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| That is essentially correct Clan.
It does also move for more power to local consensus on large scale projects. Communities could veto projects to protect green space. On the face of it our opponents could be licking their lips, but they'd be wrong IMO when it comes to this case.
IMO the case for a community stadium is one we can all agree on. There have been numerous studies, some by WT, others by WMDC.
The same for locations, let's not forget that NM was named as a potential site in the feasibility study for Thornes years ago. Then there are much more recent studies which have been done in conjunction with our OPP, this site IMO has been proven to be the best for such a project in our district.
Then let's think about the 15,000 petition, which was done on the back of the need for such a facility, yes opponents will say that it failed to mention the "true nature" of the site. But IMO if you had asked every person who signed the vast majority would happily accept the whole concept in the process of acquiring a new home. So IMO any claim of a lack of validity on the part of the petition is false (& very insulting to those who worked so hard to make it the success it was!).
The people of Wakefield have spoken on mass on this issue, the council have acted, the logic of "localism" says the government will not only allow this but encourage it. In fact localism IMO end's the days of the "nosey neighbours" such as our friends in Methley. Why should anyone outside our region have any say?? Are we not best to decide for ourselves, as they are for themselves?
Localism only gives local groups greater powers to object to plans in their own area. Unless Mrs. Fender wants to start forwarding her council tax to WMDC I think she should mind her own business, and leave Wakefield to mind ours!
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| The true nature anyone would think we are talking about the bloody amazon rainforest or the killamangaro mountains its a old bloody pit site with 6 residents there the most nature you would see is the odd pickey trying to steal a pigeon.
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| Funny how a cas fan can get such inside info as that. Its hardly tittle tattle rugby gossip. Ill believe it when i see it
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| ha ha another cas person talking tripe
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| I even got a couple of shout out's on their board!!!
What they don't get is I revel in it!!
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How do we know he isn't right? It seems quite a bold statement.
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How do we know he isn't right? It seems quite a bold statement.
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| I will be amazed if he is right and totally let down by our new goverment .
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Not saying he is right, sure we will find out soon enough. However, if he is, its just typical of our luck.
With all the noises coming out of the Govt about the private sector having to take up the slack, you would have thought as some have said before that Newmarket was an example of what they were looking at, and would be passed back.
Lets hope if he is right that Plan B is a good one and that the outcome of the PI is a positive one, cos if we manage to retain a franchise based on Plan B, I doubt we can afford plan B forever.
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Not saying he is right, sure we will find out soon enough. However, if he is, its just typical of our luck.
With all the noises coming out of the Govt about the private sector having to take up the slack, you would have thought as some have said before that Newmarket was an example of what they were looking at, and would be passed back.
Lets hope if he is right that Plan B is a good one and that the outcome of the PI is a positive one, cos if we manage to retain a franchise based on Plan B, I doubt we can afford plan B forever.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"How do we know he isn't right? It seems quite a bold statement.'"
He does seem very confident about his info,hope he's wrong.Barnsley anyone?
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| I'd rather hear it from the organ grinder than the monkey
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| If this guy is correct then I am sure the powers that be in your club (Including TRB) would also know.
It is a bold statement and I can only think he may have contact at the Regional Office.
I will believe it when it is official
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| This seems like a very similar statement that some schit stirring rsole Pmd to a number of forum members last week.
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FROM GOVERNMENT PLANNING WEBSITE.
"Planning permission for Newmarket is set to be called in due to an official complaint from Leeds Council Planning department.
The Announcement which will grant outline permission for a a much smaller development will be made on December 15th on the Wakefield Council Website"'"
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| If it goes to a PI then were screwed and down n out, all these people saying it'll be this week, it'll be tomorrow, it's got to happen because of x,y and Z havent the foggiest as to whats happening and they'll make their decision when and for what reasons when they want to, where not just building an extension on a corner shop here.
I know why you're saying this is to keep the Dean alive and justify the delay but the fact is none of us know bugger all.
Now I hope townville tiger is as wring as the next man but he could well be right; keep stum please non of your opinions help as to the decision of this group of individuals even with knowledge experience and contacts.
Anyone got a tissue?! :'(
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| Here is another little gem posted by TownvilleTiger:
Quote ="townvilletiger"Quote ="Outwood tiger"
Great post mate, i totally agree, how can they justify the scale of this development its obscene, but i fear with that port swilling cigar smoking fat boy Walker involved that he will be pressuring people like Pickles etc and might get this pushed through. Wakefield Council are too spineless to say no to the Trinity linch mobs and so have let someone else make the decision for them so they look rosy even if it gets knocked back, but beware of the sinister Mr Walker, he travels in powerful circles and until he jumps ship there is a real danger of this going through.'"
I woudn't be too concerned with what the wakey fans say, or even waste your time winding them up (or in most cases putting across a valid argument), they don't want to listen. They just follow their so called forum messiahs and post incorrect tripe about planning etc. on their forum.
