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| Quote ="bigalf"Vastman wrote:1) Newmarket has 1 road in - Glasshoughton has 2 roads each from seperate Motorway junctions 32 and 31
2) Glasshougton has a Railway Staiton on the door step 5 min walk away (Lots of away supporters travel by rail) - Newmarket has no rail link
So how are both identical?
1) Glasshoughton has outline planning permission and will get full permission
2) Newmarket will be lucky to get any permission and if it does it will be too late for WTW but Yorkcourt will be happy.
I think it's you grasping at straws!'"
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| Quote ="Gaslight"=#8040FFThis is just something Wakefield fans like to think when in fact the funding is there, hence 175k going to architects for plans. The "lack of funding" is just something fabricated by a Wakey or Fev fan on here and has pretty much zero substance.'"
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[iCouncil chiefs who met both clubs this week, suggested an independent assessment on both sites to establish which one was deliverable in the time-scale, and the most financially viable.[/i
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Deliverable in the time-scale - Glasshoughton
Most financially viable - with 1 parcel of land each against which to secure loans - Newmarket. With both parcels of land against which to secure loans - Glasshoughton (possibly / probably).
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www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/news/ ... 6423611.jp
Deliverable in the time-scale - Glasshoughton
Most financially viable - with 1 parcel of land each against which to secure loans - Newmarket. With both parcels of land against which to secure loans - Glasshoughton (possibly / probably).
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"How many rail destinations travel to glasshoughton don't make me laugh !'"
Its called a railway - you know how they work (or do you?) - You get atrain from huddersfield (for example) to leeds then another train to Glasshoughton. See its easy! |
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| Quote ="vastman"Didn't want to get to involved in this just yet but that is a reckless and biased post. Talk about I'm alright Jack.
Better road links? Both identical, both are slip roads of the M62, what are you talking about'"
The A1? It's hardly a massive distance mind.
Quote Better rail links? How many Wakey or Cas fans need a rail link, it is after all a stadium for Wakefield rate payers. '"
Possibly those without a car? I'm sure in these tough economic climes plenty have got rid of them.
Quote Better commercial area? What has this got to do with anything? '"
The sustainability of the clubs as businesses there? The commercial value of the clubs and the attraction of the area to families.
Quote Furthest along in development? In your dreams. '"
Well, the facts are that one has outline planning permission, the other doesn't. One has architectural drawings being unveiled in three weeks, the other doesn't.
Quote Least objectors? Glasshoughton, agreed but the objections to Newmarket are pretty limited. '"
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Newmarket certainly beats Glasshoughton for traffic as the ESCAPE and Freeport will be there can you imagine the traffic 6000+ rugby fans watching a match and freeport shoppers and Escape what many familys go for a day out. Newmarket would win hands down on that front.'"
Got me there, Im sure loads of rugby league fans would just love to visit Newmarket and take a tour round the empty industrial units (if they get built) rather than a look round escape and a few bevvies before the game then out to Nandos or any of the other eateries after the game followed by a bit of shopping to pacify her , then a leisurely train journey home.
You cant beat empty industrial units for a family day out nosirreee
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The Pro's and Con's are irrelevant. One stadium is fundable as it stands and one isn't. If both had the necessary funding then this proposal wouldn't have even thought up.
I think this is what Box has planned. Chaos, with rival supporters having a willy waving contest with regards to who has the better site. It detracts from the shameful way WMDC has handled itself recently. How on earth can they say one thing less than 12 months ago then, after a lot of money has been spent by both parties, change the goalposts completely.
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My gut feeling is that neither will get the support/approval needed to build a stadium and we will both end up in NL1 - if we are lucky. At least we might have another derby vs Fev to look forward to and we ain't too far from Batley & Dewsbury.
Meanwhile, in comes another French team (Tolouse?) to the SL. Perfect for the RFL!!
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But he does tell a few truths and im sure you dont like to hear them, but its all getting us nowhere, just a thought , let both clubs resign from Superleague to save them the trouble of getting rid of both of us , and get rid they will , both clubs , just as soon as a franchise is ready in scotland or italy or even timbuickfeckintoo.
