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| Quote ="TheButcher"Hope he goes well for you guys. He was pretty awful for us and a strange signing when we made it. Awful is maybe too strong. Average is probably better. Different environments bring out different things in players so hopefully he'll go well for you, just don't expect anything exciting from him.
He is British born but will still count on the quota as he's non-fed trained.'"
Very strange signing. A successful NRL player getting signed up to a then slightly above average Super League side. A real head scratcher that one !
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| Even if not been playing well. We have a habit of getting a bit more out of forwards
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| If hes as bad as ben jones bishop and mason caton brown....will take that
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| I think the question about Hasson is whether he signed up at Salford for longer than this season?
As by the reports, at the time, Salford were having forward issues.
If those forwards came back to fitness quicker than expected, then Hasson's transition may not be as smooth as expected?
Is he now playing for a contract?
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| I'll trust CC's judgement. He's not let me down so far.
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| Quote ="eastardsley"If hes as bad as ben jones bishop and mason caton brown....will take that'"
The difference here though is that MCB and BJB were good players and most Salford fans said as such when they moved on. Hasson is not great, especially for taking up a non-fed spot. He isn't terrible, just very average. He'll tackle and run the ball, but wont make many post contact metres and wont break the line much, which is fine if that's the type of player your after. To me, if you want to try and bring on an average joe player you might as well stick a young lad in and let him get experience rather than have a bang average Aussie based player fill up the role and the quota spot.
Hat's off if CC can get anything out of him, just don't hold your breath.
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| Quote ="TheButcher"The difference here though is that MCB and BJB were good players and most Salford fans said as such when they moved on. Hasson is not great, especially for taking up a non-fed spot. He isn't terrible, just very average. He'll tackle and run the ball, but wont make many post contact metres and wont break the line much, which is fine if that's the type of player your after. To me, if you want to try and bring on an average joe player you might as well stick a young lad in and let him get experience rather than have a bang average Aussie based player fill up the role and the quota spot.
Hat's off if CC can get anything out of him, just don't hold your breath.'"
I'm pretty sure our coach will know exactly what he's got, as things stand he probably won't get in the side anyway but we have one prop out injured and another struggling with a heel problem, maybe he'll get a chance to show what he's capable of, atm he is here till the end of the season so he's not really a gamble but the opportunity's there for him, you never know Chester might be able to do with him what your club could not, surely you'll agree with that with Jones Bishop, Caton Brown, and Ashurst being far better players since joining us from Salford.
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| Quote ="TheButcher"The difference here though is that MCB and BJB were good players and most Salford fans said as such when they moved on. Hasson is not great, especially for taking up a non-fed spot. He isn't terrible, just very average. He'll tackle and run the ball, but wont make many post contact metres and wont break the line much, which is fine if that's the type of player your after. To me, if you want to try and bring on an average joe player you might as well stick a young lad in and let him get experience rather than have a bang average Aussie based player fill up the role and the quota spot.
Hat's off if CC can get anything out of him, just don't hold your breath.'"
So you can tell all that after a player has played 4 games.....your in the wrong job pal
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| Quote ="eastardsley"So you can tell all that after a player has played 4 games.....your in the wrong job pal'"
I've watched him in the NRL when he got a game to. Same kind of story. I'm not in the wrong job, it's just fairly obvious.
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| Quote ="TheButcher"I've watched him in the NRL when he got a game to. Same kind of story. I'm not in the wrong job, it's just fairly obvious.'"
Time will tell.
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| Quote ="chissitt"I'm pretty sure our coach will know exactly what he's got, as things stand he probably won't get in the side anyway but we have one prop out injured and another struggling with a heel problem, maybe he'll get a chance to show what he's capable of, atm he is here till the end of the season so he's not really a gamble but the opportunity's there for him, you never know Chester might be able to do with him what your club could not, surely you'll agree with that with Jones Bishop, Caton Brown, and Ashurst being far better players since joining us from Salford.'"
I agree with you regarding CC. It isn't a gamble, it's an opportunity for him. By the looks of it you have picked him up for the same reasons that we did. I disagree with you regarding the other ex-Salford players. They were all very good for us in their time with us. I'd say you've got more out of Ashurst than we did, so fair play, but he was solid for us in his time. MCB and BJB were both very good for us as they are for you. The difference now is that they are playing in a top four club (How nice is it to hear that about Wakey eh? ) rather than a bottom of the table side that Salford were when we had them.