The point is if you're a wakey fan the development as a whole is the best thing since sliced bread, if you're a realist you can obviously see this development is immensely flawed and most of all wrong as the land is 100% greenbelt / greenfield, even if it was a former colliery, the land was reclaimed as greenbelt.
The more you delve into the publicly available information connected to yorkcourt, wakefield trinity, wakefield council, individual councillors the more corruptness you see. All parties involved have a long long way to go and a hell of a lot to lose.'"
[size=150 =#BF0000sound like anyone we know?[/size
the clue is in her schizophrenic way of patting herself on the back and congratulating a previous post she made
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| Quote ="The Clan"This seems like a very similar statement that some schit stirring rsole Pmd to a number of forum members last week.
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I suspect you may be right. This person has his own little agenda, and it's an easy call to make. Toss a coin - guess right and you take all the plaudits, guess wrong and you take your user and your 6 posts and slide quietly back into oblivion.
We'll all find out in good time and through the proper channels.
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| Could this be correct... yes!
Could this be rubbish... yes!
Do I 100% trust a poster on a Cas only board with 7 posts to his name, every single one of them putting down the development... no! Looking at some of their other posts there are clear factual holes in their knowledge of the process, but that does not stop them from knowing some in the government office and this being 100% true! Whatever the decision, I am very sceptical this person has any inside knowledge and it is easy to make these bold statements with 7 posts to your name on what is sort of a 50/50 chance (if you know what I mean) of being correct. I think we might know this person on this board but I won't go and throw some names around this time, because I mucked it up last time and I really can't be bothered! So what I am saying, if they are proved right or wrong, is that I don't believe they know anything at all!
'We' don't know anything and to make it clear to everyone 'we' have never claimed we do, I think the chances of any news being leaked prior to Wakefield MDC being notified are slim, this isn't Wikileaks scale of news here guys!
Lets just see... it could be June Fender taking offence at my joke about her sticking her head in the oven if they don't get the news they desire!
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"I suspect you may be right. This person has his own little agenda, and it's an easy call to make. Toss a coin - guess right and you take all the plaudits, guess wrong and you take your user and your 6 posts and slide quietly back into oblivion.
We'll all find out in good time and through the proper channels.'"
Spot on... put far more succinctly than me!
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| As IA puts it, it could be true and it could be bull$%^&.
I am not aware of the decision being imminent, in fact it doesn't fit at all with what I have been told, but the truth will come out in it's own good time.
Much like the rumours of player signings, some will be right, some will be wrong, but only the press release will confirm it.
I have asked the question and I await a reply.
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| Nothing is to be feared only understood.
Whatever happens we are Wakefield! Together we are stronger!
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| TRB - do you mean you believe the decision is not imminent yet, or the noises you are hearing are different to what Townville reckons. This is all so depressing.
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| [url=http://cominoweb.wakefield.gov.uk/Planning/lg/GFPlanningDocuments.page?org.apache.shale.dialog.DIALOG_NAME=gfplanningsearch&SDescription=10/00225/OUT&Param=lg.Planning&viewdocs=trueOhDear Oh Dear Oh Dear[/url
"The Secretary Of State is of the opinion that this application is one that he ought to decide himself because he considers that bthe proposals may conflict with national policies on important matters. The Sec retary of state accordingly directs, under his powers in the above 1990 act, that the application shall be referred to him instead of being dealt with by the council"
"To consider all the relevant aspects of the proposed development, the Secretary of State has decided to hold a local enquiry"
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| This is why I come on these boards.
Rumours from 'nobodys' etc often come true despite what 'in the know's', mods etc say.
They are often wrong but lots are true and if you want the latest news forums tend to provide it.
How long will this news take to get published officially?
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"Could this be correct... yes!
Could this be rubbish... yes!
Do I 100% trust a poster on a Cas only board with 7 posts to his name, every single one of them putting down the development... no! Looking at some of their other posts there are clear factual holes in their knowledge of the process, but that does not stop them from knowing some in the government office and this being 100% true! Whatever the decision, I am very sceptical this person has any inside knowledge and it is easy to make these bold statements with 7 posts to your name on what is sort of a 50/50 chance (if you know what I mean) of being correct. I think we might know this person on this board but I won't go and throw some names around this time, because I mucked it up last time and I really can't be bothered! So what I am saying, if they are proved right or wrong, is that I don't believe they know anything at all!
'We' don't know anything and to make it clear to everyone 'we' have never claimed we do, I think the chances of any news being leaked prior to Wakefield MDC being notified are slim, this isn't Wikileaks scale of news here guys!
Lets just see... it could be June Fender taking offence at my joke about her sticking her head in the oven if they don't get the news they desire!
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I sort of owe this Townville character on my new favourite forum an apology! They did clearly know, but the possibility of it leaking from within Wakefield MDC to them (as I would speculate it probably did), as you can see from above, didn't cross my mind! Shame it fell into their hands and they went straight into gloat mode, so not sure they deserve anything more than this!
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