quote ="arliebird"so are the wildcats still planing to move into a new satdium if so why would you spend alot of money improving bell vue'"
To keep us in SL.
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| Quote ="TanTastic"The work will only be carried out if we get a place in super league so it would in the long run it would be very worth the cost in the short term no licence no outlay!
Drawing could have been more snazzy looked very back of fag pack to me!!!!'"
ok its great news anyway cant believe how negative people are been considering Ag willing to fund a redevlopment of bell vue with a chance that in a years time the club could well be moving fantastic news if you ask me
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| Quote ="The Clan"Let's not get hyper critical about what we were told tonight, at the of the day Andrew Glover is about to invest a massive sum of money into the temp development of Belle Vue and he should be thanked and commended for that.
SO WHAT IF THE MEETING WAS OVERSOLD TO US!!!!!!!!!!
Get real some of you!
The club have explained the need, the urgency and the importance of reaching 5000 members. They ave also now created a number of ways in which to become a member, those being:
* Season Tickets
* Gold, Silver, Bronze Membership
* Spirit of 1873 Club
No one has put a gun to your head, join or don't join it's that simple!
As for the redevelopment of Belle Vue
Who do you think will benefit from Andrew Glover spending his own money to do this?
Answer is you & me & every other fan who attends the ground over the next 2 or 3 years.
* Better terracing on the North Terrace and covered
* New covered West stand with new supporters bars
* More covered seating in front of the hospitality suite
* A new open plan supporters bar on the top floor of the hospitality suite
Jesus Christ! We were almost blinking out of existence 6 months ago!
This redevelopment will give Wakefield Trinity a Super League compliant stadium and it will be ready before Salfords and before ST Helens. It will make Belle Vue better than Odsal, Better than New Craven Park and way ahead of Wheldon Rd.
That will put pressure on the RFL!
Short of doing a David Copperfield magic act and unveiling a ready built stadium that had been conjured out of thin air, what more do you want from Andrew Glover!
Forget the Trolls that have decended on this thread who desperately want to dismiss this as nothing more than another drawing, a Richard Wrightesque PR stunt or some kind of con to get Trinity fans to shell out more money.
They don't care about you, they don't care about our club, they only want to pour derision on our plans because it scares the F^*K out of them! Their lives are so shallow that they have nothing else in their lives other than to SH$ stir and fuel the feeling of being let down, ignore them they're nothing!
Now get some perspective with regard to what was announced tonight and stop behaving as though you've been conned.
We have a man whose willing to invest heavily to ensure we have the best possible chance of retaining a licence when most of us have resigned ourselves to being demoted.
I for one appreciate his efforts and his level of belief!'"
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| Quote ="mwildcats"We have a LIVE franchise bid so we can add to it all the time upto franchise day, this is due to the unrealistic expectation the new company could create a franchise application in 3 weeks so the new designs and number if members will be in our franchise bid and will be used in decision making process'"
I must have missed that information. So basically, Wakefield can go bust and have right up to the deadline to pull a rabbit out of the hat yet Bradford, Halifax, Widnes, Salford etc. have to submit on April 1 and be judged against Wakefield's rolling bid? I can't believe that is true.
Hopefully, this was in the document submitted on April 1 otherwise it should not be included sadly. Every club could do this in that case.
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| With the greatest of respect guys this sounds like another Wakey 'We will build it honest guv' situation.
I hope i'm wrong but as soon as I read the web article my first thought was 'Yeah right!'.
I hope it happens but there is every chance the RFL will just ignore it because of your previous.
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| I do not care about the drawings, I get the jist of it, as long as the new stands are upto scratch then I am happy...
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| Quote ="wildcat13"To keep us in SL.
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i was very unclear on what all the new annoucements was and was just making the point to get a clearer picture of things, dint realise that andrew glover was willing to fund a redevelopment with the chance that the club could well be moving well done andrew glover
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| Quote ="Roverswall"With the greatest of respect guys this sounds like another Wakey 'We wil build it honest guv' situation.
I hope i'm wrong but as soon as I read the web article my first thought was 'Yeah right!'.
I hope it happens but there is every chance the RFL will just ignore it because of your previous.'"
dont you mean the previous regimes, this one is a whole new animal and looks like meaning business and
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| Quote ="Roverswall"With the greatest of respect guys this sounds like another Wakey 'We wil build it honest guv' situation.
I hope i'm wrong but as soon as I read the web article my first thought was 'Yeah right!'.
I hope it happens but there is every chance the RFL will just ignore it because of your previous.'"
Yes we was thinking the same but Ted as gone, AG looks like he wants to take the challenge by putting money where his mouth his, the build will go ahead
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| Quote ="Roverswall"With the greatest of respect guys this sounds like another Wakey 'We will build it honest guv' situation.
