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| Ok....BG, do you have some embarrassing photographs of Mr Comcast, then ??
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| Quote ="FIL"Ok....BG, do you have some embarrassing photographs of Mr Comcast, then ??
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Neither mate
Just got the gift of the gab.....
And Us?
Friends?
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| Quote ="Sadfish"Comcast own SKY now, not Murdoch.....'"
Is that an American company?.
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| Quote ="chissitt"Quote ="Sadfish"Comcast own SKY now, not Murdoch.....'"
Is that an American company?.'"
Yes. It's a massive telecomm company but it has a lot of businesses under its umbrella.
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| Quote ="Schunter"Quote ="RWBA Wakefield Group"Just for info, from past experience the Sky Bet trader is the best in the business (if it's still the same guy who I was aware of a few years back). They price all the lower league games up including the outright for the National Conference. That has to have some confidence in your ability to form a view on something especially such a low competition (no offence to anyone that plays at that level). In general Skybet are normally on the money with their prices / views.'"
Do they even really price most markets anymore? I thought they just used the exchanges as the natural market level?'"
The Exchanges aren't up to much these days on Rugby League. Liquidity is nowhere near what it used to be and there was one person who priced up the lower league games all the time but fell out with Betfair so stopped doing it. Skybet are the market leader imo (but that doesn't always mean they are right).
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| Does it really matter what odds anyone has on Trinity winning the title. Lets face it, we aren't likely to win the title
The best thing about being written off is that this can be used as motivation for the players and staff and as the old adage goes, the game isn't played on paper and it's how well we go as a team.
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| They don't look much different to me, DS...so maybe it is just you
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| Quote ="Sadfish"Quote ="PopTart"They still have traders. They just tweek the feeds based on how much money is posted and any particular market and sometimes just to encourage people to a new market.'"
Skybet is owned by Flutter now, big shake up happening and reorg (so I hear).'"
Actually you are right. Flutter bought the Stars group which owned them before.
It's still run from Leeds which is probably why they have slightly better markets on Rugby League but the income from this market is a pimple compared to Football and Racing.
SkyBet isn't massive but a decent company worth betting with (and working at). They couldn't compete on Grand National day for speed of payout and even just said they couldn't pay out till next day but Flutter might have invested more and changed that. They do well on gaming too.
It costs millions to build the infrastructure to stay up on GN day, and the Premier League Saturdays are as big these days. The Big companies like William Hill are taking 15k bets a minute at the GN peak just on the website.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Quote ="Sadfish"Quote ="PopTart"They still have traders. They just tweek the feeds based on how much money is posted and any particular market and sometimes just to encourage people to a new market.'"
Skybet is owned by Flutter now, big shake up happening and reorg (so I hear).'"
Actually you are right. Flutter bought the Stars group which owned them before.
It's still run from Leeds which is probably why they have slightly better markets on Rugby League but the income from this market is a pimple compared to Football and Racing.
SkyBet isn't massive but a decent company worth betting with (and working at). They couldn't compete on Grand National day for speed of payout and even just said they couldn't pay out till next day but Flutter might have invested more and changed that. They do well on gaming too.
It costs millions to build the infrastructure to stay up on GN day, and the Premier League Saturdays are as big these days. The Big companies like William Hill are taking 15k bets a minute at the GN peak just on the website.'"
I don't gamble ,when i was a young'un my dad used to say to me "you never see a poor bookie" looking at this comment it looks like he was right.
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| Quote ="KevW60349"Quote ="PopTart"Quote ="Sadfish"Quote ="PopTart"They still have traders. They just tweek the feeds based on how much money is posted and any particular market and sometimes just to encourage people to a new market.'"
Skybet is owned by Flutter now, big shake up happening and reorg (so I hear).'"
Actually you are right. Flutter bought the Stars group which owned them before.
It's still run from Leeds which is probably why they have slightly better markets on Rugby League but the income from this market is a pimple compared to Football and Racing.
SkyBet isn't massive but a decent company worth betting with (and working at). They couldn't compete on Grand National day for speed of payout and even just said they couldn't pay out till next day but Flutter might have invested more and changed that. They do well on gaming too.
It costs millions to build the infrastructure to stay up on GN day, and the Premier League Saturdays are as big these days. The Big companies like William Hill are taking 15k bets a minute at the GN peak just on the website.'"
I don't gamble ,when i was a young'un my dad used to say to me "you never see a poor bookie" looking at this comment it looks like he was right.'"
well, i know of people who do make a living betting, but they are few and far between.
most betting shops know them, they restrict their odds and offset their bets.
usually they have inside knowledge, mainly in horse racing.
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| Quote ="Sadfish"Quote ="KevW60349"Quote ="PopTart"Quote ="Sadfish"Quote ="PopTart"They still have traders. They just tweek the feeds based on how much money is posted and any particular market and sometimes just to encourage people to a new market.'"
Skybet is owned by Flutter now, big shake up happening and reorg (so I hear).'"
Actually you are right. Flutter bought the Stars group which owned them before.
It's still run from Leeds which is probably why they have slightly better markets on Rugby League but the income from this market is a pimple compared to Football and Racing.
SkyBet isn't massive but a decent company worth betting with (and working at). They couldn't compete on Grand National day for speed of payout and even just said they couldn't pay out till next day but Flutter might have invested more and changed that. They do well on gaming too.
It costs millions to build the infrastructure to stay up on GN day, and the Premier League Saturdays are as big these days. The Big companies like William Hill are taking 15k bets a minute at the GN peak just on the website.'"
