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| Quote ="Wakefield No 1"[urlhttp://www.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/news/2012-membership-launch-the-future-starts-now/2011/08/[/url
That deffo suggets the price will be £100 IF 2500 season tickets are sold before sept 30th, they can't change that?'"
Without wishing to prolong the legal debate, the wording of the announcements on the website looks even more vague in this respect than it did with the "payment in full" issue (to me).
Initially, I thought exactly the same as you - that prices would stay at 100 quid. But reading back through the articles, I can see how you could interpret it as prices staying at 100 quid for those who subscribe before the deadline.
Maybe there's an announcement I missed that makes this clearer?
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"Its quite clear what the offer is, everyone understands the deal apart from you and me.
Only stupid people like me get confused by it
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| Quote ="Wakefield No 1"[urlhttp://www.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/news/2012-membership-launch-the-future-starts-now/2011/08/[/url
That deffo suggets the price will be £100 IF 2500 season tickets are sold before sept 30th, they can't change that?'"
The wording of that release has been debated at length - it does not however state that the price will be kept after 30th September, under any circumstances - nor should it!
We are all keen to see the club grow and become successful once more, and I really like that we have these types of deals, but why should I get my money out before the end of September if I could have just waited and let you lot do the work of keeping my price down!
By the sound of it, the price after 30-09 may not be the £175 originally proposed, but I'd be a bit narked if they didn't show some benefit to those who coughed up when required - else why bother again next year?
Your comment above just confirms the poor wording of the release as they clearly intended that to be relevant to those buying before 30-09 (or 1-10 as it now transpires).
If they now said '£125 if you buy before Xmas or £150 thereafter' then that would seem reasonable to everyone involved. No Rocket Science required!
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| Quote ="bazzo44"Dont forget me Al, am stupid'"
Something you confirm with every post...
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| Quote ="Schunter"Something you confirm with every post...
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| Quote ="TRB"The wording of that release has been debated at length - it does not however state that the price will be kept after 30th September, under any circumstances - nor should it!
We are all keen to see the club grow and become successful once more, and I really like that we have these types of deals, but why should I get my money out before the end of September if I could have just waited and let you lot do the work of keeping my price down! '"
Because if you can afford it, you not only go some way to ensuring that you actually benefit from the deal yourself, but you also help those who may not be able to afford it at the time, but would like to buy in when they have the money. That way, you get a nice, warm feeling in your heart, knowing that you've done a good deed, and reflect on those immortal lines "this is Wakefield, together we are stronger".
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| Quote ="TRB"The wording of that release has been debated at length - it does not however state that the price will be kept after 30th September, under any circumstances - nor should it!
We are all keen to see the club grow and become successful once more, and I really like that we have these types of deals, but why should I get my money out before the end of September if I could have just waited and let you lot do the work of keeping my price down!
By the sound of it, the price after 30-09 may not be the £175 originally proposed, but I'd be a bit narked if they didn't show some benefit to those who coughed up when required - else why bother again next year?
Your comment above just confirms the poor wording of the release as they clearly intended that to be relevant to those buying before 30-09 (or 1-10 as it now transpires).
If they now said '£125 if you buy before Xmas or £150 thereafter' then that would seem reasonable to everyone involved. No Rocket Science required!
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This offer is getting more and more ambiguous by the day...what's wrong with a simple straight forward offer of £120 say before october 1st and £175 after, clear as mud???
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| Relieved an email earlier today it reads....
Less than 48 hours to go….
The Wakefield Trinity Wildcats would like to remind supporters of our late night opening hours tonight and tomorrow.
The Wildcats Superstore will stay open until 7pm selling 2012 season tickets for fans that work until 5pm but wish to purchase in store.
There are only 2 full days remaining of the unbeatable 2012 Wildcats membership offer! The official number of sales now stands at 2340, less than 200 tickets away from our golden number. With only 160 to go and two more days of sales, the club are confident that the target will be exceeded if the rate of purchases stays as it has been over the past three days.
With membership for next year equating to an unbelievable £7.69 per game this offer is simply unbeatable. The club needs at least 2500 people to show their support and sign up to this new membership scheme before Saturday at 4pm to keep season ticket prices slashed at just £100 adults, £80 concessions and just £20 juniors.
