=#8040FFAll 3 go to the train station at Glasshoughton, so it's a pretty handy station for a Rugby ground.

Do I have this right. WMDC's position is now that they will throw the weight of the 2 pieces of land behind one stadium only (rather than their previous position of splitting the land to support both stadiums). They will decide which of the 2 plans they will throw it behind based on a feasibility study. The club with the unfeasible stadium are left with a share or go it alone situation.

Gloating already are we?

Regardless of whether he has shares, or not, Box is a Cas fan.

If I was the leader of the Council, I too would be biased, it’s human nature.

But he can never be impartial due to his allegiance to the club he supports, perhaps he will have a statue of himself commissioned, with a big smirk on one of his faces.

The shares are not that important, it's the fact that he is a self confessed lifelong supporter of the Castleford club!
If he had any integrity he would realise that he cannot be impartial or emotionally detached from the issues which will affect the future of that club and would step aside. The fact that he isn't doing so suggests that he has an agenda and wishes to steer events in the direction HE would like them to go in.

=#8000FFOr, if you look at it from a neutral point of view, if you compared both sites:

Better road links? Glasshoughton
Better rail links? Glasshoughton
Better commercial area? Glasshoughton
Furthest along in development? Glasshoughton
Least objectors? Glasshoughton

From the councils point of view, it would be much less hassle, and much better financially, commercially and in terms of less opposition, Glasshoughton is the only choice they can look at.

The fact Box is a Cas fan is nothing to do with it, the fact is the Council has just lost 70m thanks to idiots voting for "Dave" and has left them with NO option but to go with the one stadium that is much better in terms of everything mentioned.

Did Wakefield council not bail out Wakey when they sold you the ground for a pound ! How much did that 1 pound bet earn you

Surely if both clubs are sharing the 1 stadium then why the need to offer 2 licences, surely there is only the need to give out the 1 licence. I hate the licencing system but it would seem to make no sence to me to dish out 2 licences to clubs playing out of the same stadium

After reading through the 21 pages, can i just check i have got this right,

The council have given us both land up to the value of £2mil
Planning permission permitted, we can deliver our project and have the funds to do so (allowing for the £2m given)
Cas have planning permission but dont have the funds to complete at this moment in time.

If thats so than surely its a no brainer?? Unless our funds are in question??

For whats its worth, for me a groundshare would mean 1 of 2 things. Either eventually a merged team or at the very least 1 side playing in the NL in a nice shiney stadium, this been the side that is seen as the tennant and i doubt that side would see SL again.
I cant for 1 minute see the RFL (who are all for expanding the game) letting 2 teams into SL that are so close together and share a ground when there are other sides with there own stadia crying out for a place.
All of a sudden (and i never thought id say this) im wishing that we still had Belle Vue to fall back on. Atleast if we go down we would still have our own ground (in Wakey) to play at.

=#8040FFThis is just something Wakefield fans like to think when in fact the funding is there, hence 175k going to architects for plans. The "lack of funding" is just something fabricated by a Wakey or Fev fan on here and has pretty much zero substance.

No Funding and almost all avenues of immediately securing funding exhausted! Glasshoughton.

I know you've been off on one regarding the Newmarket funding package but as I said in an earlier post, the funding is identified via York Court, What remains of the funds from the sale of Belle Vue and various grants that have already been tested for successful securing of the funds available.

=#8000FFAs I just said in a previous post, that is a myth and Cas do have the money and the no money myth is just something Wakey fans are clinging onto with everything they have.

Where's Cas's funding coming from?

So who has told you we have no funding? Have you heard that directly or is that hearsay on here?

It is pretty obvious to me that neither has the full amount of money or the council wouldn't be contemplating a groundshare, simples.

If Wakefield had identified all of the money and over it AND SECURED it, then the council could take back the original piece of land offered and give it to Cas.

Anyway, it's pretty fruitless us going over old ground. It serves no purpose and ultimatey, it won't be us making the decision.

not looking good this for either of us frankly.

I dont like the bit about identified grants we can bid for etc, since this new govt they have more or less disappeared, especially capital grants, see BSF etc.

To be honest I can see a feasability study saying neither is buildable and / or sustainable, thought that for a while but decided against posting it as i would get lynched.

But you've just said you don't need it

Thats about the size of it, IMO they have no right to go back on the agreement unless they are willing to refund any costs incurred by all parties.

Could well be we've been walked down the garden path and thrown in a puddle




Its not over till the large lady sings.

Didn't want to get to involved in this just yet but that is a reckless and biased post. Talk about I'm alright Jack.

Better road links? Both identical, both are slip roads of the M62, what are you talking about
Better rail links? How many Wakey or Cas fans need a rail link, it is after all a stadium for Wakefield rate payers.
Better commercial area? What has this got to do with anything?
Furthest along in development? In your dreams.
Least objectors? Glasshoughton, agreed but the objections to Newmarket are pretty limited.

As for hassle for the Council, both are privately funded other than the land for security issue so where is the hassle greater on one than the other?

You're grasping at straws, again.

Truth is, both are feasible if Box plays it fair - big chance of that happening.

Good post I was about to say the same myself. I think Newmarket certainly beats Glasshoughton for traffic as the ESCAPE and Freeport will be there can you imagine the traffic 6000+ rugby fans watching a match and freeport shoppers and Escape what many familys go for a day out. Newmarket would win hands down on that front.

=#8000FFHow many roads go INTO Newmarket?



=#8000FFAway fans, or are they not allowed to come to games anymore?

not to mention a lot of home fans go to games by train.



=#8040FFSPONSORS, if you haven't noticed, now a days in RL, teams have writing and logos on the kits, advertising company's in return for money, having a stadium next to the 2nd most visited visitor attraction in the UK will enhance potential sponsorship deals.



=#8000FFObjectors, Newmarket possibly getting called in for Government review etc, none of this would happen at Glasshoughton



=#8000FFSounds a hell of a lot like you're clutching at straws, but I expect nothing else from you.

Both MIGHT be feasible, but only if Leeds council don't get their way with the kicking & screaming about Newmarket.




=#8000FF5 roads into the area, 3 of which have 2 lanes so 9 lanes for traffic, that is a lot of road for people to get in, what is ESCAPE? and Freeport for that matter?

There have already been the road studies, with the new road being put in diverting traffic there will be far less traffic jams then you are trying to make out, but as I remember one of the main complaints about Newmarket is...traffic.

if cas have the money why havent they started building yet and why have they come out this morning(seen on sky sports news)that they back the plan to ground share surley since they already have planning permission and has you say they have the money why would they need to back the ground share

Have you seen the plans for Newmarket ???? I don't think so you have obviously not seen the link roads to the ground and also a free park and ride bus service its perfect.

I dont know if they bought out wakefield but i certainly remember the £1.00 ground selling exercise, but that wont be relevant here as it does'nt suit the slant of this thread plus i dont think the wildcats like to talk about it.

Vastman wrote:



1) Newmarket has 1 road in - Glasshoughton has 2 roads each from seperate Motorway junctions 32 and 31

2) Glasshougton has a Railway Station on the door step 5 min walk away (Lots of away supporters travel by rail) - Newmarket has no rail link

So how are both identical?



1) Glasshoughton has outline planning permission and will get full permission

2) Newmarket will be lucky to get any permission and if it does it will be too late for WTW but Yorkcourt will be happy.



I think it's you grasping at straws!