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| Quote ="vastman"All I can see is that the old crush barriers have been removed. These are being replaced with new one on both levels if my memory serves me. Other than that I can't tell.
I'd guess the new concrete and steel framing for the North stand is the same as that used for the East, minus the seats, so will possibly arrive and be installed at the same time. Just a guess.'"
Thanks! i wasn't sure if the crash barriers was going to be re-set and re-used.
There was talk of some pillaring to sit the new concreate on wasn't there is I remember rightly, I guess that's what's currently going on.
I wasn't sure if it was pre-cast 'steps' or if they were going to be just fresh concreate laid over the existing, cheers! |
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| Quote ="upthetrin92"Thanks! i wasn't sure if the crash barriers was going to be re-set and re-used.
There was talk of some pillaring to sit the new concreate on wasn't there is I remember rightly, I guess that's what's currently going on.
I wasn't sure if it was pre-cast 'steps' or if they were going to be just fresh concreate laid over the existing, cheers!'"
Definitely pre-cast on a steel frame. You're right, that was the original idea but it proved too costly once inflation bit away at the budget. |
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There has been some mention of size comparison between North Stand and the new East Stand. I’ve looked at the plans and here are the measurements.
East Stand. Total length between 14 roof beams is 96.5 metres.
Roof height @ front (south elevation) 14 metres
Depth. From first row terrace to stairwell/lift shaft 31.7 to 33 metres.( one of the measurements line doesn’t show to this wall)
North stand application drawings from Oct 2011, very basic, shows height of 9 metres @ the front, from the middle walkway. It doesn’t show the length, and there is a sort of sketch for the western terrace development but as I say, very basic
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Link to the 2011 application
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There has been some mention of size comparison between North Stand and the new East Stand. I’ve looked at the plans and here are the measurements.
East Stand. Total length between 14 roof beams is 96.5 metres.
Roof height @ front (south elevation) 14 metres
Depth. From first row terrace to stairwell/lift shaft 31.7 to 33 metres.( one of the measurements line doesn’t show to this wall)
North stand application drawings from Oct 2011, very basic, shows height of 9 metres @ the front, from the middle walkway. It doesn’t show the length, and there is a sort of sketch for the western terrace development but as I say, very basic
drawings.
Link to the 2011 application
https://planning.wakefield.gov.uk/onlin ... ab=summary | |
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| Quote ="vastman"Definitely pre-cast on a steel frame. You're right, that was the original idea but it proved too costly once inflation bit away at the budget.'"
Was there talk of also covering the back of the stand as well? so its closed in?
not sure if I have that right |
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| Quote ="upthetrin92"Was there talk of also covering the back of the stand as well? so its closed in?
not sure if I have that right'"
Yes, it’s on JMs last video on trinity tv. |
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| Quote ="upthetrin92"Was there talk of also covering the back of the stand as well? so its closed in?
not sure if I have that right'"
FWIW, I think the North stand is in a state of flux. How it ends up depends on how well the North stand goes. If there are no issues then they can do more to tart up the North stand, if we hit snags, well it will be the minimum, but yes that's the idea. |
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| Quote ="upthetrin92"Was there talk of also covering the back of the stand as well? so its closed in?
not sure if I have that right'"
Yes. Minnards said that in his video thing. |
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| Quote ="vastman"FWIW, I think the North stand is in a state of flux. How it ends up depends on how well the North stand goes. If there are no issues then they can do more to tart up the North stand, if we hit snags, well it will be the minimum, but yes that's the idea.'"
I meant how the East stand goes, doh |
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| Quote ="vastman"I meant how the East stand goes, doh'"
Talking of which Mr Carter said that they had unearthed another pile of asbestos which was costing £60K to have it removed, surprised nobody has mentioned this before. |
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| Quote ="chissitt"Talking of which Mr Carter said that they had unearthed another pile of asbestos which was costing £60K to have it removed, surprised nobody has mentioned this before.'"
Why are you surprised. Where and when was it announced about this pile of asbestos? If it was at the Monday night forum, then only those in attendance would know about it. Again, poor communication from the club. |
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"Why are you surprised. Where and when was it announced about this pile of asbestos? If it was at the Monday night forum, then only those in attendance would know about it. Again, poor communication from the club.'"
I don't see what the issue is......
Do you want the club to explain how they spend every single penny?
