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| Quote ="Jack the Beagle"What TRB!
When Big Neil,Skene,Brooke and later on Keith Smith were centres?
Not' picking you up'.
Just being' light hearted'.'"
You could add Domic and Casey to that too.
The problem is we have covered nearly 60 years with 6 names
+ Collis for 7
We've had some great wingers who didn't get a good pass.
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| Quote ="Jack the Beagle"What TRB!
When Big Neil,Skene,Brooke and later on Keith Smith were centres?
Not' picking you up'.
Just being' light hearted'.'"
Well I watched a bit of Smith, but the others - sigh!
As PT says, there's been a couple of others who feed a winger, inc Collis when fit, but I would say, in general, we use wingers as battering rams rather than racing machines!
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| Please do not mention Sicknote Colliss in the same breath as Keith Smith, Neil Fox, Skene and Brookey. There are 15 better centres in SL this season than Collis.
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| for me collis should go.we get no games from him,as for owen if he could get the form back from 2 years ago i would have him on a 3 year
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"Please do not mention Sicknote Colliss in the same breath as Keith Smith, Neil Fox, Skene and Brookey. There are 15 better centres in SL this season than Collis.'"
Ironically, Smith who was one of the most skilful I've seen was not exactly a picture of health.
Collis judged on his skills not his current injury is one of the best we've had since Smith himself.
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| Sorry, Collis should not be mentioned in the same breath as Keith Smith. He is still the most silky skilled centre i've seen at Belle Vue in the best part of 40 years.
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| Collis is a classy player, but massively flawed due to his propensity to injury; without that, he'd be at a bigger club. Sad but true.
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| Quote ="JuliffDiamondBarwood"Sorry, Collis should not be mentioned in the same breath as Keith Smith. He is still the most silky skilled centre i've seen at Belle Vue in the best part of 40 years.'"
Smith not half as silky or skilled as best centre I have seen at Belle Vue namely Alan Skene.
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| Quote ="JuliffDiamondBarwood"Sorry, Collis should not be mentioned in the same breath as Keith Smith. He is still the most silky skilled centre i've seen at Belle Vue in the best part of 40 years.'"
I remember going to an away match at Fulham when Smith was playing. He got the ball in centre field about 30-40 metres out from their try-line, and ambled across field towards the left wing. As he approached the touchline everyone was expecting the drop-off pass to the winger, but he dummied, hit the gas and left everyone else standing as he scooted around behind the posts......pure class !!!!!
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| Quote ="FIL"I remember going to an away match at Fulham when Smith was playing. He got the ball in centre field about 30-40 metres out from their try-line, and ambled across field towards the left wing. As he approached the touchline everyone was expecting the drop-off pass to the winger, but he dummied, hit the gas and left everyone else standing as he scooted around behind the posts......pure class !!!!!'"
Challenge Cup match, I was there as well.
Smith was a class player but suffered from illnesses rather than injuries, it turned out he had allergies to a large number of things including his own bed.
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| I was there too. I missed Smith putting the ball down because I was still watching the winger ((Fletch?) who I was convinced Smithy had offloaded the ball to.
An amazing player and worthy of his own thread.
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| Quote ="PopTart"You could add Domic and Casey to that too.
The problem is we have covered nearly 60 years with 6 names
+ Collis for 7
We've had some great wingers who didn't get a good pass.'"
Casey played mainly at stand off although he arrived as a centre - however you can't put him in the list IMHO because he was not playing SL opposition - and if I recall he sunk without trace at Salford.
Domic - yes.
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| At his peak, Adam Hughes was a pretty usefull centre. Still remember the try he scored at Headingley and the Wakey match video commentary just repeating the words "Adam Hughes" over and over again getting progressively louder and louder as he beat man after man until eventually crossing the try line.
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| Quote ="vastman"Casey played mainly at stand off although he arrived as a centre - however you can't put him in the list IMHO because he was not playing SL opposition - and if I recall he sunk without trace at Salford.
Domic - yes.'"
I take your point on Casey, though I personally rated him highly.
He should have stayed at Wakefield.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"At his peak, Adam Hughes was a pretty usefull centre. Still remember the try he scored at Headingley and the Wakey match video commentary just repeating the words "Adam Hughes" over and over again getting progressively louder and louder as he beat man after man until eventually crossing the try line.'"