The club is urging all supporters to sign up to be a member next year and help keep prices low for [size=150EVERYONE.[/size The future of the Wildcats is set to be exciting and successful with a host of new signings already announced for next year. With more recruitment news on the way, there has been no better time to get on board with the club and support the 2012 Wildcats team!
With the opportunity to now split the payment over two months, there is no better time to pick up your season ticket for Super League XVII and show your support for 2012 – the year of The Wildcats!
To purchase your membership please phone 01924 211611, call into the Superstore on Doncaster Road or simply click here to buy online – and don’t forget we are open late tonight and tomorrow!
This is Wakefield. =#FF0000Together We Are Stronger.
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"Because if you can afford it, you not only go some way to ensuring that you actually benefit from the deal yourself, but you also help those who may not be able to afford it at the time, but would like to buy in when they have the money. That way, you get a nice, warm feeling in your heart, knowing that you've done a good deed, and reflect on those immortal lines "this is Wakefield, together we are stronger".'"
Yeah, right on man!
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| Quote ="Wakefield No 1"This offer is getting more and more ambiguous by the day...what's wrong with a simple straight forward offer of £120 say before october 1st and £175 after, clear as mud???'"
I guess we can say that they are new at this! Perhaps next year they will have had more time and a little more experience.
James will tell you that selling ST's at HKR was not a problem, just showing that each club has it's own unique challenges. Ours is long term under performance leading to apathy - easy to say, hard to turn around!
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| Quote ="mwildcats"Relieved an email earlier today it reads....
Less than 48 hours to go….
The Wakefield Trinity Wildcats would like to remind supporters of our late night opening hours tonight and tomorrow.
The Wildcats Superstore will stay open until 7pm selling 2012 season tickets for fans that work until 5pm but wish to purchase in store.
There are only 2 full days remaining of the unbeatable 2012 Wildcats membership offer! The official number of sales now stands at 2340, less than 200 tickets away from our golden number. With only 160 to go and two more days of sales, the club are confident that the target will be exceeded if the rate of purchases stays as it has been over the past three days.
With membership for next year equating to an unbelievable £7.69 per game this offer is simply unbeatable. The club needs at least 2500 people to show their support and sign up to this new membership scheme before Saturday at 4pm to keep season ticket prices slashed at just £100 adults, £80 concessions and just £20 juniors.
The club is urging all supporters to sign up to be a member next year and help keep prices low for [size=150EVERYONE.[/size The future of the Wildcats is set to be exciting and successful with a host of new signings already announced for next year. With more recruitment news on the way, there has been no better time to get on board with the club and support the 2012 Wildcats team!
With the opportunity to now split the payment over two months, there is no better time to pick up your season ticket for Super League XVII and show your support for 2012 – the year of The Wildcats!
To purchase your membership please phone 01924 211611, call into the Superstore on Doncaster Road or simply click here to buy online – and don’t forget we are open late tonight and tomorrow!
This is Wakefield. =#FF0000Together We Are Stronger.'"
Still don't agree that the price should be left at £100 - as this may affect future sales - but happy for it to be not much more! We'll soon know I guess!
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| Quote ="TRB"Still don't agree that the price should be left at £100 - as this may affect future sales'"
Yeah... there may be more of them.
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| Well we all know what AG is like with his promotions the semi signing and the cedar court announcement no doubt they won't be kept at £100 even AG on twitter is questing the potential of this but it needs to be made clearer as I know a fair few waiting for it to be kept @ £100 with 2500 achieved i've tried to persuade them to get them before they'll be disappointed with the rise and he continues to do this.
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"Yeah... there may be more of them.
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| Quote ="TRB"James will tell you that selling ST's at HKR was not a problem, just showing that each club has it's own unique challenges. Ours is long term under performance leading to apathy - easy to say, hard to turn around!
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Hard to imagine how KR are any different in terms of long term underperformance. We seem to have a few "special issues" at Wakey.
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"Hard to imagine how KR are any different in terms of long term underperformance. We seem to have a few "special issues" at Wakey.'"
Have you been to Bransholme - there's not much else to do around there!
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| Quote ="TRB"Still don't agree that the price should be left at £100 - as this may affect future sales - but happy for it to be not much more! We'll soon know I guess!'"
I think its a good idea for it to stay at £100... Gives us the chance to get more support that the club not only needs, but deserves.
