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| Quote ="Theboyem"Not saying it is his fault, he's gotta play the game, sadly its a game i'm sick and tired of. The RFL have a lot to answer for.'"
Yes the RFL as got clubs fans back biting each other, over this, I think a united front from all of the rugby league family, march on red hall and say enough is enough, bring back P AND R, and fine clubs that do not up grade the grounds...??
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| Quote ="poplar cats alive"The club announcement built up expectations along with peoples hopes ie silkwood park Parkin and his millions which is why people feel underwhelmed.The news is good if it means we meet all the requirements to get a new licence then why are some people not happy.'" Because on the surface of it, it just looks like another attempt at swaying a decision but nothing to follow it up with, even if AG has every intent of pulling this off, to fans of other clubs it is just same old wakey.
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| Anybody know how much it will cost and whos funding it?
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| Wakefield cannot add to the document they submitted on April 1. That is what the licensing decision will be made on. How can this, or any, announcement make a difference? That is why there was a deadline so that clubs could be judged over the 3 years and not some cobbled together idea a month before the franchise decision.
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| I’ve waited until I’ve calmed down and thought about tonight before posting. Underwhelming was and still is the initial thought; however it could also turn out to be a master stroke.
Everyone talks about Cas’s PR machine and tonight we played the same game, sure people will be upset at being asked to give more money to the club (a lot of fans will have already given close to 300quid to the club already) but it shows the club’s desire to fight. But almost as importantly, it makes a massive mockery of the RFL’s 5000 box ticking target if a glorified lottery scheme counts towards it. All I can say is well done to Wakefield exploiting for this.
As for redeveloping Belle Vue, it is so good to see that the club again are doing something about the current state to fight for that super league place. However more questions come of this than answers, and hopefully they’ll be answered before much longer. These include: DO we need to apply for planning permission and if we do surely it’s too late to count now? Will they get done without a Super League Licence? Who are the other investors that are working with Glover to develop them?
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| Quote ="Shoe Shine Johnny"Wakefield cannot add to the document they submitted on April 1. That is what the licensing decision will be made on. How can this, or any, announcement make a difference? That is why there was a deadline so that clubs could be judged over the 3 years and not some cobbled together idea a month before the franchise decision.'" I think the idea is this is in the application or at least i would hope it is.
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| Quote ="Trinitarian"I think there might be a case of schadenfreude with some of the cas fans posting on this thread. Just a check on their other vile forum they use shows what nasty little things they might have planned to put on a popular video sharing website.'"
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| AG didn't give a figure, he said himself and other investor/investors were footing the bill.
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| Really not impressed, the plans on the web site look so amateurish. Plans, i should say sketch. How long will it take before we can apply for planning permission. Not a good night at all.
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| Quote ="inside man"I think the idea is this is in the application or at least i would hope it is.'"
Did anybody ask? cos if it wasn't in the document then it is misleading the fans as this can't be counted towards their SL application.
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| Quote ="Shoe Shine Johnny"Did anybody ask? cos if it wasn't in the document then it is misleading the fans as this can't be counted towards their SL application.'" Wouldn't have a clue, my name wasn't down.
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| Don't need planning permission. Stands have already been in place before it's just taken a very long time to rebuild them! This could well be a master stroke in the franchising game. If this gets us a license people will look back and say yes that meeting was the most important meeting I've been to in the history of Wakefield trinity.
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| how much money will all the devlopments cost and would it be a waste of money as the club could well be in a new stadium 1 year later and then what happens to bell vue??
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| I think people need to give glover the chance. If he genuinely comes through on these developments and new inittiatives it could prove a massive boost for Wakefield trinity.
He has sold us no false dawns as yet and shouldn't be judged on previous non runner schemes. He is obviously trying his best to keep the club where it shoul and needs to be in superleague.
