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| IMHO the likes of Bracek and Ostick in NL would be better in a Wakey shirt than Korki and Moore...If its true what i have heard on another thread that Moore is playing injured...well Kear needs to drop him as soon as poss...All good offering your hand up to play but if your not right you shouldnt be in the team for ne...
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Quote ="very red robin"Not our worse player, but certainly not our best.
Can offload and has got good handling skills, with a bit more grunt he could become a good player.
Only reason hes gone down at HKR is that we signed Clinton, and that our youngster Watts has come on enormously and taken his place.'"
I honestly can't see where you've got this can offload malarky and good ball handling statement from. Scott is a no nonsense prop forward, who'll come on put in a shift both in attack and defence. A solid grafter and one who'd i'd like us to keep at rovers given his form in the last 6-8 weeks even though his gametime is down alot from last year.
But an offloader and ball handler he is not
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010
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Quote ="very red robin"Not our worse player, but certainly not our best.
Can offload and has got good handling skills, with a bit more grunt he could become a good player.
Only reason hes gone down at HKR is that we signed Clinton, and that our youngster Watts has come on enormously and taken his place.'"
I honestly can't see where you've got this can offload malarky and good ball handling statement from. Scott is a no nonsense prop forward, who'll come on put in a shift both in attack and defence. A solid grafter and one who'd i'd like us to keep at rovers given his form in the last 6-8 weeks even though his gametime is down alot from last year.
But an offloader and ball handler he is not
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010
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Quote ="MrPhilb"I honestly can't see where you've got this can offload malarky and good ball handling statement from. Scott is a no nonsense prop forward, who'll come on put in a shift both in attack and defence. A solid grafter and one who'd i'd like us to keep at rovers given his form in the last 6-8 weeks even though his gametime is down alot from last year.
But an offloader and ball handler he is not
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010'"
Happy with this a grafter is def what we need...
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Quote ="MrPhilb"I honestly can't see where you've got this can offload malarky and good ball handling statement from. Scott is a no nonsense prop forward, who'll come on put in a shift both in attack and defence. A solid grafter and one who'd i'd like us to keep at rovers given his form in the last 6-8 weeks even though his gametime is down alot from last year.
But an offloader and ball handler he is not
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010'"
Happy with this a grafter is def what we need...
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| JK on Radio Leeds says we definitely have NOT signed Wheeldon. May as well 'lock it'
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| Quote ="pyeman"Think you will find that he is a cas academy product mate.'" And I think you will also find is on our homegrown list.
So technically(sp) he was right
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| Quote ="PHe"JK on Radio Leeds says we definitely have NOT signed Wheeldon. May as well 'lock it''"
might that be because of the the anti-tampering deadline farce that means you cannot technically sign another clubs player until september??? Don't know mind, did kear say he wasn't interested????
I'd agree with PhilB that he is an honest grafter of a prop, we would have liked to keep him but what with the salary cap we have priorites elsewhere in the squad, most people I reckon would think its a shame he is leaving but there is not the mass wringing of hands over here about it, if you do sign him that might give you a pointer on what type of player he is.
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| Quote ="PHe"JK on Radio Leeds says we definitely have NOT signed Wheeldon. May as well 'lock it''"
Maybe we have and Kear doesn't know about it cos he isnt going to be coach next season (well we can but hope)
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| No better than what we have and he'll soon be turned on, nowt against the bloke, seems a decent player and a grafter, all the things we keep hearing are not good enough for us
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Quote ="MrPhilb"I honestly can't see where you've got this can offload malarky and good ball handling statement from. Scott is a no nonsense prop forward, who'll come on put in a shift both in attack and defence. A solid grafter and one who'd i'd like us to keep at rovers given his form in the last 6-8 weeks even though his gametime is down alot from last year.
But an offloader and ball handler he is not
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010'"
Thats because Morgan seems to coach it out of people; if youve seen him play in his more youthful days (yes i know hes still young) then you wouldnt agree with your statement.
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Quote ="MrPhilb"I honestly can't see where you've got this can offload malarky and good ball handling statement from. Scott is a no nonsense prop forward, who'll come on put in a shift both in attack and defence. A solid grafter and one who'd i'd like us to keep at rovers given his form in the last 6-8 weeks even though his gametime is down alot from last year.
But an offloader and ball handler he is not
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010'"
Thats because Morgan seems to coach it out of people; if youve seen him play in his more youthful days (yes i know hes still young) then you wouldnt agree with your statement.
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| Quote ="very red robin"Thats because Morgan seems to coach it out of people; if youve seen him play in his more youthful days (yes i know hes still young) then you wouldnt agree with your statement.'"
