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| Quote ="Roonaldo6"Exactly.'"
I might add that it would'nt be the first time..... I'm my own worst enemy at times!
Typical Yorkshire bloke who says whats on his mind sometimes to my own detriment but I won't change
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"BRING BACK JOHN HARBIN'"
Why, has he got 500k?
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"BRING BACK JOHN HARBIN'"
Exactly again...... His dad wouldnt have stood for all these shenanigans, and he would have vented it out in the press too.
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| Quote ="J.T"Why, has he got 500k?'"
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"BRING BACK JOHN HARBIN'"
Jesus Mopsey!
i can sympathise with your views sometimes but bl00dy Hell NOOOOOOO!
he was great for the one liners and PR stunts but you could'nt trust a word that came out of his mouth!
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| Quote ="The Clan"I might add that it would'nt be the first time..... I'm my own worst enemy at times!
Typical Yorkshire bloke who says whats on his mind sometimes to my own detriment but I won't change'"
should be fun when your commentating then!
most worrying aspect of it for me, not being able to say what im thinking!
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| Quote ="The Clan"but you could'nt trust a word that came out of his mouth!'"
Very similar to many of the current lot then.
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| Quote ="The Clan"Jesus Mopsey!
i can sympathise with your views sometimes but bl00dy Hell NOOOOOOO!
he was great for the one liners and PR stunts but you could'nt trust a word that came out of his mouth!'"
it was light hearted humour i at least enjoyed watching then
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"First laugh of the night.
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Not much to joke about.
Though raising 500k in less than a month isn't exactly a serious suggestion.
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| Quote ="chapster"should be fun when your commentating then!
most worrying aspect of it for me, not being able to say what im thinking!'"
do you know the players names weve that many well knowns
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| Quote ="J.T"Not much to joke about.
Though raising 500k in less than a month isn't exactly a serious suggestion.'"
No, but you have to take a laugh where you can find it at the moment, and that was a better place than most.
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"No, but you have to take a laugh where you can find it at the moment, and that was a better place than most.'"
Very true.
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"it was light hearted humour i at least enjoyed watching then'"
Phew!
I thought you were at the begginings of a movement!
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| excuse me, posted this a little earlier on another thread but it's worth sticking here as well
If it were to be met by 500 individuals putting in £1000 each the I agree that would be a mamoth task and almost impossible in a 4 week period.
However, I would imagine that there will be a number of individuals who might have the wherewithall to buy up a block of shares and there may be a number of people who can buy mor ethat 1.
We may not reach the target even then but consider this, if we the fans can get near to the figure required and in doing so demonstrate our commitment to the club then maybe just maybe that might give a potential new owner some confidence in our future.
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| Quote ="Jambon"Classic example of why this game and the RFL are bent and corrupt. The RFL should be made to expain their decisions.
There is no way Crusaders will be demoted whilst they owe that kind of money. It makes a mockery of the game. It is no longer a game of who is good enough to survive in SL. Its about who the RFL want there!'"
Don't forget though Crusaders have gone in and out of administration so therefore the 700k loan does not have to be repaid!!!!!
Much as I think all what Wakefield is going through at the moment has to benefit Cas I think what has happened with Cru is not morally right and they should now be the one's fighting for their future!!!
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"do you know the players names weve that many well knowns'"
i knw in true rl tradition all leeds players surnames are "lad"
schoey lad
robbie lad
dannie lad
kevin is just kevin but in a slightly camp voice
and jame peacock is Mr jamie peacock would you like a pint sir!
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| Excuse my poor attempt at humour but given your current plight coupled with your excellent playing surface, may I suggest the team come out to " Got 99 Problems but the pitch ain't one".
Coat, taxi etc.
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| Quote ="ParanoidAndroid"Excuse my poor attempt at humour but given your current plight coupled with your excellent playing surface, may I suggest the team come out to " Got 99 Problems but the pitch ain't one".
Coat, taxi etc.'"
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| Quote ="TRB"
More energy needs to be directed as to why the new Welsh club have a £700k loan from the RFL, yet we were refused £350k - even when granted security against the NM site.
I'm not quite sure how or when the club will reveal more details from last nights meeting, but I've set the ball rolling here - maybe prematurely - so the question is - are we willing to pay up to secure RL in Wakefield and, for all those Ted bashers, here is your chance!'"
I was just wondering how you could secure a loan against Newmarket when you do not own the site and will only be tenants. Am I reading it right that WTWC have already tried to secure loans against public community facilities?
I would also point out that their is a certain irony here. You would like the Soc to pass Newmarket despite much of the development been inappropriate, with regard current legislation, as you believe that it is for the good of the whole district, and as such the local residents(nimbys) would have to take hit for the greater good of the District and WTWC. Well in a sense the RFL believe the inclusion of the Crusaders at any cost is for the greater good of RL and as such are bending over backwards to accommodate them, leaving you to take the hit for the greater good of RL.
