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| Quote ="altofts wildcat"With franchising no longer happening, is it worth clubs spending millions on new stadiums?'"
Yes. The benefits of having fantastic corporate facilities, up to date facilities for spectators and the ability to not be embarrassed when courting prospective new sponsors can't be underestimated. The money generated (potentially) could see the club thrive for another 60 years. Good times have been had at BellView but it's time to make some new memories.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Well said Steady - exactly the point I was making.
Would you like to take over from Dave as our resident 'reasonable Cas fan?' He's getting a bit stale to be honest - could do with a change.
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| Quote ="Mable_Syrup"Yes. The benefits of having fantastic corporate facilities, up to date facilities for spectators and the ability to not be embarrassed when courting prospective new sponsors can't be underestimated. The money generated (potentially) could see the club thrive for another 60 years. Good times have been had at BellView but it's time to make some new memories.'"
I agree with what you are saying and I am sure every club would love a new stadium but my point is that without franchising there is no longer the rush so there is no need for clubs to push their finances in order to get a new stadium.
I would love to see us at Newmarket and It would be nice not to have to go the Wheldon Road anymore but my point is that there is no rush and a shiny stadium is no longer the necessity it was perceived to be 3 or 4 years ago.
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| Quote ="altofts wildcat"I agree with what you are saying and I am sure every club would love a new stadium but my point is that without franchising there is no longer the rush so there is no need for clubs to push their finances in order to get a new stadium.
I would love to see us at Newmarket and It would be nice not to have to go the Wheldon Road anymore but my point is that there is no rush and a shiny stadium is no longer the necessity it was perceived to be 3 or 4 years ago.'"
From a franchise POV there is no rush, but from a sustainable business POV, maximising its assetts in order to grow the business and therefore improve the future of the club both on and off the field it is still a massive priority.
We really do need to see some progress on this in the near future.
Regular updates from all parties would be ideal, even if it is just to reinforce where we are if there is nothing new to report. NM is in danger of being forgotten by the public and while i appreciate there is little the wider public can do about pushing it on, if it is gone from public perception is there the need or desire to keep it moving forward by all those involved as we need it to be?
I'm sure these projects, seemingly nailed on get shelved all the time, the longer they go on as sometimes requirements, legislation etc change.
I am not privy to what goes on, but to me at times this seems almost dormant.
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| If we want to compete monetary wise so being able to invest properly in both juniors and 1st team. Getting a new facility is a reality and the quicker it happens the better. What I'm saying is that just because we can relax about the stadium, we shouldn't. Just like just because we can have a stupid amount of over seas players doesn't mean we have to fill each spot.
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| Quote ="bren2k"
Well said Steady - exactly the point I was making.
Would you like to take over from Dave as our resident 'reasonable Cas fan?' He's getting a bit stale to be honest - could do with a change. '"
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We have competition for places now as our resident 'reasonable Cas fan'. Will this improve quality?
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| Cas Tigers have been unbelievably silent on the matter, unlike the Glasshoughton project with Richard Wright donning Hi-vis and Helmet for the camera's.
This makes me think we are waiting for the finances to be sorted this time without getting anyone over exited then the announcment will happen.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"Why don't you play at Leigh?'"
We have the DW to play at.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"We have the DW to play at.'"
You have when the football team let you!!!!.weddings permiting
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| Quote ="cross lane cat"You have when the football team let you!!!!.weddings permiting
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How many games have Wigan moved?
Oh and they are making a profit.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"How many games have Wigan moved?
Oh and they are making a profit.'"
Quit while you can; your suggestion is stupid, naïve and lacking any basis in any of the facts surrounding both clubs attempts to secure a new stadium.
HTH.
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| Why are we discussing other team stadiums now?
I know Cas forum is quiet but surely you can whip up a conversation on a new stadium?
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| There has probably been no shouting from the rooftops over this because as it stands now it is still a long shot. If it does happen it will be into the next decade before a ball is kicked there. These things drag on forever as Newmarket has shown. And even then there is no guarantees.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Good for them - let's hope it doesn't catch the attention of Cllr Wakefield, any hastily convened local conservation groups or god forbid, fans of opposing clubs who suddenly discover a love of brown outdoor spaces.
