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| Quote ="Roonaldo6"icon_smile.gif
Your becoming quite a humourous poster in all fairness. Whens the stand up circuit beginning ?'"
Yes I'm loving hilarious aren't I, different thread but I'm still waiting to find out why you fear the Rogerson Family?
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| Quote ="kinleycat"Yes I'm loving hilarious aren't I, different thread but I'm still waiting to find out why you fear the Rogerson Family?'"
Richardson, Rogerson, Maskill.. who knows who they are these days. Maybe a little muddled with all the Trillion and Javine etc... that has cropped up over the past few days.
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| Diane married a Rogerson, simon I think, and soon divorced. Nice fella as I remember, don't mix others up with that lot.
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| GO JUST GO !!!!!!
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| I think he should resign but think he's holding out for cash to pay his IVA. He won't leave until we have a new owner or we are in admin and well and truly done for.
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| if this had come out prior to Sundays match they'd have had to sell on the turnstiles only, they wouldnt have had the shop open.
Has the shop been 'open as usual' this week?
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| Just out of interest, and frankly I'm beyond caring - if Ted resigns now, what happens next?
I really don't know but I assume whilst he is there WT exist (in a fashion) but if he goes we no longer exist as a company just a pile of debt.
Until the white knight arrives, is it not a case of better the devil you know than nothing.
Yes Ted needs to go even if he hasn't deliberately done wrong IMHO. But before he does he owes us the time to allow others to step forward.
So for me it's yes but not until a mechanism is in place to move the club forward.
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| Quote ="vastman"Just out of interest, and frankly I'm beyond caring - if Ted resigns now, what happens next?
I really don't know but I assume whilst he is there WT exist (in a fashion) but if he goes we no longer exist as a company just a pile of debt.
Until the white knight arrives, is it not a case of better the devil you know than nothing.
Yes Ted needs to go even if he hasn't deliberately done wrong IMHO. But before he does he owes us the time to allow others to step forward.
So for me it's yes but not until a mechanism is in place to move the club forward.'"
The mechanism will be administration, which will happen if we don't raise the money to pay HMRC. The white knight either appears before then, buys the club and settles the debt, or buys the club from the administrator. At least, that's how I understand it.
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"The mechanism will be administration, which will happen if we don't raise the money to pay HMRC. The white knight either appears before then, buys the club and settles the debt, or buys the club from the administrator. At least, that's how I understand it.'"
Fair enough, I just don't want Ted to bolt if he is still of some use.
Like all of us I don't know exactly what he has done, though to me it's not looking pucker whatever it ends up. That said, no matter how devious and wheeler dealing he has been I doubt when/if he cooked up this dodgy deal he ever meant it to go so horribly wrong. That's not excusing him, if true he deserves all the hostility he gets. However as I say if he didn't mean it and thus has some remorse, then as far as I'm concerned he needs to give his all to help put it right.
So for me I'd keep him in the hot seat until he has done all he can to rectify the situation.
It's really hard to explain what I mean, no way am I being soft on the guy (if all true) I'm just being pragmatic on behalf of what may or may not be left of the club.
Right going to dissapear for a another few month before all this brings the rash back
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| Quote ="vastman"Fair enough, I just don't want Ted to bolt if he is still of some use.
Like all of us I don't know exactly what he has done, though to me it's not looking pucker whatever it ends up. That said, no matter how devious and wheeler dealing he has been I doubt when/if he cooked up this dodgy deal he ever meant it to go so horribly wrong. That's not excusing him, if true he deserves all the hostility he gets. However as I say if he didn't mean it and thus has some remorse, then as far as I'm concerned he needs to give his all to help put it right.
So for me I'd keep him in the hot seat until he has done all he can to rectify the situation.
It's really hard to explain what I mean, no way am I being soft on the guy (if all true) I'm just being pragmatic on behalf of what may or may not be left of the club.
Right going to dissapear for a another few month before all this brings the rash back
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If he is still some use? When as he been any use? Hes held us back for years plenty of interested parties hes discouraged. You have allways been a Ted fan and I can't believe you are sticking up for him in a fashion. Get rid and lets kick on.
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| Quote ="vastman"Like all of us I don't know exactly what he has done, though to me it's not looking pucker whatever it ends up. That said, no matter how devious and wheeler dealing he has been I doubt when/if he cooked up this dodgy deal he ever meant it to go so horribly wrong. That's not excusing him, if true he deserves all the hostility he gets. However as I say if he didn't mean it and thus has some remorse, then as far as I'm concerned he needs to give his all to help put it right. '"
I don't know about not meaning it to go horribly wrong - obviously, he didn't want that - for me, it's a question of whether or not he was deliberately trying to deceive and profit from the club. That hasn't been answered, for mine, so I'm prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt until it is.
That said, yes, of course he should go, no question.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"If he is still some use? When as he been any use? Hes held us back for years plenty of interested parties hes discouraged. You have allways been a Ted fan and I can't believe you are sticking up for him in a fashion. Get rid and lets kick on.'"