Anyway, good luck to him and yourselves. Great to see the unfashionable clubs of Salford and Wakey in the top four. Long may it continue.
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| I really hope James Hasson reads this thread...hope he gets a run out against St.Helens if there are injuries to England & Huby.
He has a contract to play for aswell as a place in the Ireland squad for the 2017 World Cup down under......
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| Quote ="asmadasa"I really hope James Hasson reads this thread...hope he gets a run out against St.Helens if there are injuries to England & Huby.
He has a contract to play for aswell as a place in the Ireland squad for the 2017 World Cup down under......'"
So do I.
Would be nice to see him with a bit of grit and determination.
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| Quote ="TheButcher"So do I.
Would be nice to see him with a bit of grit and determination.'"
If we had based our opinion of most of our squad on there first four appearances we,d not still have two thirds of them.
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| TheButcher has been on our forum quite a lot and always gives a balanced viewpoint on what he sees.
I can't believe, all of a sudden he is the devil incarnate for giving his opinion on a player that he's seen more than us!
I like Salford as they are similar to us, perennial strugglers but now they have a good squad and shaking the big boys up like us.
Can only be good for the game.
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| I agree Fickle
We get a lot of trolls from other clubs but TheButcher is always a welcome poster.
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| When I saw that Salford had picked him up I was a little jealous as I think he's a good player!
Hope he now proves me right in a Trinity shirt!
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| Quote ="PopTart"I agree Fickle
We get a lot of trolls from other clubs but TheButcher is always a welcome poster.'"
His integrity isn't the issue so why are you making it so?
The question is can you seriously judge a player on four games, I can't. Evidence suggests no on on this forum ca - see Tupou as latest example.
So an you judge a player on four games?
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| I thought Jarrad Hickey gave us enough info after his first appearance.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"I thought Jarrad Hickey gave us enough info after his first appearance.'"
Yep and he also got more than four go's at it. I thinkMr Hickey's issues were not RL related - if this guy arrives 5 stone overweight then yo may have a point
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| It's fair enough if you think nobody can judge a player after four games. The fact here is that is what I have to go off, plus a scattering of NRL appearances. I was just offering an honest opinion to supporters of the club he's joining. I don't think I said anything truly awful and was hopeful that he'd do well for you. I understand the tribal mentality of taking the side of your club/coach. I've done the same thing. In fact, I did the same thing when Hasson arrived at Salford. I was a little baffled by the signing but gave Watson/Salford the benefit of the doubt. Turns out it wasn't a good fit for either Hasson or the club.
All I was doing, vastman, was offering an opinion. I'm not bothered either way what you think of it. After all, he may be the next best thing for you and turn out to be the buy of the season.
He'll definitely have a blinder against us in the super 8's, guaranteed!
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| Quote ="TheButcher"It's fair enough if you think nobody can judge a player after four games. The fact hereo is that is what I have to go off, plus a scattering of NRL appearances. I was just offering an honest opinion to supporters of the club he's joining. I don't think I said anything truly awful and was hopeful that he'd do well for you. I understand the tribal mentality of taking the side of your club/coach. I've done the same thing. In fact, I did the same thing when Hasson arrived at Salford. I was a little baffled by the signing but gave Watson/Salford the benefit of the doubt. Turns out it wasn't a good fit for either Hasson or the club.
All I was doing, vastman, was offering an opinion. I'm not bothered either way what you think of it. After all, he may be the next best thing for you and turn out to be the buy of the season.
He'll definitely have a blinder against us in the super 8's, guaranteed!
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I accept that just didn't think you had much to go on. As for the blinder tends not to work that way for us in my experience so I wouldn't worry
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| Quote ="vastman"His integrity isn't the issue so why are you making it so?
The question is can you seriously judge a player on four games, I can't. Evidence suggests no on on this forum ca - see Tupou as latest example.
So an you judge a player on four games?'"
Alternatively, my comment was nothing to do with yours and I was just agreeing with the poster who said he was a good guy.
Some people would come on here with the same information just to wind people up. I don't think he did so I said so.
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| Maybe the change of club is what James needs, Tim Smith played a lot better for us than with Salford
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