Your right, Wakeys is not the most organised academy. Once they have the faciltites to coach and develop young players in a professional environment where they are looked after properly then the standard will improve.

Playing in a decent stadium with good training facilities is also a must when attracting young players to the club and being able to compete with Leeds etc and the club should put a lot of effort into the academy when the new stadium is built or else the loss of the best players to other clubs will continue.

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That's what calls - even Shudds and Cas' have a pop at our players. So what we have to do is raise funds to try and compete - possibly even give it it's own brand name - maybe John Kear can get involved?

What? It's been done and it's called T-R-Y (Trinity's Rising Youth) Squadbuilder?????? Well flippin' 'eck - why didn't we think of that????

If these guys are that good - then why are so many people prepared to si back and allow them to leave - then just moan about it? I know times are tough - but there's plenty that could afford the fiver a month that was asked for!

We won't keep them all - but it would be nice to give John a fighting chance with them!



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It will be a big boost if its run properly, no longer seeing lads dissapear down the road and a big boost for the area in general.

The money needs to be put into the coaching and facilities as signing on a 16 year old doesnt cost that much.

Leeds pay peanuts to young players but the reason they go their is because they have great facilities, are in a professional environment and if they dont make it at Leeds they have a good chance of making it somewhere else.

Ok you are always going to lose one or two but if Wakey put some real effort into running it properly then players from other districts will be attracted into playing for the club from a young age.

I like the sound of a sports science faciltity at the new stadium what Wakey college will use.

I think all that have been mentioned have the potential to make it but certainly Anakin and George are front runners. It does not help when youngsters get turned away and they go to Cas. 6 youngsters from stanley rangers turned up at Wakey and we let them down we were totally un prepared fot there visitt and they went to Cas instead. We need to treat the youth with respect. Future of the Club.

Stop talking such utter rubbish.

It is as ever nowhere near as simple as you love to make out. For heavens sake just look at the fact for once. Bigger club, bigger budget, better facilities etc etc. We don't let players down we simply can't afford them, do you actually think w want to lose them!

Simple question, are you in squadbuilder?

I guess not.

So stop moaning and pay up or shut up and stop expecting people like Ted Richardson to bankroll your fantasies. When th club has facilities it needs and the population of Wakefield actually turn up in numbers then we will sign and keep the best.

Vasty sadly there is much truth in what he says. I can understand some of the lads going to Leeds, but to invest 3 years training lads through the Scholarship, for example Adam Milner, Danny Ansell and 3 other lads whose name escape me and convert non of them to the Academy losing 4 to Cas and 1 to Hudds is worrying. They are in no stronger position realistically than Trinity. I can understand losing 2 or 3, but losing all 5 graduates of the Wakefield Scholarship is a worrying trend.

Calm down you idiot. Its the simple factor of not meeting them and not making them feel welcome. Nothing else unprofessionalism thats all! I know you have a tiny brain and find that hard to understand Vastman!

Exactly right there mate. We are a club on the up and Wakey is far bigger club than Cas. Its a worrying trend. I am not making anything up. People need to get it through there heads everyone of my posts are all thinking about the state of the club because I love the club.

Just out of interest, how many members do we currently have in Squadbuilder?
I signed up last year at one of the "Audience With" nights, but I got the impression then that the take up was not as good as hoped.
Squadbuilder is one way that we can really help the club and I can't understand (personal finances permitting) why more supporters don't join!

Oh give it a rest, you know this do you - same old tripe.

Answer the question, do you pay into Squadbuilder!

How on earth is Wakey a bigger club than Cas, come off it.

You may post out of love how noble of you all the same. You just moan for effect as far as I can see, takes all sorts i suppose.

"To be fair Vasty I think wakefield are the second best club at recruiting junior talent in Yorkshire behind Leeds and Bradford" qouting you - make your flipping mind up.

It was said in jest Vasty, clearly even you cold relate it to the post on the Wigan board you made.

There is some truth in it to a certain extent though but it is more to do regards scouting players and recruiting them to the Scholarship System and looking down all avenues that other clubs would not consider such as Union, where they fall down is converting those efforts at times, and selling the club.

Many people have diffenernt views on Pete Riding, but one thing he could do was sell a club to a young player, think losing him has harmed Trinity in that respect.

Thanks for joining when we had our big push last year. Around 25 more people did sign up then. Sadly due to the economic downturn soe people have had to drop out and I fully understand their reasons ( being one of the casualties of the downturn myself). We have had a members draw for a wine and dine for 4 people for most games this season.....this weeks winner is Steve Hanson and other winners this season have included Mick Carr and Charles Dey. I do try and write a piece for the programme every week but openly admit we should maybe make more of this in the Wakey Express etc. We do help with the signing of young players where we can recent ones being Adam Slater, Tom Harrington & George Griffin. Thanks for all who support us.

Yes I got it.

Yes there is some truth in what you say - but let's be fair here in the last three years Trinity have converted from a virtual Aussie outfit to mainly British and had franchise and stadium issues to deal with. If we have failings in our Academy set up I think it's understandable. We can only do so much in three tears. I know it's now a major priority to sort, and priorities has been the issue for us.

It's all to easy for some moaners to snipe but as the saying goes we have come a long way baby.

Wigan have had nine of our problems yet still continue to get it wrong. In their case they sign them then don't seem to know what to do with them. We don't sign many but at least seem to get those we do through the system.

Yes I do know this, I have strong connections with the club im not a idiot I dont make things up, why would I make things up creating bad stuff for the club I love. Wakey has far more history than Cas and we are a club on the up we will take over Cas mark my words. Vasty you are like a race horse with blinkers on you really are!

Settle down, I'm going to tell you a story....



Once upon a time there was a player playing the other code in the Welsh Valleys. That player was on the fringe of the Welsh RU side, but there were 'great' players ahead of him in the queue and he felt that he was the right calibre of player to make it in league.

A number of clubs sought to sign this player and various terms were offered. One club got it's Chairman and football director in a car and travelled down to the home of said player. The player was so impressed by this action, and was made to feel so 'wanted' that he signed for that club - and made no secret as to why he chose that club.

The club was Wakefield Trinity and the player was Brian Juliff - I know this to be true through my interview with him last year (in the Wigan programme - who were one of the clubs beaten to his signature). As such, I can fully accept the argument that it is not only about money - it is about the professionalism in handling them - but, some of our guys have gone for the cash - and Shudds and Cas' in particular have splashed the cash in this area.

Clearly we are improving - as can be see from the number of kids named in this thread - but we must keep reviewing and re-investing for this strategy to work long term.

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What about that fat ginner?? He looked promising!

And before anyone says anything...

I'm a fat ginner too!

What are you basing your assumptions on? Cas are already getting better crowds than us, and it is a smaller place than Wakefield. Plus, whats to say Cas aren't a club on the up? Also in recent history, meaning the past 20 years Cas have a much better history than us...



I think the same could be said of you!

The problem is he is fat, not stocky or big boned but fat. If he shed a few stone then yes he could as he isn't a bad player and gets stuck in. Sure you can carry a bit of extra weight, I'm not one who believes all RL players have to comform to a standard size. However this lad simply can't be fit, not even close and that's a shame.

Who??

Thank you TRB. Professionalism and the handling! Unfortunatly that is not happening at the moment with players leaving to CAS.

The tea lady?

Yea and you will be amazed by the things she gets to hear