As ever you get it monumentally wrong on virtually every level. Yep it's clear to see I'm sticking up for him, the expression "Ted needs to go even if he hasn't deliberately done wrong IMHO" is an unquestionable sign of support, no really it is
People like you with your lynch mob holier than thou big hissy fit mentality achieve nothing, you just love the sound of your own voices - sadly you never learn. Shouting, accusing and abusing will not sort this mess out. If you think hanging Ted out to dry will help your wrong and even more deluded than even he appears to be.
No room for sentiment or revenge, we need to salvage what we can, and like it or not there will be an element of working with Ted involved. No point kicking a wounded dog who may still be able to bite you. Try and be grown up about it.
One more point, THERE HAVE NEVER BEEN ANY SERIOUSLY INTERESTED PARTIES in the real world, they only exist in the over active imaginations of people like you.
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| I would imagine that within a matter of days it will be be taken out of his hands as we'll either be in the hands of a new owner or the administrator. If by this time next week Ted is still in charge then he won't have a club to run as the HMRC will have had us wound up.
Either way Teds position is untenable.
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| Quote ="Theboyem"I would imagine that within a matter of days it will be be taken out of his hands as we'll either be in the hands of a new owner or the administrator. If by this time next week Ted is still in charge then he won't have a club to run as the HMRC will have had us wound up.
Either way Teds position is untenable.'"
It's that bit that worries me. Basically if we can keep out of administration long enough to be rescued that would be a real bonus for our future. As far as I can tell Ted is the only one who could possibly hold the line for a bit longer, it's all about time now. I don't know how he could do it but I have a feeling he might, he's managed it for the last 15 years .
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| We'll survive (99% certain) at what level who knows?
He won't come within spitting distance of BV or NM (100% certain) and rightly so.
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| Quote ="vastman"It's that bit that worries me. Basically if we can keep out of administration long enough to be rescued that would be a real bonus for our future. As far as I can tell Ted is the only one who could possibly hold the line for a bit longer, it's all about time now. I don't know how he could do it but I have a feeling he might, he's managed it for the last 15 years
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I assume you're using the word 'managed' in its broadest possible sense?
I don't see any cause for concern; if Ted walked away now, there are several people on the payroll who should be able to act as caretaker managers until our fate is decided. If we're bought by a new owner, from administration or otherwise, it's safe to assume that Ted will work with them in the short term, if only to untangle his personal and business liabilities and to ensure that he gets what's coming to him. I doubt he'll do a Reggie Perrin and take the super secret key to business success with him.
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| Quote ="vastman"
One more point, THERE HAVE NEVER BEEN ANY SERIOUSLY INTERESTED PARTIES in the real world, they only exist in the over active imaginations of people like you.'"
your reasoning, source, knowledge of this, comes from where ????
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| Quote ="vastman"It's that bit that worries me. Basically if we can keep out of administration long enough to be rescued that would be a real bonus for our future. As far as I can tell Ted is the only one who could possibly hold the line for a bit longer, it's all about time now. I don't know how he could do it but I have a feeling he might, he's managed it for the last 15 years
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well vasty its the first time i can say this to you. im lost for words.
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| Quote ="vastman"It's that bit that worries me. Basically if we can keep out of administration long enough to be rescued that would be a real bonus for our future. As far as I can tell Ted is the only one who could possibly hold the line for a bit longer, it's all about time now. I don't know how he could do it but I have a feeling he might, he's managed it for the last 15 years
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No good businessman would buy this club and saddle themselves with the debts rather than let it go into administratiom and get it on the cheap. If they did, they don't possess the brains or nous to run the club!
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"No good businessman would buy this club and saddle themselves with the debts rather than let it go into administratiom and get it on the cheap. If they did, they don't possess the brains or nous to run the club!'"
Time will tell, but anyone who did buy the club before Administration and cleared the debts would regain the confidence of debtors and probably make the clubs business dealings, particularly in the local community a lot easier in the future, and might score the odd brownie point with the RFL.
Probably a crap business decision but if I was wadded up I would do it.
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| who are the 18 people who voted NOT for ted to resign?
does 1 of them work in the shop?
are the rest family?
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| Quote ="LyndsayGill"Time will tell, but anyone who did buy the club before Administration and cleared the debts would regain the confidence of debtors and probably make the clubs business dealings, particularly in the local community a lot easier in the future, and might score the odd brownie point with the RFL.
Probably a crap business decision but if I was wadded up I would do it.'"
In some respects it could turn out to be a good business decision to buy the club before admin. It all depends on what chance you think we have of getting a franchise. With no administration black mark against us and playing in a SL standard stadium at Barnsley I would say we was a shoe in for a franchise. Our our application for a franchise would a lot better than Castlefords who will have to show that they have the funding to build Glasshoughton ( not likely at all). If the clubs is bought after administration then I really can't see us having a strong enough application with that against our name. In all fairness we probably would deserve a franchise (along with Crusaders) if we went into administration.
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"No good businessman would buy this club and saddle themselves with the debts rather than let it go into administratiom and get it on the cheap. If they did, they don't possess the brains or nous to run the club!'"
Maybe not, but that hardly helps us does it. If we avoid Administration we retain our SL status. We lose that we may never get it back.
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