Both clubs and fev need to keep their own identities and keep the sport alive in the area , whilst red hall do their best to kill the game as it stands .
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But he does tell a few truths and im sure you dont like to hear them, but its all getting us nowhere, just a thought , let both clubs resign from Superleague to save them the trouble of getting rid of both of us , and get rid they will , both clubs , just as soon as a franchise is ready in scotland or italy or even timbuickfeckintoo.
Both clubs and fev need to keep their own identities and keep the sport alive in the area , whilst red hall do their best to kill the game as it stands .
Maybe its time for a breakaway league..... it worked last time
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"The Pro's and Con's are irrelevant. One stadium is fundable as it stands and one isn't. If both had the necessary funding then this proposal wouldn't have even thought up.
I think this is what Box has planned. Chaos, with rival supporters having a willy waving contest with regards to who has the better site. It detracts from the shameful way WMDC has handled itself recently. How on earth can they say one thing less than 12 months ago then, after a lot of money has been spent by both parties, change the goalposts completely.'"
have you listened to yourself? Sorry but its both our clubs BoDs thats to blame they have failed us, Im sure Mr Box orchestrated the collapse of the world economy to hatch his materplan
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Good post I was about to say the same myself. I think Newmarket certainly beats Glasshoughton for traffic as the ESCAPE and Freeport will be there can you imagine the traffic 6000+ rugby fans watching a match and freeport shoppers and Escape what many familys go for a day out. Newmarket would win hands down on that front.'"
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Good post I was about to say the same myself. I think Newmarket certainly beats Glasshoughton for traffic as the ESCAPE and Freeport will be there can you imagine the traffic 6000+ rugby fans watching a match and freeport shoppers and Escape what many familys go for a day out. Newmarket would win hands down on that front.'"
The way in and out will primarily be from Jct31. take time to look at the[u "Approved[/u" plans, travel statements etc it's all there. |
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Great insight from a first class ,he seems to think it's all a evil underhand effort by Trinity to jump on all Cas' hard work to get a stadium,how far from the truth can you get. |
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| Quote ="Cas Man"Has Newmarket sorted out its yearly flooding issue yet?'"
All sorted out in the planning. |
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| Quote ="ambernotyeller"But he does tell a few truths and im sure you dont like to hear them, but its all getting us nowhere, ...'"
If you take that paranoid scatter-gun approach to everything Wakefield, you're bound to hit a couple of targets on the way, I suppose. But you're right, non of this will get us anywhere. |
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| Quote ="binks"have you listened to yourself? Sorry but its both our clubs BoDs thats to blame they have failed us, Im sure Mr Box orchestrated the collapse of the world economy to hatch his materplan
Give me suction ffs'"
And can you just imagine if we had a guy in charge of WMDC who was a life long Trinity fan,Cas fans would be saying the same. |
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| Quote ="Cas Man"Has Newmarket sorted out its yearly flooding issue yet?'"
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| Quote ="trinity for life"has cas sorted out its yearly fines for crowd trouble yet'"
why so touchy, it was a genuine question, i drive through newmarket each day as i live in Cas and Work in Wakey.. |
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| Quote ="binks"have you listened to yourself? Sorry but its both our clubs BoDs thats to blame they have failed us, Im sure Mr Box orchestrated the collapse of the world economy to hatch his materplan
Give me suction ffs'"
You don't think changing the goal posts after a lot of money has been spent is not a crap thing to do? Wasting money maybe be acceptable in the public sector, but it's not in the private.
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Quote ="RebelRebel"[iCouncil chiefs who met both clubs this week, suggested an independent assessment on both sites to establish which one was deliverable in the time-scale, and the most financially viable.[/i
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Deliverable in the time-scale - Glasshoughton
Most financially viable - with 1 parcel of land each against which to secure loans - Newmarket. With both parcels of land against which to secure loans - Glasshoughton (possibly / probably).
