100% support from me and mine.

Congratulations to MC and CB for making this public.

#UPTHETRIN

Well done mc and cb

I'm completely behind you on this

This is exactly the action needed, so I guess the next step is the council do what they promised or we are going to court !

I hope the genuine threat of action is what finally leads to something getting built without ever getting as far as the courtroom. Usually in these cases it does to save face, hassle and money. I believe it is the most likely outcome from here and the only one that will actually mean a stadium gets built before we get the push from superleague.

This seems to be going back to fundamentals.
Who was responsible for ensuring the s106 was fit for purpose?
Who accepted the unilateral undertaking?
This may be where the council messed up. With the SoS being involved they seemed to feel they were relieved of their duties. Maybe they sleepwalked into this deal and honestly felt it was nothing to do with them.
It seems like the legal case may be based on the LPA's failure to ensure community benefit from the planning gain.

Let's also not forget what they have done re the Cas s106 and the benefit to a private entity that deal offers whilst at the same time saying the Newmarket s106 was nothing to do with them until recently when national media exposure forced them to make it look like they were trying to do something.

There is also the "missing" legal advice around allowing newcold not to count towards the trigger point

Usually in these cases........
It's hardly a daily occurance is it!

Just try to be positive and support the club
Negativity will get us no where

Forgive me for getting the impression that whatever the club does you always seem to want to have a little dig and search for a little bit of fault. I may be totally wrong and will give you the benefit of the doubt. Therefore....

Can you tell me what possible reason the the council could give in order to justify all the Newcold development not being part of the trigger area.
Bearing in mind they have admitted in writing to Mary Creagh that this agreement was reached between, Roney,Wallhead and WALKER. IN a closed room with no minutes and have also failed to give any reasons for their actions.

Do you also accept it is extremely reasonable to suspect that if a further development is planned then the council will adapt the same policy. Their past actions alone would suggest they have clearly demonstrated they have no intention for a stadium to be built on Newmarket.

Regarding the rent I am led to believe that the club have asked for specific details. The architects of the Belle Vue scheme have failed to answer and I am sure they have not concocted a figure themselves. How can you deal in such a shoddy way with a financial situation such as that. If all you get in varying ball park figures how can the club be nailed down to the specific details.

I hope this helps.

Maybe you could provide professional oversight to the barrister, just to make sure he's got all his ducks in a row beforehand? Alternatively, and this is from someone who readily acknowledges to being a victim of above average syndrome, you could stop pretending to be an expert on everything?

I think everyone is aware that they (York C, council etc.) had no intention of ever reaching the "trigger point" while ever a club by the name of Wakefield Trinity are in existence in the top flight. hence I presume, little need to mention that particular red herring.

Got told today that the land at Newmarket is worth 80 million to York court so greedy is a under statement

Don't need to pretend.



No in all seriousness you’re right, i'll step back from the forum, i realise having views that might not necessarily 100% fit with with the status quo and is scorned upon and a united front needs to be seen right now. Lets hope the club come through the other side with potentialy the biggest and most important win of its history. Good luck to all involved. Go get 'em!

Just one question, anyone know of the boxing day game is still at Belle Vue?

Quote ="drdnght"Looking at the Wakefield Express article they have published the whole statement minus 1 sentence... Which sentence.. "We are aware that the Tigers will own the freehold of their stadium at a transfer cost of £1." www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/news/ ... -1-8844761 #ExpressCasFans'" To me that confirms that the WE are pushing the narrative of Box and co. I mean why would you leave that line out?

Quote ="drdnght"Looking at the Wakefield Express article they have published the whole statement minus 1 sentence... Which sentence.. "We are aware that the Tigers will own the freehold of their stadium at a transfer cost of £1." www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/news/ ... -1-8844761 #ExpressCasFans'" To me that confirms that the WE are pushing the narrative of Box and co. I mean why would you leave that line out?

You would have to expect when the land went into brown belt the value would increased significantly not to mention the value increase for land banking since 2011.

"The time is always right to do what is right"
Martin Luther King jr
Up the Trin

Whether you post here or not is a matter of supreme indifference to me; my issue is that you appear to have cast yourself as a renaissance polymath with expertise that goes way beyond opinion - and that's just annoying enough for me to feel a need to point it out.

Excellent response from the club and once again Carter look's like the only one in this debacle with any class.
WMDC and the gaggle of chancers have behaved and are still behaving quite appallingly.

If there is any justice, the whole lot of them should end up in the stock's at City Limits and passers by could then show them just what they think.

Any protests planned ?

Good luck with the legal action, one thing about planning law is it is a complicated area with so many sections and sub-sections it blows even the experts minds. There is every chance either side could win or lose the case purely on a relatively minor technicality, no matter how solid their case looks. It is a pain to be honest and they usually drag on way longer than they should. I'll certainly be an interested spectator from afar.

Correct.

Whats been bothering me with this poster is expert or not he hasn't got all the information.

I consider myself an expert in what I do, but if I'm not in the briefings or not directly involved in a project then generally I can't give an opinion.

Sacred Cow is guessing, may have some expertise to back it up but it's still a guess. It's like trying to work out an Agatha Christie on TV with the volume off.

The Trust and the Clubs BOD are the only people who know the facts and as such are the only ones who's opinions matter - trust in the trust.

Anyone know when the shirt launch is going to be?
Ideal opportunity for a massive show of support to the club

Let's be fair we are all bring amateur experts in this.
No point calling someone out as we are all guilty one way or another.

Personally I'd say the statement is a good statement and was very much needed but it's not the legal case.
That could be won and lost on procedure or what was written down and provable. ... Not on what is right unfortunately.

And I'm not a lawyer.

I'm not! I barely have a clue re: the ground issues - I do however have gut feelings.
With that in mind I am behind MC and CB 100%

And the council have now hit back. https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/rugby ... gby-league Fully behind Michael and Chris on this

And the council have now hit back. https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/rugby ... gby-league Fully behind Michael and Chris on this

Guess we are all speculating as no one has a definite view of the facts, certain that if you asked anyone of the three sides involved you d get a totally different view of the facts. That’s how most lawyers make a living - you give them your version of the facts - they say your case is strong , course further down the line they can then say - we’ll i wasn’t aware of this and that.

I can’t imagine that the board haven’t done this without having a case they think has a decent chance of success. Also don’t see given the circumstances what else they could do. Reality is we are talking 30 grand plus with the potential for a lot more in legal fees for each party if this were ever to go to court. Also it would take a long long time.

Real concern is it’s only 3 months to start of new season having taken the train from the brink of ceasing to exist we need to get behind the management team.

When they get the crowd funding page done I ll do my bit.

Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"And the council have now hit back. https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/rugby ... gby-league Fully behind Michael and Chris on this'" I despise WMDC more by the hour

Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"And the council have now hit back. https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/rugby ... gby-league Fully behind Michael and Chris on this'" I despise WMDC more by the hour