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| I'm starting to get used to this now.
I loved having a class player like Smith at Wakefield but like any asset you need to cash in at the right time.
If we'd kept him another year he would have just left for free.
The only new money around at the moment is the Docs money so if we don't take it there isn't any coming from elsewhere any time soon.
And we might as well have it as any other club.
As long as this solves the problem it might be better for us in the long run.
Puts a sad end to the season but its better at this stage so we have a whole off season to get used to it.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I'm starting to get used to this now.
I loved having a class player like Smith at Wakefield but like any asset you need to cash in at the right time.
If we'd kept him another year he would have just left for free.
The only new money around at the moment is the Docs money so if we don't take it there isn't any coming from elsewhere any time soon.
And we might as well have it as any other club.
As long as this solves the problem it might be better for us in the long run.
Puts a sad end to the season but its better at this stage so we have a whole off season to get used to it.'"
Under the circumstances i completly agree with this post
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| Quote ="El Rey"Under the circumstances i completly agree with this post
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Uh oh......I may have to reconsider now.
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| I am often accused of being too optimistic but the reality is that we are better off as a club today tha we were yesterday.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I am often accused of being too optimistic but the reality is that we are better off as a club today tha we were yesterday.'"
I am often accused of being a doom monger but in reality we are both the same, just different
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| Quote ="El Rey"I am often accused of being a doom monger but in reality we are both the same, just different
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I agree
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| Quote ="Mike Ehrmantraut"Just like to say that it's been an absolute pleasure reading your forum throughout this whole saga. You lot are gracious and class RL folk; a stark
contrast to the Cas fans who frequent our board. I wish you the very best for next season!'"
You are more than welcome and thanks for the good wishes.
Most Cas fans are fine people, it's just a few that spoil it.
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| Can I change my prediction for today? Wakey to beat Shudders?
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| Our problem is who is going to play 7 now Smith has gone ? Wildie for me is far better at 9.Goulding or Kaye ? we aint seen enough of them in SL games to know.Smith can be brilliant on attack then go missing at times and other games do nothing.Smith in defence is very poor especially one on one he could not tackle a good breakfast.We need a 7 who can when needed take the line on something Smith does not do so in the long run we might not miss Smith as much as some fear.It just might make the team better for it so chin up lads and lets get behind the side as we always do on match days.
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| Amazing what a difference 48 hours make.
Two days ago we were all jumping off bridges. Now we are having a love in and all agreeing what a great piece of business Mr Carter has done. Sounds like we were on the edge and drastic action needed to be taken. I say to all those that are grumbling, take your cheque books in to the club and pay some of our debts off if you want to keep your favorite players.
Despite what Mr Glover has brought us one thing he's certainly not brought is financial prudence. Yes it's frustrating that two year down the line we are struggling again and we may point fingers but in Mr Carter he has the guts to make a swift decision that perhaps Mr Glover and Jimmy couldn't stomach. He's saved us from the edge and we still have a club.
So lets get behind him the club and the team. It's tin hat time again and their may be some more bitter pills to swallow.
Last time we sold a star half back to Salford was Garen Casey and he did nothing when he got there so we will just have to wait and see.
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| Quote ="Jason"Amazing what a difference 48 hours make.
Two days ago we were all jumping off bridges. Now we are having a love in and all agreeing what a great piece of business Mr Carter has done. Sounds like we were on the edge and drastic action needed to be taken. I say to all those that are grumbling, take your cheque books in to the club and pay some of our debts off if you want to keep your favorite players.
Despite what Mr Glover has brought us one thing he's certainly not brought is financial prudence. Yes it's frustrating that two year down the line we are struggling again and we may point fingers but in Mr Carter he has the guts to make a swift decision that perhaps Mr Glover and Jimmy couldn't stomach. He's saved us from the edge and we still have a club.
So lets get behind him the club and the team. It's tin hat time again and their may be some more bitter pills to swallow.