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| Quote ="mattyg159"I am really pleased with tonights meeting, I think it was a big announcement, we need 5000 signatures to tick a franchise box and by getting everyone to Cedar Court, getting bums on seats, stirring speeches from John Kear and Neil Fox people would sign up - I think Andrew Glover showed excellent marketing skills, he is putting his money where his mouth is by developing Belle Vue and giving the ground much needed atmosphere, I applaud Andrew James and all the staff, its only a few months ago we nearly didn't have a club to support, at least now we are in with a fighting chance of getting a franchise.'"
well said that man come on sign up, give us 5,000 fans base ticks the box and tick the RFL right off
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| Let's not get hyper critical about what we were told tonight, at the of the day Andrew Glover is about to invest a massive sum of money into the temp development of Belle Vue and he should be thanked and commended for that.
:b8qh62bkSO WHAT IF THE MEETING WAS OVERSOLD TO US!!!!!!!!!!:b8qh62bk
Get real some of you!
The club have explained the need, the urgency and the importance of reaching 5000 members. They ave also now created a number of ways in which to become a member, those being$ stir and fuel the feeling of being let down, ignore them they're nothing!
Now get some perspective with regard to what was announced tonight and stop behaving as though you've been conned.
We have a man whose willing to invest heavily to ensure we have the best possible chance of retaining a licence when most of us have resigned ourselves to being demoted.
I for one appreciate his efforts and his level of belief!
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| Well, having waded through 10 pages of crap, I'm not wading through any more. Anyone who doesn't think that is a massive announcement is a fool. If you built the meeting up in your own head to be the second coming then that's your own problem. The club only advertised the meeting and made you want to turn up, the fact that you invented whole scenarios of multi-billionaires investing in the club and a brand new stadium having already been built, ready for us to play Huddersfield in this week, or whatever else your flight of fancy decided was going to be announced shows you don't live in the real world. The club said the meeting would be massively important, that it would be the biggest meeting in the club's history. If it keeps us in Superleague, then it will be - don't forget they didn't just want us there to see the plans, they also need the members. They HAVE to have the members if we have any chance of staying in Superleague - the fewer people at the meeting, the smaller chance of this happening. In fact without proper advertising generating a desire to turn up, the meeting was in danger of being all the same people as usual, i.e. all the people who already are members e.t.c.
This news will, at the very least, mean that the RFL can't kick us out and say "they won't have a ground fit for our standards", because we will. Yes, they can still kick us out, but that is always going to be the case - we have just made it that much harder for them, and that is all that we can realistically do at this point.
Although, on the other hand, I can see why many of you think this is rubbish - all those broken promises of Andy Glover's since he's taken over, it's been terrible. Never seen the club so badly run, he just can't be trusted to do anything that he says. Oh no, wait...
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| No figures mentioned. Just said he and other investors will fund it. After buying the ground back from the bank of Ireland and redeveloping it for short term use ag is really putting his money where his mouth is. This is a significant investment and could frame the future of our club. People need to look at the bigger picture here and realise if we get the 5k members it is going to be very very difficult for us to be kicked out of sl.
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| We have a LIVE franchise bid so we can add to it all the time upto franchise day, this is due to the unrealistic expectation the new company could create a franchise application in 3 weeks so the new designs and number if members will be in our franchise bid and will be used in decision making process
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| Quote ="arliebird"how much money will all the devlopments cost and would it be a waste of money as the club could well be in a new stadium 1 year later and then what happens to bell vue??'"
The work will only be carried out if we get a place in super league so in the long run it would be very worth the cost in the short term no licence no outlay!
Drawing could have been more snazzy looked very back of fag pack to me!!!!
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| Quote ="The Clan"Let's not get hyper critical about what we were told tonight, at the of the day Andrew Glover is about to invest a massive sum of money into the temp development of Belle Vue and he should be thanked and commended for that.
SO WHAT IF THE MEETING WAS OVERSOLD TO US!!!!!!!!!!
Get real some of you!
The club have explained the need, the urgency and the importance of reaching 5000 members. They ave also now created a number of ways in which to become a member, those being:
* Season Tickets
* Gold, Silver, Bronze Membership
* Spirit of 1873 Club
No one has put a gun to your head, join or don't join it's that simple!