I hope it comes off - they need it as much as we do.'"
This site will enjoy the full support of Councillor Wakefield because this is the site LCC were pushing in place of Newmarket... because it was not adjacent Methley.
I think it going to be hard for many die-hard Cas fans having to write letters of objection against this development, having of course clearly set out and stuck by their principals against developing green-belt sites previously, then I would expect the letters of objection to coming flooding in...
This is potentially the start of a very long road and clearly having had the site rejected for removal from the green-belt in the LDF, the developer is prepared to role the dice for getting planning now the political landscape has changed. Of course, I am sure he is going to try and demonstrate exceptional circumstances for developing on green-belt using Cas Tigers need for a new stadium... sound familiar?
It will be interesting to see the views of some posters about this development and whether they stick strongly to their publicly declared principals...
I am personally neutral on the subject of whether this site should be developed, it is a matter for the local community, WMDC and the SoS office to decide on any application to develop this site.
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| as a cas fan, I really don't care and I just roll my eyes at talk of it all.
It's all too much politics for a very simple man like me. I'll just turn up where we are playing
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| I've got to say I'm not a big fan of the site for any development if I'm honest. Whilst it may not be rolling meadows or a wood where people can really enjoy the outdoors, it is the last little bit of land next to the M62 up there and with the old pit site being developed the other side I think it's important that we don't end up with a 'develop at all costs' strategy that see's the merging of towns to the point where there are no clear boundaries other than the M62. There are other issues too, which I'm sure will be addressed at any public consultations, but what does another development of this size mean for the town centre?
I try not to be for or against anything until I have all the information, but my gut feeling is that this is not the best site for development, though I accept it might be the best chance of Cas achieving a new stadium. Tough times/decisions ahead for all involved I fear.
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| It'll be interesting in hearing the views of that tireless environmental campaigner "Big Alf". How does his politics fit into supporting this scheme? I know your reading Alf, any chance of a response?
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| Quote ="deeHell"It'll be interesting in hearing the views of that tireless environmental campaigner "Big Alf". How does his politics fit into supporting this scheme? I know your reading Alf, any chance of a response?
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Bob onto the Casforum and ask him?
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| Quote ="deeHell"It'll be interesting in hearing the views of that tireless environmental campaigner "Big Alf". How does his politics fit into supporting this scheme? I know your reading Alf, any chance of a response?
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Why woud he bother ? I've been reading these forums for years and for ages alf was warning you that you were in severe financial difficulties with weekly CCJ's and WUP's and you chose to ridicule him and believe the people on here with the red white and blue glasses. I don't blame you in a way as we all naturally believe what we want to hear but don't invite some one one here and then throw the teddy out if he is eventually proved to be right.
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| I'm pretty sure no one has ever invited him on here, right or wrong
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| So anyway, this thread is duplicated on the Cas forum. It doesn't look like there is going to be the mass bite from Wakefield fans that was expected and no more additional info so we might as well close it.
.....last chance to add anything relevant.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4wakey"Why woud he bother ? I've been reading these forums for years and for ages alf was warning you that you were in severe financial difficulties with weekly CCJ's and WUP's and you chose to ridicule him and believe the people on here with the red white and blue glasses. I don't blame you in a way as we all naturally believe what we want to hear but don't invite some one one here and then throw the teddy out if he is eventually proved to be right.'"
I don't doubt you have been obsessing over Wakefield Trinity forums for years, don't know why just look at you own it's full of threads on the mighty Trin. Let's be honest you posted on here about a new proposed cas stadium expecting the bitterness and resentment some cas fans give to NM, but what you got is good luck responses not bitterness. I think that sums it up some cas fans are obsessed with Wakefield , Wakefield aren't bothered about cas.
TRINITY FOREVER
WAKEFIELD love this CITY
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| I think we will leave it there.
Pointless angling for bites either way as this was the attention of the OP in my opinion.
Any further commentcs can go to the cas board, they'll be glad of the company I'm sure.
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