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| The club needs to generate money, and £100 season tickets isn't going to maximise that revenue stream.
It's a gimmick, and one that can and should only go so far, it also helps the club with some short term funding, when other revenue streams are not available.
If I were running it, I'd say something like " this has been a wonderful effort and to reward the fans we are going to continue with the discounts up until Xmas, but at £150", still a bargain the club gets some more wonga, the fans that take up the deal are still getting excellent value but not as good as those who coughed up early.
Then after Xmas return to last years £175, everyone's a winner and we could easily end up with 4 to 4,500 ST holders which is a massive improvement.
The team improves that generates a bit more, match day sales improve etc and we are starting to move forward.
Year on year this improves, one feeds the other and before we know it we are all sat in a full Newmarket thinking ain't this grand!!
A lot of things can go wrong of course (getting the little things right, something we never could do but desperately needed to), but it's as simple as you want to make it. Give them good value, something good to watch and a good match day experience and they will come.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"The club needs to generate money, and £100 season tickets isn't going to maximise that revenue stream.
It's a gimmick, and one that can and should only go so far, it also helps the club with some short term funding, when other revenue streams are not available.
If I were running it, I'd say something like " this has been a wonderful effort and to reward the fans we are going to continue with the discounts up until Xmas, but at £150", still a bargain the club gets some more wonga, the fans that take up the deal are still getting excellent value but not as good as those who coughed up early.
Then after Xmas return to last years £175, everyone's a winner and we could easily end up with 4 to 4,500 ST holders which is a massive improvement.
The team improves that generates a bit more, match day sales improve etc and we are starting to move forward.
Year on year this improves, one feeds the other and before we know it we are all sat in a full Newmarket thinking ain't this grand!!
A lot of things can go wrong of course (getting the little things right, something we never could do but desperately needed to), but it's as simple as you want to make it. Give them good value, something good to watch and a good match day experience and they will come.'"
It's not just about the season ticket price though here. If they can get get more people signed up to season tickets, the potential to sell more shirts, shorts, flags etc also increases. Not to mention the increased sales of refreshments within the ground. If the club can sell another 1,500 season tickets before the season kicks off, it's £150,000 up front and then a further 13 attempts to sell to a guaranteed 4,000 people. The 1,500 is just an estimate, but with Christmas coming up, surely another 1,000 at least should be achieveable.
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"It's not just about the season ticket price though here. If they can get get more people signed up to season tickets, the potential to sell more shirts, shorts, flags etc also increases. Not to mention the increased sales of refreshments within the ground. If the club can sell another 1,500 season tickets before the season kicks off, it's £150,000 up front and then a further 13 attempts to sell to a guaranteed 4,000 people. The 1,500 is just an estimate, but with Christmas coming up, surely another 1,000 at least should be achieveable.'"
Exactly!
Most of the hard core fans will have bought in at 100 quid anyway. If the required number is met and the price is honoured, how many extras could you reasonably expect to sell after that at full price? Leave people with a few quid in their pockets to buy some merchandise instead, or give those who maybe can't afford it now the chance to buy in at the same price later. It's not as if those who pledge now will lose hundreds in interest on their money in the process. It's still a huge bargain for them anyway.
Glover always said he was going to run this club as a proper business. I'm sure he's done his calculations. It may be a bit of a gamble, but if we/he can afford to take it, then why not? It tests the depth of the water, if nothing else.
How many people were wishing we had a Ken Davy when Huddersfield came up with their offer? Why close the door on potential new fans by increasing prices if we reach the target? You'll only end up with a (small) bunch of disgruntled "I bought my ST for 175 quidders", and the squabbling will start all over again, especially if pay on the gate offers are available for individual games.
Share the joy, share the love.
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| Quote ="TRB"The wording of that release has been debated at length - it does not however state that the price will be kept after 30th September, under any circumstances - nor should it!
We are all keen to see the club grow and become successful once more, and I really like that we have these types of deals, but why should I get my money out before the end of September if I could have just waited and let you lot do the work of keeping my price down!
By the sound of it, the price after 30-09 may not be the £175 originally proposed, but I'd be a bit narked if they didn't show some benefit to those who coughed up when required - else why bother again next year?
Your comment above just confirms the poor wording of the release as they clearly intended that to be relevant to those buying before 30-09 (or 1-10 as it now transpires).