I'm sure that as the work goes on, that they will find things they didn't expect too - the stand has been up for 2,000 years for gods sake.
I'd be happy to wait until its finished and then they can fill us in about all the costs....... |
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| Quote ="BarnsleyGull"I don't see what the issue is......
Do you want the club to explain how they spend every single penny?
I'm sure that as the work goes on, that they will find things they didn't expect too - the stand has been up for 2,000 years for gods sake.
I'd be happy to wait until its finished and then they can fill us in about all the costs.......'"
You may be right, let’s just wait until the club are asking for further monies from the fans for example the suggested shares scheme. Perhaps then the club will start communicating, but we might have to wait a while until they even get the club website sorted. Something is wrong within the club, I don’t know if it’s the Generals or the troops. |
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| Quote ="chissitt"Talking of which Mr Carter said that they had unearthed another pile of asbestos which was costing £60K to have it removed, surprised nobody has mentioned this before.'"
You better mention the mystery water pipe that was unearthed that was part of that unforeseen expense.  |
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| Quote ="chissitt"Talking of which Mr Carter said that they had unearthed another pile of asbestos which was costing £60K to have it removed, surprised nobody has mentioned this before.'"
Perfect example, though I’d assume there is a contingency for this kind of thing, but ouch. |
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"You may be right, let’s just wait until the club are asking for further monies from the fans for example the suggested shares scheme. Perhaps then the club will start communicating, but we might have to wait a while until they even get the club website sorted. Something is wrong within the club, I don’t know if it’s the Generals or the troops.'"
Sorry Dunkirk but I don’t get your problem either.
The club clearly has communicated this issue or Chissitt wouldn’t know would he.
There is a limit as to what you can expect the club to communicate and I don’t see a pile of asbestos and the cost of removing it as one of those. |
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"You better mention the mystery water pipe that was unearthed that was part of that unforeseen expense.
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Could this be our own “Peckham spring water” money maker?  |
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| Quote ="JINJER"Could this be our own “Peckham spring water” money maker?
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"You may be right, let’s just wait until the club are asking for further monies from the fans for example the suggested shares scheme. Perhaps then the club will start communicating, but we might have to wait a while until they even get the club website sorted. Something is wrong within the club, I don’t know if it’s the Generals or the troops.'"
Again, don't see what the problem is....
If they do I'm sure they will say what they will use the money for....
You can of course not bother contributing if that's the case........
If as you say, there is something wrong with the club, but you don't know what it is, be sure to let us all know when you find out..... |
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| Quote ="vastman"Sorry Dunkirk but I don’t get your problem either.
The club clearly has communicated this issue or Chissitt wouldn’t know would he.
There is a limit as to what you can expect the club to communicate and I don’t see a pile of asbestos and the cost of removing it as one of those.'"
At fans forum Mr Carter said they had found some more asbestos and it was costing the club 60,000 to remove get a few more problems like that and it starts adding up the cost |
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| Quote ="alegend"At fans forum Mr Carter said they had found some more asbestos and it was costing the club 60,000 to remove get a few more problems like that and it starts adding up the cost'"
Which is exactly the point Vasty was making, which I was merely highlighting to those that did not know. |
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Pics of the new stand on twitter look great and I managed not to notice the new playing surface, which looks excellent too.
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Just driven down Donny road now, frameworks have been added to the back of the stand now to give it some depth, started about 10yds (I think) from the start of the metal frame at the North stand end. I’m guessing this is gonna be offices, entrance, corporate etc. I was in moving traffic so couldn’t take photos
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| Quote ="JINJER"Just driven down Donny road now, frameworks have been added to the back of the stand now to give it some depth, started about 10yds (I think) from the start of the metal frame at the North stand end. I’m guessing this is gonna be offices, entrance, corporate etc. I was in moving traffic so couldn’t take photos'"
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"Why are you surprised. Where and when was it announced about this pile of asbestos?[u If it was at the Monday night forum, then only those in attendance would know about it. [/uAgain, poor communication from the club.'"
Not much gets past you squire, it was mentioned at the Monday night forum as you have correctly guessed, what I was surprised about was that nothing was mentioned about it by those on here that attended, I certainly didn't post it to get one over you if that's what you think, the reference to the asbestos and it's removal cost was in the context of another post, sorry if it upsets you that the club did not inform you personally, but if it's any consolation he doesn't confide in me neither, chin up. |
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