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| Quote ="Wildthing"I refrained from posting after the game last night, but we aren't out of it yet.
We have just made the task a lot harder but it's still possible.
If we go down, we will probably get what we deserve though.'"
It's the hope that kills you, the game last night pretty much encapsulated our season, poor start, got a little better, got everyone's hopes up then bang, they hit you with the killer blow of ice cold realisation that we are collectively a bit of a show.
It's now too late for this season to be resuced based on the last two performances. I felt we needed four wins to stay up, with Salford and Leigh away, Saints, Catalans HKR at home, I think we've got perhaps one win in there.
Cas now will have their tales ups and will go into the last 5 games with confidence. Ours has deserted us again.
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| Quote ="Willzay"Paid the price for the cheap option. Sacrificed SL for ONE just ONE stand.'"
You remain as dismal and clueless as ever. You must also have a really bad memory. Council, your court, Box, Richardsons....ring any bells? These guys have saved our club, achieved more than any before on a shoestring budget and done it all for nothing. You are one of quite a few who should be ashamed of themselves
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| Quote ="charlie63wildcat"You remain as dismal and clueless as ever. You must also have a really bad memory. Council, your court, Box, Richardsons....ring any bells? These guys have saved our club, achieved more than any before on a shoestring budget and done it all for nothing. You are one of quite a few who should be ashamed of themselves'"
Got to agree ,theyhave been s**t on by all the above, Pity now it is the rugby we are playing M C and J M have done a great job of the field
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| Cas have to play Warrington and we do not appear to have any possible chance of a win with our remaining fixtures
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"It's one stand more than Cas have done, and more like two if you include the now home end behind the sticks.
Not often you're the side I want to stay up, but was hoping for a Wakey win tonight. Cas have an awful run in so hoping you can still "pull a Wakey"'"
I keep seeing that our run in is easier than the one Cas have. Is it?
We have 3 of the top 4 to play plus the two teams in 6th & 7th battling it out for the last play off place.
They have 2 of the top 4, one team in the play off battle (warrington who have been useless recently) and two teams in Hull & Leeds whose seasons will likely be over by the time they play them.
Yes we’ve 3 home games left but two are Saints and Catalan who are now flying. Personally i think ours is pretty damn tough and its a huge uphill battle from here.
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| Quote ="charlie63wildcat"You remain as dismal and clueless as ever. You must also have a really bad memory. Council, your court, Box, Richardsons....ring any bells? These guys have saved our club, achieved more than any before on a shoestring budget and done it all for nothing. You are one of quite a few who should be ashamed of themselves'"
Indeed.
What he doesn't get is that 'one stand' has a better chance of giving us Super League status than signing half the Penrith team.
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| The team that run out last night for us was more than capable of a win over Cas. But to do that they had to get stuck in and take the game to Cas ,but after 10 mins you could see the effort wasn’t there and we got what we deserved by a team full of confidence unlike our lacklustre excuses of a team
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| Quote ="Kettykat"The team that run out last night for us was more than capable of a win over Cas. But to do that they had to get stuck in and take the game to Cas ,but after 10 mins you could see the effort wasn’t there and we got what we deserved by a team full of confidence unlike our lacklustre excuses of a team'"
Don’t agree as I think they did get stuck in. We started the slower of the two teams but wasn’t terrible. After about 15 minutes we were on top and the better team until about 35 minutes when due to a mistake we completely lost momentum and conceded two try’s to turn the game on its head.
Even in the second half we got on top a number of ocassions (enough to win) but just couldn’t get over the line. I attribute some of that to our halfbacks who didn’t really do the business last night.
Unfortunately Lino/Gale is not working. 3 games now. The initial was promising but last two have been poor.
Most on here will know my thoughts on Lino that I believe he lacks the ability/quality. He’s full of enthusiasm which I applaud but I just don’t think he’s good enough at all. I know he signed a 3 year deal. I do hope it isn’t for championship too (though he may find more gaps in defences for his running game in championship).
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"Don’t agree as I think they did get stuck in. We started the slower of the two teams but wasn’t terrible. After about 15 minutes we were on top and the better team until about 35 minutes when due to a mistake we completely lost momentum and conceded two try’s to turn the game on its head.
Even in the second half we got on top a number of ocassions (enough to win) but just couldn’t get over the line. I attribute some of that to our halfbacks who didn’t really do the business last night.
Unfortunately Lino/Gale is not working. 3 games now. The initial was promising but last two have been poor.
Most on here will know my thoughts on Lino that I believe he lacks the ability/quality. He’s full of enthusiasm which I applaud but I just don’t think he’s good enough at all. I know he signed a 3 year deal. I do hope it isn’t for championship too (though he may find more gaps in defences for his running game in championship).'"
Have to Agree to disagree on that then , don’t think we were ever dominating or on top , out defence was poor and our attacking was non existent , one man rugby the whole game
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| You would struggle to make one top 6 SL team out of both sides, and for me that says just how both have shown a total lack of respect for the composition.
Two badly run clubs that are extremely lucky 2 teams are not relegated.