If they now said '£125 if you buy before Xmas or £150 thereafter' then that would seem reasonable to everyone involved. No Rocket Science required!
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that's the logic behind my thinking but what is lacking is a longer term for the ones that can't cough up in one lump sum and look for installments, its not like that there is an outlay of cost in sending out goods as the season ticket will not be sent out until full payment received
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| Quote ="kinleycat"The club needs to generate money, and £100 season tickets isn't going to maximise that revenue stream.
=#FF0000It's a gimmick, and one that can and should only go so far, it also helps the club with some short term funding, when other revenue streams are not available.
If I were running it, I'd say something like " this has been a wonderful effort and to reward the fans we are going to continue with the discounts up until Xmas, but at £150", still a bargain the club gets some more wonga, the fans that take up the deal are still getting excellent value but not as good as those who coughed up early.
Then after Xmas return to last years £175, everyone's a winner and we could easily end up with 4 to 4,500 ST holders which is a massive improvement.
The team improves that generates a bit more, match day sales improve etc and we are starting to move forward.
Year on year this improves, one feeds the other and before we know it we are all sat in a full Newmarket thinking ain't this grand!!
A lot of things can go wrong of course (getting the little things right, something we never could do but desperately needed to), but it's as simple as you want to make it. Give them good value, something good to watch and a good match day experience and they will come.'"
gimmicks are great and you can see easily how they turn heads.
I passed on an idea via a club employee that was very similar to what the giants did a few years ago.
there was a draw at the beginning of the game to win a car (not sure if it was for a season ticket holder) but that was my thought for the gimmick,
imagine a 2500 to one chance of winning maybe that new car the Kia that does 80 mpg, it might not be big wow but with petrol costs rising so much and maybe a possible deal that could just about give you free motoring for the year.
so what would that cost £10,000 say for the full package divided by 2500 adult season ticket holders £4
would you pay £105 for the chance I would anyway just to support the club
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| Quote ="snowie"gimmicks are great and you can see easily how they turn heads.
I passed on an idea via a club employee that was very similar to what the giants did a few years ago.
there was a draw at the beginning of the game to win a car (not sure if it was for a season ticket holder) but that was my thought for the gimmick,
imagine a 2500 to one chance of winning maybe that new car the Kia that does 80 mpg, it might not be big wow but with petrol costs rising so much and maybe a possible deal that could just about give you free motoring for the year.
so what would that cost £10,000 say for the full package divided by 2500 adult season ticket holders £4
would you pay £105 for the chance
I would anyway just to support the club'"
Thought very much the same myself. Plenty of dealerships around the area who could perhaps contribute to the offer by providing a car, or at least a discounted figure, as part of a sponsorship deal with the club. Guy Salmon may not be too impressed but I imagine they're stock my be a little too expensive to give away.
Something like that gets people talking beyond the usual pool of people who would buy season tickets.
I've also thought having prizes of Ipads or Ipods as prizes for people who purchase match tickets in advance of game day may be a good way of encouraging take up.
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| Quote ="TRB"Still don't agree that the price should be left at £100 - as this may affect future sales - but happy for it to be not much more! We'll soon know I guess!'"
Why not, I got mine for £100 and I'm very happy with that. If they choose to keep it the same price, it can only benefit the club in the long run because they will hopefully sell plenty more of them than the otherwise would do.
You said, Quote but why should I get my money out before the end of September if I could have just waited and let you lot do the work of keeping my price down! '"
Personally, the more we sell the better off the club will be and as long as no one gets it any cheaper than me I'm not bothered. Like you said we all want the club to grow and be successful again, so if this is what it takes, is to get my season ticket a little earlier for £100 so be it.
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"Why not, I got mine for £100 and I'm very happy with that. If they choose to keep it the same price, it can only benefit the club in the long run because they will hopefully sell plenty more of them than the otherwise would do.
You said, Personally, the more we sell the better off the club will be and as long as no one gets it any cheaper than me I'm not bothered. Like you said we all want the club to grow and be successful again, so if this is what it takes, is to get my season ticket a little earlier for £100 so be it.'"
The point was that there needs to be an incentive to buy before the date set. I wouldn't,t necessarily increase the price by much, but I do think there should be a difference.
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