Last time we sold a star half back to Salford was Garen Casey and he did nothing when he got there so we will just have to wait and see.'"
Because when we have all understood what has happened and read/listened to positive comments we all come to 1 in harmony
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| Quote ="The Dreadnought"Because when we have all understood what has happened and read/listened to positive comments we all come to 1 in harmony
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| Now the dust has settled and everyone is a lot clearer on what is happening. The statements about turning offers down for Kirmond are more reassuring. If we started to break our pack up, it wouldn't matter who we had in the halves, if your pack gets bullied, you backs can't do a thing. We have a great pack, that hopefully will allow Goulding, Kaye and Wilde to express themselves in the remaining 2 games.
Think you have to realise that this is the same Tim Smith that gets rubbished if we lose. If we had not sold him now, giving us breathing space til the start of next year to find a replacement and kept him. You can bet that 2 or 3 games into next season if we are struggling, the same people who are distraught at his departure, would be moaning that the club should have cashed Tim in when they had the chance!!
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| cant really understand why he would be sold with immediate effect ? what possible reason could there be that this was immediate ? thers only a couple of games left for both clubs and I doubt smith will play for Salford this year.....have I missed something ?
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| Yes you are- we needed the money immediately and also we now don't have to pay his wages!
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| Quote ="quinny"cant really understand why he would be sold with immediate effect ? what possible reason could there be that this was immediate ? thers only a couple of games left for both clubs and I doubt smith will play for Salford this year.....have I missed something ?'"
If he had have stayed until today then we would have been liable for his wages for another month. We needed him of the bill now.
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| Now I'm thinking less emotionally I wonder whether he wanted to go or whether we just sold him and he went for what he could.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Now I'm thinking less emotionally I wonder whether he wanted to go or whether we just sold him and he went for what he could.'"
From what i've been told he was happy here and had no desire to leave but was willing to to help the club out. He has got a payrise to ease his pain though which i'm sure helped make the decision easier!
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| Quote ="Theboyem"Quote ="PopTart"Now I'm thinking less emotionally I wonder whether he wanted to go or whether we just sold him and he went for what he could.'"
From what i've been told he was happy here and had no desire to leave but was willing to to help the club out. He has got a payrise to ease his pain though which i'm sure helped make the decision easier!'"
We took a punt on Tim as a gamble, the gamble has resurrected his career. He has given good service to the club and this move has allowed him to get some money for the club and come off the wage bill. Tim now has a chance to play in a team that maybe challenging for silverware before he hangs his boots up. Fair play to Tim and all the best. I for one will give him a clap and a cheer when he runs out against us next season.
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| Quote ="Trinity 61"Yes you are- we needed the money immediately and also we now don't have to pay his wages!'"
But you just cant stop paying a player on contract? its never straight forward with Wakefield is it...
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| Quote ="Wakefield No 1"But you just cant stop paying a player on contract? its never straight forward with Wakefield is it...'"
You can if you both agree to terminate the contract.
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| I know for a fact he didn't want to go. The money will help but the way Tims career has gone on and off the field, he is one player that I can safely say would happily stay somewhere he is happy and settled for a lot less money.
He wasnt given much option. We had the option of selling either Tim or DK and the club (rightly IMO) chose to lose Tim.
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| Quote ="Fritzys Mullet"I know for a fact he didn't want to go. The money will help but the way Tims career has gone on and off the field, he is one player that I can safely say would happily stay somewhere he is happy and settled for a lot less money.
He wasnt given much option. We had the option of selling either Tim or DK and the club (rightly IMO) chose to lose Tim.'"
This.
Whenever I spoke to Tim he said he loved it here. I hope some fans dont give him stick when we play him, he deserves our respect and has done us many favours which includes leaving the club for more money.
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| The transfer fee been banded around the social networking site last night was £220k, can't see it been that much myself.
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| I'd expect it to be his yearly contract, multiplied by the years left on the said contract.
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