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| Dont think he will come to Hull as he doesnt like travelling.
Cant understand why but he chose Wakefield over Hull for this reason.
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| Where does BJB live now ???
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| Quote ="bonaire"Dont think he will come to Hull as he doesnt like travelling.
Cant understand why but he chose Wakefield over Hull for this reason.'"
I think you've stumbled on the answer there squire
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| It would be a surprising move by Radford IMO, who likes his wingers with power, saying that he has tried to signhim before (twice), offered more money at Salford and wanted to play FB at Wakey.
The downside of playing well, is you get noticed by other clubs, I'm not sure it's just about money, maybe at 28, he feels he would like to try and win something again.
Happened to us a few times when with the likes of Briscoe,Manu and Carvell who left Hull to win things and it worked out for them, hopefully we are in the position where players feel they have a good chance of winning things at Hull instead of Leeds and Warrington.
Your club is certainly moving in the right direction and if you can sort your ground out you may be in the position to keep these players.
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| Would be a real shame to see him go he has blossomed this year and looks faster than ever. If he's happy he should stay. Great player . 1st time in 20 year we have a team with speed we will get rid of them all i e. Bjb and miller yet keep Williams who is as fast as my aunt Penny who's 86
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Would be a real shame to see him go he has blossomed this year and looks faster than ever. If he's happy he should stay. Great player . 1st time in 20 year we have a team with speed we will get rid of them all i e. Bjb and miller yet keep Williams who is as fast as my aunt Penny who's 86'"
Polished your Crystal Ball this morning have we?
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| I hope Ben realises that there is more to life than taking the highest offer on the table and Wakefield's offer is acceptable..
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Would be a real shame to see him go he has blossomed this year and looks faster than ever. If he's happy he should stay. Great player . 1st time in 20 year we have a team with speed we will get rid of them all i e. Bjb and miller yet keep Williams who is as fast as my aunt Penny who's 86'"
Miller? where's he going then?
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| Quote ="Trinity1315"Miller? where's he going then?'"
Leigh....
that flying head butt tackle really impressed em, they want him to come and coach it..
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| Quote ="Upanunder"Leigh....
that flying head butt tackle really impressed em, they want him to come and coach it..
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Nah.....can't see it, Jacobs too good for the championship
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| Hope Arundel will advise BJB not to go to Hull.
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| Quote ="supercat"Hope Arundel will advise BJB not to go to Hull.'"
Why would he do that?
Arundel wasn't quite good enough for us, doesn't mean BJB wouldn't do well.
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| Or Miller?
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| Quote ="Mr Bliss"Or Miller?'"
Or Reece Lyne, there is a connection between these 3, they weren't quite good enough to be successful at Hull, let's be honest all 3 players have took some serious criticism on here in the past. Anyway just because it didn't work out, it doesn't mean they didn't enjoy their time at Hull, the two mentioned above certainly did well financially out of Hull and got good payouts despite under performing.
Do you think any of them are top 4 players?
Maybe it would be better to speak to other players who have signed, enjoyed it and been successful, Washbrook or Sneyd could be a good examples.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Would be a real shame to see him go he has blossomed this year and looks faster than ever. If he's happy he should stay. Great player . 1st time in 20 year we have a team with speed we will get rid of them all i e. Bjb and miller yet keep Williams who is as fast as my aunt Penny who's 86'"
You can never resist a dig can you
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| Quote ="Dave K."Or Reece Lyne, there is a connection between these 3, they weren't quite good enough to be successful at Hull, let's be honest all 3 players have took some serious criticism on here in the past. Anyway just because it didn't work out, it doesn't mean they didn't enjoy their time at Hull, the two mentioned above certainly did well financially out of Hull and got good payouts despite under performing.
Do you think any of them are top 4 players?
Maybe it would be better to speak to other players who have signed, enjoyed it and been successful, Washbrook or Sneyd could be a good examples.'"
Indeed
Although, I wouldn't put them in the top 4 category either.
It's all about how the team works and whether individuals fit into that dynamic.
Most SL players could play in a top 4 team, it doesnt mean that they have to be superstars.
In fact, the salary cap means that you cant have a team of stars.
You need grafters (like Washbrook) and some creative players, plus speed and a strong pack.
There are players in all of the top 4 that you might not want in your side but, they can all do a job for their coach.
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| Can't see why he would go to Hull he doesn't like films in Black and White he doesn't like travelling and he don't like fish.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Indeed
Although, I wouldn't put them in the top 4 category either.
