I know we have only heard one side of the story, but it all sounds plausible to me. MC is adamant that he will not spend money he does not have and that is the only route a club like ours can take. It probably means we will be mediocre/dire unless we can get a truly inspirational coach to get more than the best out of this group of players and try and pick up better ones as and when we can.
This will only get us so far, we still need that sugar daddy to come in. All we can do is hang on until that person arrives. I know its pretty crap, but Id rather be bottom of Super League than out of it.

Smew said "I know we have only heard one side of the story, but it all sounds plausible to me. MC is adamant that he will not spend money he does not have and that is the only route a club like ours can take. It probably means we will be mediocre/dire unless we can get a truly inspirational coach to get more than the best out of this group of players and try and pick up better ones as and when we can.
This will only get us so far, we still need that sugar daddy to come in. All we can do is hang on until that person arrives. I know its pretty crap, but Id rather be bottom of Super League than out of it.

This is spot on, how any-one can think about dropping down a league to "rebuild" are crazy imo. Bring on the next coach...surely to god we will hit the jackpot some-time....also without Mr. Carter etc where on earth do people think we would be? I'm sure B. Smith was well aware of our situation, for some reason he doesn't fancy the gig any more !!!!

Excellent post cocker, couldn't agree more.
The only problem is retaining the fan base (income) whilst we're languishing in (or very close to) the wooden spoon position.

I may of missed it but MC did not give a reason why they no longer got on. I presume if Smith is going to say anything it will be when he returns to Australia. I know many of you return to the same well with regards MC' he saved the club, he put his house as collateral and he returned us to financial stability which is true but he must also look to move us forward.
In over a year we have only won 4 games against super league opposition and we are now looking for our 4th coach so it's one game per coach. We are now facing a period of instability followed by another coach who will want to probably look to sign his type of player meaning more uncertainty.

Well it's the chicken and the egg again Scarlet P.....we cannot spend more than we have (like it or not). I cannot believe that B. Smith was unaware of our situation, I do think it looks like he did't have the heart or the fight for our situation.
What do people think of the rumour of Rowley coming along with Brierley ?.....A young coach who performed great in the Championship,apart from the middle eights but I think the rot had started to set in at Leigh back then.

Although Leigh were a their best against lower Championship opposition, they played some very attractive stuff and score some excellent tries.
Ok they came unstuck against the "big boys" but, Rowley is the type of up and coming coach that may suit us but, our budget might be less than Leigh were spending plus, without offloading plays, can we afford to bring in n new players

Two minds about Rowely.

it'd be nice to see some decent attacking rugby at BV again.

But the downside is the thuggish antics in defence.

To be honest Wilzay I think our defence could do with a bit of Thuggery !!!We are without doubt the softest team going. I think Rowley would be good for us...( I think) .....

I understand where your coming from Willzay, but a lot of teams play the same so if you can't beat em join em.

Has Rowley got the skills to get the likes of Scruton growing a pair?

Carters got you all eating out of his hand again, I wouldn't believe owt he says I know the blokes told lies , he loves the limelight his rugby league knowledge is nowt, anyone who puts dickens in charge,and talks in raptures about one season wonder kirmond and the talks about better quality players toupo I'll give but ben jones bishop , don't think he's as good as my hero mathers

You clearly have a dislike for MC but I think he's doing ok.
Not many would have taken our club on. He's put thousands of his own money into the club got it now, probably the best run club in SL. Works hard with CB and others and his reward......?

Like I say he's got you eating out of his hand

MC is probably doing the best he can with the money that is at his disposal for the club but 'best run club in SL'? I don't think so. Balanced books yes good job well done by the sounds of it...little if no reward for him unfortunately but he knew that when he took it up and may now like to walk away if he got the opportunity.

Best run club....I said on another thread the ground is a shambles at the East Stand with it looking like a building site as you walk down the side of that part of the ground. In terms of new business sponsors that have been recently attracted to the club they will not be impressed or potentially come back when they are taking their corporate clients to their sponsored match. It's those potential bigger investors the club needs to pull in more as well as 'Joe public'.

That area of the ground now also looks like a fire risk with little exit points away from the East Stand...

I spoke to Brian Smith in Sainsbury's in January I asked if he would be here after this season and he said that he didn't even know if he would be here this season. He told me he didn't feel the club was run right and everything was frustrating him. He said the player group were great and he couldn't ask more from them. But things like not putting any heating in dressing rooms and making the players go in their own cars to Fev as a coach would cost too much isn't fair on the players.

I didn't want to post this however everyone seems to think good pay and higher player budget means the coach is in the wrong. But to me Brians Smith was right behind his players and felt these penny pinching measures were unacceptable.

I guess some things come at a cost but whats done is done. We have just started the season and we still have a long time to go. Lets get behind the club despite our beliefs and opinions. Would MC really want us to do so bad? I doubt it, he has put a lot of effort into the club and is learning everyday. Now is the time to stick together and do as little as we can (turning up to the games whether its one or all of them, etc).

I have just listened to the press conference and to be honest I am very impressed with MC- the only other time I have heared him speak was after the Million Pound Game (not much mc news in oz)=- and again he impressed me!

He is up front with what the club has and what it needs- and I believe he will tell any incoming coach exactly the score before he signs- he has turned our books around and is doing a fair job (great JOB if he gets us playing in a new stadium or redevelop BV) - AND THE BEST THING IS HE HAS THE CLUB AT HEART..

to be fair to him we are in the best position we can be with what we have- we wont go any further until somebody puts more money in.

As for BS (I want to go harder but wont) - see ya later little man syndrome -your childish actinics outdated coaching and your non player management skills are not welcome at a club like wakey- tell your story walking!!!!!


MC if you read this Geoff Toovey will come for at least the end of the year get on the blower!!!

TWADDLE

I was only saying what he told me.

What did he say about some of the players pinching a living? Was he behind that?

Heating in the dressing rooms!!
Maybe M C should of hired Laurence Llewelyn~Bowen to come along and pick out some nice fabric and match it up to a nice colour scheme... Nothing too harsh.. Just enough to get everyone in the right frame of mind on match day!

Ha Ha brilliant reply !!!! Nearly choked on my cuppa.....

Believe what you like we talked about two players but I can't be d with this to be honest. I don't care if you believe this happened or not. people will think what they want and if you think this is made up I don't care. We did talk and he did say this but there are so many people in the know they will no doubt make up what really happened. I hope he does make a statement when he gets home. I'm not anti Carter he is doing the best he can and if he doesn't want to over spend and is watch cost fair enough it's his club and money and he stands to lose more if we fail.

But I was relaying what I was told. Its Twaddle so even though there was more said no point saying anymore.

Toovey to Wakefield?