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| Quote ="bren2k"I don't know where they've been hiding him, but the oldest 19 year old in the world was outstanding - not the quickest winger, but strong, committed and really effective; they couldn't put him down for love nor money!'"
Having not seen much of the 19's or indeed friendlies for a while, I did wonder who the old man was when he ran out with the squad, I thought perhaps a new coach. Still it seems that 50 year old strength inside a 19 year old body worked well as a combination.
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| Quote ="bren2k"I don't know where they've been hiding him, but the oldest 19 year old in the world was outstanding - not the quickest winger, but strong, committed and really effective; they couldn't put him down for love nor money!'"
Didn't look slow to me tbf
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"Didn't look slow to me tbf'"
I didn't say he was slow - I said he isn't the fastest.
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| Quote ="bren2k"I didn't say he was slow - I said he isn't the fastest.'"
I know what you meant but what I'm saying is he's faster than certainly I was led to believe, that was a quick length of the field. we are pretty lucky to have three genuine speedsters at the club in TJ, MCB and despite reports to the contrary BJB. Under normal circumstances we'd be marvelling at our pacy new winger
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| We also have Reece, who seems to be the quickest of the lot!
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"I know what you meant but what I'm saying is he's faster than certainly I was led to believe, that was a quick length of the field. we are pretty lucky to have three genuine speedsters at the club in TJ, MCB and despite reports to the contrary BJB. Under normal circumstances we'd be marvelling at our pacy new winger
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My observation was more about his relative speed - he doesn't have the acceleration of TJ, the effortless glide of BJB or the blistering straight line pace of MCB or Lyne; but I still wouldn't fancy my chances in a 100m race against him.
I like a rough and tough nuggety winger - and that seems to be his forte; legs like tree trunks, able to bust a tackle, and more bottle than Ben Shaws.
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| Quote ="newcat"We also have Reece, who seems to be the quickest of the lot!'"
He's fast but I'd say he's slower than all three wingers.
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| Quote ="PopTart"He's fast but I'd say he's slower than all three wingers.'"
According to the club stats posted a couple of seasons ago, Reece was the fastest over a 60m straight line sprint.
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| Quote ="bren2k"My observation was more about his relative speed - he doesn't have the acceleration of TJ, the effortless glide of BJB or the blistering straight line pace of MCB or Lyne; but I still wouldn't fancy my chances in a 100m race against him.
I like a rough and tough nuggety winger - and that seems to be his forte; legs like tree trunks, able to bust a tackle, and more bottle than Ben Shaws.'"
Indeed he isis, a totally different beast to the others. It too early to get carried away but his style (and I'm not saying he is anywhere near as good) is more like Carney was when he signed for Cas, rough and tough but with more than enough pace to finish the job. Certainly gives us options.INOUT
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| Quote ="PopTart"He's fast but I'd say he's slower than all three wingers.'"
Yeah I'd have to agree, Reece can only find that pace occasionally as far as I can tell but the others can find it all the time. Its a bit like Daves occational runs, he finds it from somewhere but not all the time. That said again its nice to have that Reece option as he's more than quick enough.
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| Mixing this and another thread, we have more size in the forwards than I ever remember - who know how to use it (no offence to previous incumbents such as Wayne McDonald and Chris Feather), and more pace generally across the backs.
Like with the forwards, the key difference is we are much better at making use of it - Paul Sampson, Paul White, Andrew Frew etc had pace to burn, but either didn't see enough ball, or didn't know how to use it.
I don't think anyone has even mentioned Tupou's surprising turn, which like Lyne is allied to strength to shrug off players, and both miller and Brough are still sharp - the latter impressively so for his age!
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| Forgot my on thread bit - great debut, entertaining, seemed to revel in getting stuck in, looks bloody awkward to tackle.
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| Wonder how the lad must've felt when running towards a pretty much packed North Stand cheering him on for his try.
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| Bet he didn't sleep Monday night . He must have been buzzing .
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| Quote ="Willzay"Wonder how the lad must've felt when running towards a pretty much packed North Stand cheering him on for his try.'"
We will never know sadly.
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| Quote ="Willzay"Wonder how the lad must've felt when running towards a pretty much packed North Stand cheering him on for his try.'"
Considering how emotional he was when his family and friends were cheering for him at the end of the game I'd say his heart was probably bursting with adrenelin.
He's got to be first pick to be interviewed on Trinity TV so we'll hopefully find out from the boy himself.
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| Quote ="dpbnov"Completely agree. I was dreading Kershaw on the wing after the boxing game derby but I was shocked as hell yesterday with his performance. Leeds couldn’t handle him'"
It amazes me that anyone can judge a player on one performance in a friendly, the notion of giving someone a chance doesn't even come into it. Also as far as I'm aware he made one error in that game, hardly criminal. Wiser heads prevailed.
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| I thought he was great, and his run in the 2nd half was better than his try in some ways......but, let's not forget on his try, he had come in way off his wing and Briscoe had a walk in if he had taken the pass. He found himself inside of MCB's pass because of this, and was quick enough. Fine margins though between winning and losing, it's about time we got a bit of 'luck' if you can call it that in tight games, if you keep putting that amount of effort in you get rewarded eventually, long may it continue.......
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| The problem he has got after his debut is how do you top that? Amazing performance , all credit to him and all the best this week in his second game
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| Quote ="Wakefield No 1"The problem he has got after his debut is how do you top that? Amazing performance , all credit to him and all the best this week in his second game
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He’s probably got a few more games yet as I reckon his blood is still 99% Adrenalin and he’s naturally an up and at them player. As the season wears on he’s bound to drop a bit but not too much.
TJ is a once in a generation winger imho but he’s certainly not without competition which is brilliant.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Considering how emotional he was when his family and friends were cheering for him at the end of the game I'd say his heart was probably bursting with adrenelin.
He's got to be first pick to be interviewed on Trinity TV so we'll hopefully find out from the boy himself.'"
He spoke to radio Leeds straight after the game and I thought he came across very well...certainly sounds very grounded...
Was an excellent debut...took his try well and came up with two excellent carries in the 2nd half when we were under pressure...those type of efforts lift the whole place...crowd, teammates, etc...
I know we’re down to the bare bones but there’s still plenty of quality in the side and it must be so much easier for youngsters to come in and do well when confidence is high through the team and there’s a real feel good factor around the club!
Just hope if he doesn’t quite match those performances in his next few outings the fans don’t turn..
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| Quote ="upthecats"
Just hope if he doesn’t quite match those performances in his next few outings the fans don’t turn..'"
lol.....this is the Wakey board, some of them are already drafting their bagging posts for Sunday night.
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| Quote ="Upanunder"lol.....this is the Wakey board, some of them are already drafting their bagging posts for Sunday night.'"
Indeed, London apart we are yet to suffer a bad defeat, if we do someone will need to be a scapegoat. Luckily for Kershaw Crowther seems to have picked up that mantle.
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| 3 man of steel points awarded too.
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"Indeed, London apart we are yet to suffer a bad defeat, if we do someone will need to be a scapegoat. Luckily for Kershaw Crowther seems to have picked up that mantle.'"
Some wally behind me on Monday had to be told for slating Crowther. Some idiots about in bank holiday sunshine
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