I hope i'm wrong but as soon as I read the web article my first thought was 'Yeah right!'.
I hope it happens but there is every chance the RFL will just ignore it because of your previous.'"
You are entitled to your opinion but this is not the old regime we are talking about here, there's been nothing to suggest that the new owner is anything but sincere and honest about his plans.
So far he has done everything he said he would and I see no reason to doubt that the redevelopment will be any different.
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| Quote ="arliebird"i was very unclear on what all the new annoucements was and was just making the point to get a clearer picture of things, dint realise that andrew glover was willing to fund a redevelopment with the chance that the club could well be moving well done andrew glover
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Hopefully now the cat is well amongst the pigeons at Red Hall
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| Just read 23 pages and I'm seriously wondering what people were expecting. I think the problem was that there had been so much speculation on here that expectation were raised into expecting eveything from Steve Parkin coming in with millions to a new ground going to materialise out of nowhere at Silkwood Park.
The problem is if you believe in rumours and fairy tales you invariably are disappoined.
Lets think about it. 6 months ago we did not have a Club or a pot to piddle in. We had no future whatsoever, the previous regime has all but finished it. Most people on here said they would be happy if they had a Club to support, whatever division it competed in, as long as we had Wakefield Trinity then we would be happy. What short memories some have.
We now have a Club and a chance of playing in Super League from 2012 to 2015.
It was made clear that we need 5,000 members in order to satisfy the RFL. We have 3,000 and clearly that figure has not risen. Hence the announcement of the 1873 Club which is aimed to push membership over the magical 5,000 figure - thus ticking one of those all important boxes.
Also we have a stadium that is non compliant so the announcement that Belle Vue will be improved to 12,000 capacity with 8,000 I think it was under cover thus almost making it fully SL compliant and better than some other Stadiums that are expected to get a franchise.
These improvements will be temporary so no one is spending £m's. Who owns Belle Vue ? - Does it matter, no, if we have a lease then what's the problem. Are these improvements in the SL Application - yes. Do we need planning permission - not if they are temporary structures. When will they be done - ready for the start of SL 2012 (assuming we get a franchise).
Only the next 6 to 8 weeks is going to judge whether Andrew Glover has pulled a rabbit out of the hat or not but I feel he has pulled a flanker but we'll have to see. One thing is for sure if we had not had a change of ownership we would have 2 chances of a franchise - a dogs chance and no chance.
Most important announcement in the Club's history ? We will know at the end of July but it just might turn out to be.
We still have a Club with a good chance of a francise and its in all our hands. You can contine to bitch about this and do nothing or you can continue the fight, join the 1873 Club and support the Club in its fight for a franchise.
I would not try to tell anyone what to do - the choice is yours - do what you see fit.
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| It is a new regime and Plans should not be treated in contempt because of a previous regime promise/ promises that have not materialised.
Glover has delivered all he said he would so far albeit many things on a smaller scale but that sends out positive indications.
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| Quote ="Roverswall"With the greatest of respect guys this sounds like another Wakey 'We will build it honest guv' situation.
I hope i'm wrong but as soon as I read the web article my first thought was 'Yeah right!'.
I hope it happens but there is every chance the RFL will just ignore it because of your previous.'"
Have to agree with this.
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| Thought that Alf was good saying in public that expansion is wrong.
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| Just got back and trying to get caught up on here
Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"
That reads that it will be completed, maybe it is in the Licence bid, if so, it gives us a damn sight more chance than at any time since N.M was pulled in.'"
In the second meeting it was implied that they can still add to the application due to the limited time between take over and the deadline, hence the push for 5000.
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| Quote ="inside man" as well as managing not to mickey off all the fans who didn't get in.'"
If you didn't 'get in' then that was only down to you not being willing to wait. They booked the biggest venue in Wakefield and more fans than expected turned up!
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| Quote ="Sandal Cat"Just read 23 pages and I'm seriously wondering what people were expecting. I think the problem was that there had been so much speculation on here that expectation were raised into expecting eveything from Steve Parkin coming in with millions to a new ground going to materialise out of nowhere at Silkwood Park.
The problem is if you believe in rumours and fairy tales you invariably are disappoined.
Lets think about it. 6 months ago we did not have a Club or a pot to piddle in. We had no future whatsoever, the previous regime has all but finished it. Most people on here said they would be happy if they had a Club to support, whatever division it competed in, as long as we had Wakefield Trinity then we would be happy. What short memories some have.
We now have a Club and a chance of playing in Super League from 2012 to 2015.