I see what you mean, he managed 10 offloads in his 3 seasons and 56 appearances at Hull FC. Before Morgan managed to coach it out of his game
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"I see what you mean, he managed 10 offloads in his 3 seasons and 56 appearances at Hull FC. Before Morgan managed to coach it out of his game
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Each to there own i suppose, i dont look at stats; i use what little knowledge i have and what ive seen and make my own judgement.
Suppose i should start
P.S. 40 games - 4 offloads. 56 games - 10 offloads. Look at percentage; its been coached out of him gradually....
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| Chev Walker anyone? Typical Trinity signing.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Chev Walker anyone? Typical Trinity signing.'"
Don't even joke about it - we have enough injury prone has beens
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Don't even joke about it - we have enough injury prone has beens'"
To be fair a compound fracture hardly makes a player injury prone does it??
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| Quote ="nakb"To be fair a compound fracture hardly makes a player injury prone does it??'"
Its clearly a serious injury and one I would imagine is likely to make him more prone to leg injuries in the future.
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| Quote ="nakb"To be fair a compound fracture hardly makes a player injury prone does it??'"
No but prior to it he managed to play in only 31 Super League Matches out of 55 Suggests he is.
In fact in his 3 seasons at Hull KR he will of missed 53 out of a possible 84 games come the end of this season.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Its clearly a serious injury and one I would imagine is likely to make him more prone to leg injuries in the future.'"
That could be said of any injury, that a person is more prone to injuring that part of their body again. If that was the case then it is fair to say that many players would have had to retire well before their careers would naturally end. Just look at JD he suffered a neck injury came back just as strong and to my knowledge has had no further injuries like that and I think it is fair to say that a neck injury can lead to far more problems in life than a leg in jury. Nobody ever became paralysed from breaking a leg.
So why not take a punt on Walker, given the compound fracture he suffered, he would be less likely to command the same kind of money as before the incident.
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"No but prior to it he managed to play in only 31 Super League Matches out of 55 Suggests he is.
In fact in his 3 seasons at Hull KR he will of missed 53 out of a possible 84 games come the end of this season.'"
You can find players all over the rugby league who may have played only a percentage of games compared to what the could have played. Sean Long missed almost a full season when he was taken off the ball (by Costin) playing for Saints. Paul Deacon was out for sometime after the headshot he received playing against New Zealand. Does that make those two examples injury prone, doubtful.
You can throw as many stats in as you like, but as somebody once said (I think it was Stuart Raper) stats are like mini skirts, they let you see some things but hide the good stuff.
How many of those 53 games have been missed due to the compound fracture? and if not for the that freakish accident how would possibly have been missed?
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| I think the only realistic way forward for Wakefield is to look to the loan markets for 2011.
There are many many quality players ready for SL at some clubs who are not getting a chance, and teams are only too eager to loan them out under the right circumstances.
A couple of new faces and a good foray into the loan market could really freshen up Trinity in the short term, something that I feel is desperately needed while the future long term is being sorted out.
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| Quote ="nakb"You can find players all over the rugby league who may have played only a percentage of games compared to what the could have played. Sean Long missed almost a full season when he was taken off the ball (by Costin) playing for Saints. Paul Deacon was out for sometime after the headshot he received playing against New Zealand. Does that make those two examples injury prone, doubtful.
You can throw as many stats in as you like, but as somebody once said (I think it was Stuart Raper) stats are like mini skirts, they let you see some things but hide the good stuff.
How many of those 53 games have been missed due to the compound fracture? and if not for the that freakish accident how would possibly have been missed?'"
Chev has missed 25 games so far due to the leg injury and the subsequent infections. We have at least 4 more games which he will miss taking the total to 29 missed since the injury.
As I said he missed 24 of the 55 super league games prior to this with a mixture of Shoulder, Wrist, and shin complaints.
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| Quote ="Wildthing"lol? LOLZ, LMAO, ROFL.
How old are you?
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FFS what is it with Cas at the mo????, we have s (a few ok!) in the stadium and some more on here now, Jesus.
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"No but prior to it he managed to play in only 31 Super League Matches out of 55 Suggests he is.
In fact in his 3 seasons at Hull KR he will of missed 53 out of a possible 84 games come the end of this season.'"
Thanks MrPhilb. Pretty much proves my point
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| I think that is an excellent point and something the club should be looking at.
Clubs like Wigan and Leeds have big squads and good academy players so why not take there youngsters on loan and give them a chance.
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There are many many quality players ready for SL at some clubs who are not getting a chance, and teams are only too eager to loan them out under the right circumstances.
A couple of new faces and a good foray into the loan market could really freshen up Trinity in the short term, something that I feel is desperately needed while the future long term is being sorted out.'"
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| Quote ="CasFanFromFev"FFS what is it with Cas at the mo????, we have s (a few ok!) in the stadium and some more on here now, Jesus.'"
There are some decent Cas fans though. Welcome aboard!
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