I don't gamble ,when i was a young'un my dad used to say to me "you never see a poor bookie" looking at this comment it looks like he was right.'"
well, i know of people who do make a living betting, but they are few and far between.
most betting shops know them, they restrict their odds and offset their bets.
usually they have inside knowledge, mainly in horse racing.'"
Indeed.
I worked in the IT side of the betting industry for a few years. While there I took a basic bookies course where they taught you how to be a trader/bookie. Really good.
At the end the trainer, who was a senior trader, asked for questions.
Someone asked how you can win at betting.
His first answer was: don't bet what you can't afford to lose, because the likelihood is you will lose it.
Second answer was: bet on something you know that is niche. He said if you bet on Liverpool v Man Utd, it's likely the traders know what is happening better than you. So it's just luck. If you enjoy the thrill it's great and can make a boring game fun, but the odds are against you.
A pro will study races not on anyones radar or target second division football in Switzerland and try and find lazy odds.
It's really hard work to make a living betting, but it's no different to working the stock exchange. You can make big money, but you are more likely to lose your house.
I bet for fun, but my bets are £5 or less and only on big events
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| Match betting is a way to be guaranteed you end up up rather than down but admittedly the offers and boosts to exploit are dwindling and the software of the big boys increasingly sophisticated, making life more difficult.Denise Coates is proof of where the balance of power lies!
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| Quote ="chissitt"Quote ="FIL"On the subject of Sky, my deal comes to an end in 3 weeks, so I will be looking to re-new but hopefully on better terms, for me, not them, as my package is now getting expensive.
So has anyone successfully negotiated down their contract recently ?? (as per Martin Lewis' recommendations)'"
If you go on to apps and then onto manage my account the monthly charge will tell you what it's going up to in 3 weeks time, mine went up from £101.50 to £116.50, when I told them to shove it they magnanimously offered to reduce it to what it was ok if you trust them, it's not 12 month since they put it up £5 per month from £96.50, a lot of money to pay for adverts second hand sport during the week, women's football, netball, basketball, and the most expensive internet on the market, good luck anyway
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We negotiated ours from £125 to £89 a couple of months ago.
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| Quote ="chissitt"Quote ="FIL"On the subject of Sky, my deal comes to an end in 3 weeks, so I will be looking to re-new but hopefully on better terms, for me, not them, as my package is now getting expensive.
So has anyone successfully negotiated down their contract recently ?? (as per Martin Lewis' recommendations)'"
If you go on to apps and then onto manage my account the monthly charge will tell you what it's going up to in 3 weeks time, mine went up from £101.50 to £116.50, when I told them to shove it they magnanimously offered to reduce it to what it was ok if you trust them, it's not 12 month since they put it up £5 per month from £96.50, a lot of money to pay for adverts second hand sport during the week, women's football, netball, basketball, and the most expensive internet on the market, good luck anyway
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We negotiated ours from £125 to £89 a couple of months ago.
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| Quote ="wakeytrin"Quote ="chissitt"Quote ="FIL"On the subject of Sky, my deal comes to an end in 3 weeks, so I will be looking to re-new but hopefully on better terms, for me, not them, as my package is now getting expensive.
So has anyone successfully negotiated down their contract recently ?? (as per Martin Lewis' recommendations)'"
If you go on to apps and then onto manage my account the monthly charge will tell you what it's going up to in 3 weeks time, mine went up from £101.50 to £116.50, when I told them to shove it they magnanimously offered to reduce it to what it was ok if you trust them, it's not 12 month since they put it up £5 per month from £96.50, a lot of money to pay for adverts second hand sport during the week, women's football, netball, basketball, and the most expensive internet on the market, good luck anyway
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We negotiated ours from £125 to £89 a couple of months ago.'"
Is that for Sky Q?
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| Quote ="FIL"Quote ="FIL"Update....our bill was due to rise from £98.50 per month to £122.85 per month as my deal was due to end next week, so I've spoken with Sky Retentions today and negotiated it down to £73 per month including UHD, so over the next 18 months we are set to save £900
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Good work.
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| Quote ="FIL"Quote ="FIL"Update....our bill was due to rise from £98.50 per month to £122.85 per month as my deal was due to end next week, so I've spoken with Sky Retentions today and negotiated it down to £73 per month including UHD, so over the next 18 months we are set to save £900
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You could have saved nearly £900 more by binning Sky off totally. I got rid a few years ago couldn't stand the Sky coverage of RL. Don't miss channel surfing one bit lol
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"You could have saved nearly £900 more by binning Sky off totally. I got rid a few years ago couldn't stand the Sky coverage of RL. Don't miss channel surfing one bit lol'" '"
That always seems like a really strange thing to do to me. I want to watch rugby league. They could have Kermit and Miss Piggy commentating for all I care.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Quote ="PopTart"That always seems like a really strange thing to do to me. I want to watch rugby league. They could have Kermit and Miss Piggy commentating for all I care.'" '"
That would actually be better commentary. When ever a big hit occurs Miss Piggy shouts “HiiiiiYa!!”
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| Quote ="PopTart"Quote ="PopTart"That always seems like a really strange thing to do to me. I want to watch rugby league. They could have Kermit and Miss Piggy commentating for all I care.'" '"
Not strange at all I cannot be d watching other teams so it gets me out to more games away from home. Plus I don't have to listen to the drivel served up by Sky's coverage of RL.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Quote ="PopTart"That always seems like a really strange thing to do to me. I want to watch rugby league. =#FF0000They could have Kermit and Miss Piggy commentating for all I care.'" '"
Thought they already had..........
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