As for the redevelopment of Belle Vue
Who do you think will benefit from Andrew Glover spending his own money to do this?
Answer is you & me & every other fan who attends the ground over the next 2 or 3 years.
* Better terracing on the North Terrace and covered
* New covered West stand with new supporters bars
* More covered seating in front of the hospitality suite
* A new open plan supporters bar on the top floor of the hospitality suite
Jesus Christ! We were almost blinking out of existence 6 months ago!
This redevelopment will give Wakefield Trinity a Super League compliant stadium and it will be ready before Salfords and before ST Helens. It will make Belle Vue better than Odsal, Better than New ven Park and way ahead of Wheldon Rd.
That will put pressure on the RFL!
Short of doing a David Copperfield magic act and unveiling a ready built stadium that had been conjured out of thin air, what more do you want from Andrew Glover!
Forget the Trolls that have defended on this thread who desperately want to dismiss this as nothing more than another drawing, a Richard Wrightesque PR stunt or some kind of con to get Trinity fans to shell out more money.
They don't care about you, they don't care about our club, they only want to pour derision on our plans because it scares the F^*K out of them! Their lives are so shallow that they have nothing else in their lives other than to SH$ stir and fuel the feeling of being let down, ignore them they're nothing!
Now get some perspective with regard to what was announced tonight and stop behaving as though you've been conned.
We have a man whose willing to invest heavily to ensure we have the best possible chance of retaining a licence when most of us have resigned ourselves to being demoted.
I for one appreciate his efforts and his level of belief!'"
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| Quote ="The Clan"Short of doing a David Copperfield magic act and unveiling a ready built stadium that had been conjured out of thin air, what more do you want from Andrew Glover!
[Trolls don't care about you, they don't care about our club, they only want to pour derision on our plans because it scares the F^*K out of them! Their lives are so shallow that they have nothing else in their lives other than to SH$ stir and fuel the feeling of being let down, ignore them they're nothing!
Now get some perspective with regard to what was announced tonight and stop behaving as though you've been conned.
We have a man whose willing to invest heavily to ensure we have the best possible chance of retaining a licence when most of us have resigned ourselves to being demoted.
I for one appreciate his efforts and his level of belief!'"
Agree with everything you've said, but these bits in particular.
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| Quote ="Shoe Shine Johnny"Wakefield cannot add to the document they submitted on April 1. That is what the licensing decision will be made on. How can this, or any, announcement make a difference? That is why there was a deadline so that clubs could be judged over the 3 years and not some cobbled together idea a month before the franchise decision.'"
According to James Elston they can cos they are a new business and can keep doing so until Dday.
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| Quote ="the cat in the hat"Well, having waded through 10 pages of crap, I'm not wading through any more. Anyone who doesn't think that is a massive announcement is a fool. If you built the meeting up in your own head to be the second coming then that's your own problem. The club only advertised the meeting and made you want to turn up, the fact that you invented whole scenarios of multi-billionaires investing in the club and a brand new stadium having already been built, ready for us to play Huddersfield in this week, or whatever else your flight of fancy decided was going to be announced shows you don't live in the real world. The club said the meeting would be massively important, that it would be the biggest meeting in the club's history. If it keeps us in Superleague, then it will be - don't forget they didn't just want us there to see the plans, they also need the members. They HAVE to have the members if we have any chance of staying in Superleague - the fewer people at the meeting, the smaller chance of this happening. In fact without proper advertising generating a desire to turn up, the meeting was in danger of being all the same people as usual, i.e. all the people who already are members e.t.c.
This news will, at the very least, mean that the RFL can't kick us out and say "they won't have a ground fit for our standards", because we will. Yes, they can still kick us out, but that is always going to be the case - we have just made it that much harder for them, and that is all that we can realistically do at this point.
Although, on the other hand, I can see why many of you think this is rubbish - all those broken promises of Andy Glover's since he's taken over, it's been terrible. Never seen the club so badly run, he just can't be trusted to do anything that he says. Oh no, wait...'"
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