The clock's ticking down on the existence of a professional rugby league club within the City of Wakefield.'"
So it looks like Glasshoughton it is then.
In principle i dont have any issue with a ground share.
However im not convinced there will be any long term benefits to Wakefield Trinity if the share is at Glasshoughton and the same applies to Cas if the share was at Newmarket.
Which ever way the feasability study goes(i think Glasshoughton),its curtains for one of the clubs ,alternatively, within ten years it will be a merged club,which ironically i think will carry the name Wakefield.
Ultimately i think any ground share at either location will eventually result in the name of Castleford disappearing from top flight rugby league.
If one or both clubs refuse to share,then i presume the "promised land" option from the council will evaporate,leading to new stadia and both clubs ultimately out of top flight rugby.
Not much of a choice really,but i cant fathom why both developments are so reliant on a relatively small hand out from the council,when you look at the overall cost of a build and this handout is now seeing them backed into a corner. |
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Quote ="RebelRebel"[iCouncil chiefs who met both clubs this week, suggested an independent assessment on both sites to establish which one was deliverable in the time-scale, and the most financially viable.[/i
www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/news/ ... 6423611.jp
Deliverable in the time-scale - Glasshoughton
Most financially viable - with 1 parcel of land each against which to secure loans - Newmarket. With both parcels of land against which to secure loans - Glasshoughton (possibly / probably).
The clock's ticking down on the existence of a professional rugby league club within the City of Wakefield.'"
So it looks like Glasshoughton it is then.
In principle i dont have any issue with a ground share.
However im not convinced there will be any long term benefits to Wakefield Trinity if the share is at Glasshoughton and the same applies to Cas if the share was at Newmarket.
Which ever way the feasability study goes(i think Glasshoughton),its curtains for one of the clubs ,alternatively, within ten years it will be a merged club,which ironically i think will carry the name Wakefield.
Ultimately i think any ground share at either location will eventually result in the name of Castleford disappearing from top flight rugby league.
If one or both clubs refuse to share,then i presume the "promised land" option from the council will evaporate,leading to new stadia and both clubs ultimately out of top flight rugby.
Not much of a choice really,but i cant fathom why both developments are so reliant on a relatively small hand out from the council,when you look at the overall cost of a build and this handout is now seeing them backed into a corner. | |
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Has anyone not considered Mr box's real agenda here? Imo I think his real agenda is not to give anyone access to the 4 Million of loans. We are about to start the biggest public sector cuts since the second world war. Many people, a lot in front line service will lose there jobs. Under such circumstances it would be political suicide for the Labour party at a local level, to been seen funding these leisure facilities while the rest of the public are making major sacrifices to help balance the books. It might mean a lot to us die hard rugby fans but to the wider voting population it will draw little sympathy for either of our causes.
One minute Box talks about how spending priorities and budgets have to be slashed, next he effectively says the funding is still available as long as we agree. Of course that's very unlikely to happen so he will probably get to pull all the funding and not look like the bad guy. A win win for him, typical sly maneuvering that can only be expected from a politician.
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| Quote ="deeHell"typical sly maneuvering that can only be expected from a politician.'"
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Who cares... No merger or ground share unless it is at Newmarket and Cas come to us...
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| Quote ="deeHell"Has anyone not considered Mr box's real agenda here? Imo I think his real agenda is not to give anyone access to the 4 Million of loans. We are about to start the biggest public sector cuts since the second world war. Many people, a lot in front line service will lose there jobs. Under such circumstances it would be political suicide for the Labour party at a local level, to been seen funding these leisure facilities while the rest of the public are making major sacrifices to help balance the books. It might mean a lot to us die hard rugby fans but to the wider voting population it will draw little sympathy for either of our causes.
One minute Box talks about how spending priorities and budgets have to be slashed, next he effectively says the funding is still available as long as we agree. Of course that's very unlikely to happen so he will probably get to pull all the funding and not look like the bad guy. A win win for him, typical sly maneuvering that can only be expected from a politician.'"
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