I only picked out what I see as "passing" centres. There are a lot of blockbusting runners who are great centres who I wouldn't have picked in this list.
Greatest centres I've seen were in 82 Aussie tour
Steve Rogers was the most skillful centre with a perfect passing game (obviously he could do other things too)
Mal Meninga was the ultimate runner with the ball.
Complete opposites but truely great centres.
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| Justin Brooker anyone?
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Not sure If spelt correctly.
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| Gene Miles is the best wingers centre I've seen in the last 40 years, he had size, power, decent speed but knew exactly how to create space for his wingman and how to give him the ball so that the space was exploited.
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| Quote ="FIL"I remember going to an away match at Fulham when Smith was playing. He got the ball in centre field about 30-40 metres out from their try-line, and ambled across field towards the left wing. As he approached the touchline everyone was expecting the drop-off pass to the winger, but he dummied, hit the gas and left everyone else standing as he scooted around behind the posts......pure class !!!!!'"
Yep I was there too. If I remember Fulham were unbeaten that season apart from us? Smithy always seemed to have so much time but getting his tie ups was a real bugger!
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| Quote ="JuliffDiamondBarwood"Yep I was there too. If I remember Fulham were unbeaten that season apart from us? Smithy always seemed to have so much time but getting his tie ups was a real bugger!'"
It was a cup match I believe and once again we were considered to be the under dogs. I agree Smith was a class centre from the dark side but I think the physicality of RL was always a little too much for him.
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| Around about that time i was watching Trin and Cas in equal amounts, i always thought Smith was anonymous for 90% of games but then could produce that bit of magic. I had completely forgotten about Adam Hughes, whatever happened to him? In the modern day Jamie Lyon was superb for saints but going further back i admired Dick Gemmell at Leeds as a real wingers centre as that was the position i was playing myself at the time. He didn'y score many himself but all his wingers did.
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| Quote ="FIL"I remember going to an away match at Fulham when Smith was playing. He got the ball in centre field about 30-40 metres out from their try-line, and ambled across field towards the left wing. As he approached the touchline everyone was expecting the drop-off pass to the winger, but he dummied, hit the gas and left everyone else standing as he scooted around behind the posts......pure class !!!!!'"
If you had been a bit older and watched Foxy play you would have seen him do that most Saturdays' apart from he didn't waste his energy running across the field, as for a dummy Nelly would sell the winger one, two or three times in the game, John Etty, David Barend's, and Kenny Battye would tell you which centre in RL had the most class.
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| Neil Fox the best centre for me by a mile. He scored tries himself for fun and made hundreds for others. He had power and guile and in todays game he would have been awesome - as he was then.
Skene and Smith both class centres, but another of my favourites who was only with us a season I think was Geoff Wrigglesworth - never saw him miss with one of his thunderous tackles!
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| Quote ="sandaltrinityfan"Neil Fox the best centre for me by a mile. He scored tries himself for fun and made hundreds for others. He had power and guile and in todays game he would have been awesome - as he was then.
Skene and Smith both class centres, but another of my favourites who was only with us a season I think was Geoff Wrigglesworth - never saw him miss with one of his thunderous tackles!'"
Can't but agree with all this. Neil was so powerful that he would automatically draw at least 2 players creating lots of space. A personal favourite but a totally different kettle of fish was Alan Skene - slight, fast deceptive with a great dive for the try line. He also fed his right wing (Fred Smith if I remember correctly) enough for Fred to be a top try scorer. At that time watching an open game with these backs at their peak was pure pleasure.
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| Quote ="sandaltrinityfan"Neil Fox the best centre for me by a mile. He scored tries himself for fun and made hundreds for others. He had power and guile and in todays game he would have been awesome - as he was then.
Skene and Smith both class centres, but another of my favourites who was only with us a season I think was[u Geoff Wrigglesworth[/u - never saw him miss with one of his thunderous tackles!'"
Yes, I remember Wriggy, he also had a hand off like a steam hammer. I think he was a farmer and used to practice by wrestling cows at milking time! Good traditional centre.
Another favourite of mine was Jack Marston, down to earth no nonsense centre. Hard as nails Fitzwilliam lad.
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