It's all about how the team works and whether individuals fit into that dynamic.
Most SL players could play in a top 4 team, it doesnt mean that they have to be superstars.
In fact, the salary cap means that you cant have a team of stars.
You need grafters (like Washbrook) and some creative players, plus speed and a strong pack.
There are players in all of the top 4 that you might not want in your side but, they can all do a job for their coach.'"
Some fair points and a good post, it's all about fit and value for money, just because it didn't work out at Hull it doesn't mean they aren't right for Wakey or BJB won't work at Hull if it is to happen.
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| According to league express we have offered him a new contract that would make him our top earner
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"According to league express we have offered him a new contract that would make him our top earner'"
Do you think that is a good idea making a winger one of your top earners, look at Cas, have two solid wingers, but are made to look better because of the good players in the middle.
There are exceptions to the rule, with people like Fonua and Hall, but is BJB in that category, Johnstone could be another exception.
I also wonder is their has been any interest form us or is it just his agent doing his job to get the best deal for his client.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Do you think that is a good idea making a winger one of your top earners, look at Cas, have two solid wingers, but are made to look better because of the good players in the middle.
There are exceptions to the rule, with people like Fonua and Hall, but is BJB in that category, Johnstone could be another exception.
I also wonder is their has been any interest form us or is it just his agent doing his job to get the best deal for his client.'"
BJB is one of the (if not the) best finishers in the league, he can also create and finish his own tries from deep within his own half which the likes of Hall and Fonua can't do as they're simply not quick enough (Fonua was chased down the other week when he'd made an interception).
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| Quote ="Egg Banjo"BJB is one of the (if not the) best finishers in the league, he can also create and finish his own tries from deep within his own half which the likes of Hall and Fonua can't do as they're simply not quick enough (Fonua was chased down the other week when he'd made an interception).'"
You haven't seen enough of Fonua if you think he can't create his own trys, Fonua although not as quick as BJB, is still quick and has gone the full length a few times, if you watch the try you talk about back, he seems to stumble on about 20 metres out. Fonua is superb in the air and as strong as a prop, his metres and tackle busts will be one of not the best in the league.
I wouldn't swap Fonua for many other wingers in Sl, unfortunately for us his form hasn't gone unnoticed and will probably cut short his stay and be playing in the NRl next year.
If you think spending a big chunck of the salary cap on a winger is a good decision then fair enough, I'd rather spend it on a more pivotal position.
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| Quote ="Dave K."You haven't seen enough of Fonua if you think he can't create his own trys, Fonua although not as quick as BJB, is still quick and has gone the full length a few times, if you watch the try you talk about back, he seems to stumble on about 20 metres out. Fonua is superb in the air and as strong as a prop, his metres and tackle busts will be one of not the best in the league.
I wouldn't swap Fonua for many other wingers in Sl, unfortunately for us his form hasn't gone unnoticed and will probably cut short his stay and be playing in the NRl next year.
If you think spending a big chunck of the salary cap on a winger is a good decision then fair enough, I'd rather spend it on a more pivotal position.'"
I agree Dave, especially as we don't spend full cap as it is
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| Quote ="Dave K."Do you think that is a good idea making a winger one of your top earners, look at Cas, have two solid wingers, but are made to look better because of the good players in the middle.
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I also wonder is their has been any interest form us or is it just his agent doing his job to get the best deal for his client.'"
IF BJB was to become Wakefield's top earner, it would open the door for all of our three quarters and maybe some others, to go knocking at Mr Carter's door wanting more money.
I like BJB and his finishing has been top drawer this season.
Having said that, Johnstone, Caton Brown and even Lyne (before his injury) have all been scoring some great tries and for clubs like Trinity, it has to be about more than just pound notes and we dont want any players holding the club to ransom (and I'm not saying that Bishop is doing this).
Playing every week in a successful side should be good enough for all but the very, very best players and after moving out of Headingley, due to lack of game time and away from Salford, you would hope that playing at TRinity would be a decent gig for most players.
Everyone at Trinity would want the lad to stay so, lets just hope this is a journo in need of something to write.
Also, it's just possible that the club knew that he may want out and perhaps that is why we signed MCB ??
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"
Also, it's just possible that the club knew that he may want out and perhaps that is why we signed MCB ??'"
I think this is true but at that time BJB was nothing special. He's recently hit a rich vein of form, hence the vultures are circling. This new contract may well be a long term deal that equates to a big cummulative sum rather than a record per season?
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