And finally can anybody answer my question about what would happen to Belle Vue if you went into administration.
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| Quote ="rugbyball"I was just wondering how you could secure a loan against Newmarket when you do not own the site and will only be tenants. Am I reading it right that WTWC have already tried to secure loans against public community facilities?
I would also point out that their is a certain irony here. You would like the Soc to pass Newmarket despite much of the development been inappropriate, with regard current legislation, as you believe that it is for the good of the whole district, and as such the local residents(nimbys) would have to take hit for the greater good of the District and WTWC. Well in a sense the RFL believe the inclusion of the Crusaders at any cost is for the greater good of RL and as such are bending over backwards to accommodate them, leaving you to take the hit for the greater good of RL.
And finally can anybody answer my question about what would happen to Belle Vue if you went into administration.'"
I'n not sure but I believe that the ground has already been sold and the monies have been drawn down and used (!!) so effectively apart from a blow up pussy the club does not have any assests. I stand to be corrected though.
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| Quote ="The Trip"I'n not sure but I believe that the ground has already been sold and the monies have been drawn down and used (!!) so effectively apart from a blow up pussy the club does not have any assests. I stand to be corrected though.'"
You could be right however I believe the public line is that they have only recieved 50% of the value. I do find it strange that the people with connections at the club are not answering this question.
I would also like to say on the subject of the crusaders that, when teams were exempt from relegation, thus allowing them constants access to the sky money at the detriment of others, this was the thin end of the wedge, and people voted for it at the time and have not had an issue whilst cocooned within a 3 year franchise.
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| Quote ="Sandal Cat"
I personally would like the see some form of incentive given to new shareholders to enourage the purchase of shares. Not thought it through yet but say for an investment of £1,000 you be given in addition to your 1000 shares say a season ticket at Newmarket for a period of time so that you feel that you are getting something tangible as well as shares.'"
Someone may have listened to you
Quote ="Your club site"When the figure of £500,000 is reached a Shareholders meeting will take place and you will have the opportunity to nominate and vote a new Board to run the club going forward
· First option to pick your seat at the Newmarket Stadium, with exclusive Season membership packages for Share holders
· Exclusive access to the shareholders supporter bar at Newmarket Stadium
· Invitation to an exclusive Stadium tour for Share holders at Newmarket before the stadium opens'"
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| Id be interested to know exactly what assurances the rfl, sl and the stadium developers were giving to the previous potential investors. If they were told what they are will the potential new investors?
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| Quote ="TRB"You are correct - there is a share option available and details will be sent out to all existing shareholders imminently. The gist is - are there 500 people willing to invest £1k to raise £500k and re-capitalise the club - by the 31st January. If that can be achieved - the BoD will resign en masse and offer new people the opportunity to step forward and take over the running of the club.
The money would be paid into an ESCO (?) account, which is a holding account, and should an insufficient amount be raised, then the money would automatically be returned. If the target is reached, the money will be converted into shares, with Ted's existing shares transferred into a Trust or similar.
Failure is not an option, although efforts continue to try and entice an investor into the club.
As a general comment, please do not confuse the frustration of not knowing details with bad management. The club are inbetween a rock and a hard place on these matters - they have been heavily criticised by many for not having a shareholders meeting, now they have and, quite rightly I'm afraid to say, the shareholders are entitled to first dibs on new details about the club - they do own it!
Those that were there were given an honest and full account of all the ongoings over recent months, which partly explained the delay in holding a shareholders meeting. We were told the details of 2 major investors (one is our sponsor) who spent weeks each going through the books and then surprising everyone by pulling out. Part of the reason for their withdrawal lies with the situation created by the RFL and Crusaders!
More energy needs to be directed as to why the new Welsh club have a £700k loan from the RFL, yet we were refused £350k - even when granted security against the NM site.
I'm not quite sure how or when the club will reveal more details from last nights meeting, but I've set the ball rolling here - maybe prematurely - so the question is - are we willing to pay up to secure RL in Wakefield and, for all those Ted bashers, here is your chance!'"
Altough i do not agree with the RFL supporting Crusaders in any way shape or form, why should the RFL help Wakefield out ? we cannot blame the RFL for our shortfalls can we ? we have failed to attract investers for years does that not tell you something ? either we are not a good investment or the current BOD were not very good at their job ?. The RFL did nowt to help Blackpool what makes Wakefield any different ?
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| Yes I agree we shouldn't be blaming the RFL for the mess that we as a club are in. The ground was a dump when I started watching 20 years ago so why did we wait so long to try and sort a new ground out?
Ted said he would have gone in 2001 if someone would have come forward to take over, I wonder what would have happened if the 500,000 share offer was available back then and the fans took it up? Where would we be now?
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