Don't see why that made a difference.
Resting players wouldn't have helped us. We need them to play together.

I have no doubt it will be difficult and I am not at all confident of a win but I do see improvement and a lot are not seeing it simply because they are so down on the team for the previous games.

There is nothing wrong with drawing different conclusions to me when you watch the game. What I don't get is people just saying "we'll lose" and "no chance" with no discussion or logic.

If a Cas fan came on saying stuff like that you'd all want them banned

I was at this game as well brilliant

London were well up the League and were expected to beat Shudds but London had a "mysterious" off day. Driving home I remember hearing David Hinchliffe on the Radio Leeds after match phone in virtually saying up yours to the "suits" running Super League. All back to the Benidorm Flats where Martin Pearson led the sing along.

"All back to Benidorm" would be a great title for a book on the rise and fall (and rise again) of Wakefield Trinity

I think we'll do okay defending. It's whether we've got the panache in attack. We haven't scored much recently, although I don't think HKR will be as hard to break down as Saints or Hull. The issue is whether Chris Chester tries something different, and which different he tries, or whether he persists in pursuing the formula that clearly doesn't work. He's said some individuals are out of form. Will he play them once again? Will he have no choice but to play them?

I'm not expecting a win and I'm currently focusing more on the London results than our own. Thankfully, points difference will allow us to survive provided we are still two points ahead of London on the last day, but I'm more worried about the effect on Hull KR if they win, because they could go into their London game with nothing to play for.

Although not fully fatal if we lose, I think we'll be okay if we win and London lose in France, particularly as Rovers and London will take points off each other the week before the last game.

Pop Tart is spot on by saying everyone has a downer on the team because of the dreadful run and can never see any positives. On Sunday v Hull who are third in the table they scored 5 tries, 1 was a rebound off the post, 1 an interception and another a long range try from a Wakefield lost ball. They didn't break our line at will to score their tries and regards to comments that we run out of steam after 40 - 50 minutes, Wakefield won the second half 10 points to Six, although some would see it as Hull eased up.

Don’t forget the forward pass the forward pass from Connor!

Just watched the highlights from when we last played KR at their place.

Our attacking structure looks clinical, we are moving the ball at pace and it was our first game of the season!

When did we hold our line a number of times then?!! Once we held up Connor, then they scored a couple of plays later when Sneyd waltzed through. They forced no GLDO's, they knocked on SEVEN times in the first half, FIVE times in the first 20! They made TWELVE handling errors in total or near enough, they were very poor and were there for the taking, but again we couldn't capitalise. Unless there is SIGNIFICANT improvement in all areas, we WON'T be winning at HKR.

Well unless they knocked on on the first tackle each time I'd say we held our line.
Many if not most of the dropped balls were in the tackle.

You see what you want to see I guess.

Bet Drinkwater and McGuire are having sleepless nights worrying about how on earth they are going to break down our well coached, well drilled, determined, aggressive defense

Will they be given all the time in the world to kick for 40-20s, grabbers to ricochet off the post or run and take the line on?????



Time to close them down

Well, at least the bookies think that it will be close.
We are getting 2 points start on the coupon and I do think that Sunday will be a tight, nervy encounter.

Trinity definitely have the forwards that can do the job and some backs capable of finishing any chances.
Where we are lacking is in the halves and their old man (Maguire) is in better form than ours.

Even though East Hull is always bleak, in terms of weather, a really heavy downpour, before and during the game would help us no end

I'm already nervous about this on and its still 3 days away.

No need to be nervous the game will be dead n buried with 60 mins on the clock at the latest and it be a matter of keeping the score down for our points difference.but there will some positives to take from the game..be more nervous on Saturday as thats when london play and thats only team that will keep us up

I still believe that we have at least one more victory in us this season and it COULD be on Sunday


We have a decent record against KR and although they have improved since Smith came on board, they aren't world beaters.
Heavy rain and do them in the forwards.
I'm more than happy to be bored with 5 drives and a kick, only the result is important.
As for Saturday. IF London can win down in Perpignan, then, good luck to them. We cant affect that result.
FWIW, London have the largest handicap of the week from the bookies (14 start) and I dont see them winning that game at all.

I think I misunderstood your post! I thought you meant we held them out on our try line often, but you meant our defensive line in general? On that I would agree, but they made so many errors, they didn't build any pressure, they must have only completed at around 60% maybe, but still won comfortably........so it doesn't say a lot for us does it?! Even Chester said we had enough ball to win 2 games. I think we need to improve quite a bit to win on Sunday, but we will see......

I do agree.
I like to think we had something to do with the lost ball by actually being involved in the tackle or at least close enough to scare them in some way but yes many times it was down to Hull. I said to my brother that the team that wins would be the one who stops making errors first. When they had their little spell of tries I turned and said, yep, it's Hull.

All I'm saying really is that we have improved, but not to the level we need to yet. The breakaway try with the 35 missed tackles tells us that.

And 34 of those missed tackles all came during that Ratu Naulago 80 yarder!

That's the breakaway try I was meaning.

You have to attempt a tackle to miss it, I think you give our players far to much credit.

It's that lack of pride they seem to have in themselves that sums us up at the moment and they need to rediscover it ASAP.

Tony Smith actually picked the best 17 fit players he had available

The Leeds result was good for us, as it means they have something to play for against London in the next game. Silver lining and all that, because that is my main worry about Sunday if we lose (and if Leeds had won last night), that London would have two games against teams just cruising to their holidays.

And miraculously your 5 best players were injured for just the 1 week ? You really are very naive if you believe that. Don`t blame him one bit, it is the smart thing to do IMO.

I suppose you could look at it that way, but we have been relying on other teams results for far too long to keep us where we are now.
The problem is, we are in a deep run of very poor results and we have only 4 matches to save our skin.
Unless there is a big upturn in form this weekend i have a feeling that it is going down to the last game of the season, against London at Belle Vue.
As we all know, London overturned the odds last season to beat a team in their last match,Toronto Wolfpack, on their own soil who were red hot favourites to come up to SL.
Let's just hope this weekend gets us that win that will, i think, get us over the line and keep our SL status.

So you are calling Tony Smith a liar then?