It was made clear that we need 5,000 members in order to satisfy the RFL. We have 3,000 and clearly that figure has not risen. Hence the announcement of the 1873 Club which is aimed to push membership over the magical 5,000 figure - thus ticking one of those all important boxes.
Also we have a stadium that is non compliant so the announcement that Belle Vue will be improved to 12,000 capacity with 8,000 I think it was under cover thus almost making it fully SL compliant and better than some other Stadiums that are expected to get a franchise.
These improvements will be temporary so no one is spending £m's. Who owns Belle Vue ? - Does it matter, no, if we have a lease then what's the problem. Are these improvements in the SL Application - yes. Do we need planning permission - not if they are temporary structures. When will they be done - ready for the start of SL 2012 (assuming we get a franchise).
Only the next 6 to 8 weeks is going to judge whether Andrew Glover has pulled a rabbit out of the hat or not but I feel he has pulled a flanker but we'll have to see. One thing is for sure if we had not had a change of ownership we would have 2 chances of a franchise - a dogs chance and no chance.
Most important announcement in the Club's history ? We will know at the end of July but it just might turn out to be.
We still have a Club with a good chance of a francise and its in all our hands. You can contine to bitch about this and do nothing or you can continue the fight, join the 1873 Club and support the Club in its fight for a franchise.
I would not try to tell anyone what to do - the choice is yours - do what you see fit.'"
I can't do <snip> but that sums it up for me.
do nothing and we are shot, have a go and who knows.
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| Quote ="Mr Slithers"Just got back and trying to get caught up on here
In the second meeting it was implied that they can still add to the application due to the limited time between take over and the deadline, hence the push for 5000.'"
Come on every one get it signed
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| Quote Maybe the £750K is the purchase price to buy back Belle Vue?
Second part of this announcement is the temporary development of our existing ground to satisfy the RFL in the short term pending our move to NM.'"
Something I posted earlier in the week and I was happy with this then just as I am now!
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| Quote ="Willzay"how have we "failed" exactly? at least we will develop BV faster than WR'"
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Quote ="TRT"I'm very happy for you.'"
Thanks.
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| Quote ="Trinity Till Death"They obviously didn't expect such a massive turnout which can't really be helped. Do you expect them to crush people into a room not adequate to hold them and risk people's H & S? '"
Prior to the second meeting, James Elston came to speak to us all. He said that Cedar Court wouldn't let everyone in in one go.
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| Quote ="Sandal Cat"Just read 23 pages and I'm seriously wondering what people were expecting. I think the problem was that there had been so much speculation on here that expectation were raised into expecting eveything from Steve Parkin coming in with millions to a new ground going to materialise out of nowhere at Silkwood Park.
The problem is if you believe in rumours and fairy tales you invariably are disappoined.
Lets think about it. 6 months ago we did not have a Club or a pot to piddle in. We had no future whatsoever, the previous regime has all but finished it. Most people on here said they would be happy if they had a Club to support, whatever division it competed in, as long as we had Wakefield Trinity then we would be happy. What short memories some have.
We now have a Club and a chance of playing in Super League from 2012 to 2015.
It was made clear that we need 5,000 members in order to satisfy the RFL. We have 3,000 and clearly that figure has not risen. Hence the announcement of the 1873 Club which is aimed to push membership over the magical 5,000 figure - thus ticking one of those all important boxes.
Also we have a stadium that is non compliant so the announcement that Belle Vue will be improved to 12,000 capacity with 8,000 I think it was under cover thus almost making it fully SL compliant and better than some other Stadiums that are expected to get a franchise.
These improvements will be temporary so no one is spending £m's. Who owns Belle Vue ? - Does it matter, no, if we have a lease then what's the problem. Are these improvements in the SL Application - yes. Do we need planning permission - not if they are temporary structures. When will they be done - ready for the start of SL 2012 (assuming we get a franchise).
Only the next 6 to 8 weeks is going to judge whether Andrew Glover has pulled a rabbit out of the hat or not but I feel he has pulled a flanker but we'll have to see. One thing is for sure if we had not had a change of ownership we would have 2 chances of a franchise - a dogs chance and no chance.
Most important announcement in the Club's history ? We will know at the end of July but it just might turn out to be.
We still have a Club with a good chance of a francise and its in all our hands. You can contine to bitch about this and do nothing or you can continue the fight, join the 1873 Club and support the Club in its fight for a franchise.
I would not try to tell anyone what to do - the choice is yours - do what you see fit.'"
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| Does someone who has a season ticket, membership and joins the lottery count 3 times or just the once?
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"Does someone who has a season ticket, membership and joins the lottery count 3 times or just the once?'"
3 times.
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