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| Quote ="Kettykat"Have to Agree to disagree on that then , don’t think we were ever dominating or on top , out defence was poor and our attacking was non existent , one man rugby the whole game'"
We got over their line 4 times without scoring.
We were dominant to get there. We were poor at executing to not get tries.
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| Quote ="PopTart"We got over their line 4 times without scoring.
We were dominant to get there. We were poor at executing to not get tries.'"
I believe in the end we massively bottled it, got outmuscled in the middle and Castleford had the better RL IQ on the night. They attacked our weaknesses in our structures better and won very comfortably in the end.
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| Quote ="Pat Bateman"I believe in the end we massively bottled it, got outmuscled in the middle and Castleford had the better RL IQ on the night. They attacked our weaknesses in our structures better and won very comfortably in the end.'"
Don’t think they won the middle. In fact I think overall trinity won the forward battle or at the least it was evens.
I said before the game that Ward will have them ship it to the edges. He did exactly the same at London and is a very readable coach. They did exactly that. Shipped the ball to the edges many times during the game early and late in the sets. We failed to prepare for that.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"Don’t think they won the middle. In fact I think overall trinity won the forward battle or at the least it was evens.
I said before the game that Ward will have them ship it to the edges. He did exactly the same at London and is a very readable coach. They did exactly that. Shipped the ball to the edges many times during the game early and late in the sets. We failed to prepare for that.'"
We really struggled to get out of our own half for a long period esp in the 1st half ! We didn’t get over the half way .. kicking out of our own half ..! We didn’t win much at all esp to start with ! I really expected us to take it to them and we didn’t !
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"Don’t think they won the middle. In fact I think overall trinity won the forward battle or at the least it was evens.
I said before the game that Ward will have them ship it to the edges. He did exactly the same at London and is a very readable coach. They did exactly that. Shipped the ball to the edges many times during the game early and late in the sets. We failed to prepare for that.'"
and we failed to ship it out to the wings. We had Innes S, probably the fastest on the field, and didn't utilise him, except for doing the forwards work, driving the ball off our own line.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"Don’t think they won the middle. In fact I think overall trinity won the forward battle or at the least it was evens.
I said before the game that Ward will have them ship it to the edges. He did exactly the same at London and is a very readable coach. They did exactly that. Shipped the ball to the edges many times during the game early and late in the sets. We failed to prepare for that.'"
The fact they had Massey and broadbent missing for the entire second half and used up their 8 subs after us tells me their forwards played big minutes and we failed to dominate down the middle given the numerical advantage. Proctor was a no show in the second half for some be-known reason, though his complimentary 15/ 20 minute contribution was hardly noticeable let’s face it.
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| Just a massive opportunity blown away .. we didn’t lift unti Fifita came on ! Can’t for the life of me understand why / how we didn’t come out and get straight into them ! We stood off them , gave them all the time in the world . We made them look a good team ! Shocking .
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| Quote ="TimmySmith"What about fulltime Poppy?
Because we're back bottom, by some way now.'"
Hardly "by some way", it's two points.
Mind you, if we cant beat Cas at home, there is little chance of beating anyone else.
No Dagger still remains a mystery, the guy must be well hacked off.
He has to be in the halves now and Kay too, needs to play more minutes.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Indeed.
What he doesn't get is that 'one stand' has a better chance of giving us Super League status than signing half the Penrith team.'"
And what you don't get is that all of those off pitch changes don't give you a super league team if/when we are relegated at the end of this season, and no matter the investment and changes to meet IMG rules, if we're not super league at the start of next season, the IMG criteria will see us out of the top flight for the foreseeable future as they are going to prioritise those already in the league over those wanting to come up
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| Quote ="Egg Banjo"And what you don't get is that all of those off pitch changes don't give you a super league team if/when we are relegated at the end of this season, and no matter the investment and changes to meet IMG rules, if we're not super league at the start of next season, the IMG criteria will see us out of the top flight for the foreseeable future as they are going to prioritise those already in the league over those wanting to come up'"
I think you need to go read the rules again. That is word for word not true.
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| Top 6 down there are a number of teams who are pretty interchangeable between Championship and Super League. If the worst happens but we get our house in order, with hopefully the new guys in charge then I don't see a reason why we can't get back up if we win the second tier.
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| Would we even need to win the second tier ??
Without wasting half my day going through all the qualifying criteria, could we achieve a grade 'A' by ticking all of the other boxes ??
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| Not yet I don't think.
But I think we are in a reasonable decent B compare to others.
JM explained at the SH meeting the test criteria wouldn't consider stand etc until next year's actual assessment.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Top 6 down there are a number of teams who are pretty interchangeable between Championship and Super League. If the worst happens but we get our house in order, with hopefully the new guys in charge then I don't see a reason why we can't get back up if we win the second tier.'"
IMG score should be top twelve, get takeover signed off and we will be right
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| Quote ="PopTart"Well Ellis was watching today.
Wonder if he's still keen.'"
Matt Ellis`s Mum and Dad were also watching, they have been to several matches, I know Minards is advising that he needs to speak to them, perhaps he could have introduced himself.
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