Have you been to craven park ? I believe there are 2 sides with no cover at all and there capacity is the same as ours.

Yes, have you?

Two modern stands for starters. It is also easy to see how the two open ends could be replaced with stands giving you a ground not dissimilar to Widnes. You have to be realistic here, CP has the ability to be upgraded far more easily and to a far higher standard than BV at a far more affordable cost. Sadly they are at CP, were at BV and not NM and there is your problem - one dream is very attainable whilst the other is still all ifs and buts.

Don't think yours is the club in question, they just play in the same colours as your team.

So council paying for stadium, council give club grant yet players still not paid on time? Sounds fine and dandy don't it!

Its a £20million+ stadium we needed backing from somewhere, and as for the wages no one know's why they wasn't paid on time, it could of been anything, but I'm sure if we were having problems a new coach wouldn't of just signed for us along with the two new players we've signed and Ratchford wouldn't be debating to stay or not.

I think we are clutching at straws if we think Salford are in trouble !

He could be using the notion as a bargaining tool for more money from a bigger club. He wouldn't the first player to try that, nor will he be the last.

I'm slightly clueless to all this but which construction was it that went bust and held up Salford's stadium build? And was Wilkinson involved with them in anyway?

Its not Salford imo.

Everyone should face facts, instead of clutching at straws, I can't wait till this season is over, I'd rather see us beating sides in the Champo than getting smashed by poor sides like Quins and HKR.

However unfair the franchise system is (take your pick of the Crusaders scandals) and no matter how bent and shambolic the RFL are (Loans to other clubs when we got nothing, bending the rules where it suits, or just not having rules there in the first place) won't make a jot of difference.

It's daft to having a pop at clubs like HKR and Salford, clubs that have actually made progress during this franchising process. I just don't see why we should be hung, drawn and quartered at a big press conference (which I'm guessing will be aired live?) and embarrassed when everyone seems to know we are down anyway, it just sounds awfully embarrassing.

That is my main problem here, other clubs around us are making signings for next season, so surely players/agents and clubs know something we do not (as expressed on another thread). If so it just further highlights how unprofessional the RFL are.

If they get paid like everybody else, then the problem would more than likely have been BACS, unless it happened over a 2 or 3 month period then its probably more sinister.

Don't think it was the main contractor just the electrical bunch who had won that part of the contract.

Quote ="captaincaveman"done anything about this yet? www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 01,00.html or are we pinning everything on the wakefield administration thing?'" How do Leeds come above Wigan when the away fans get wet and from what I can see they have no plans to cover the away end

Quote ="captaincaveman"done anything about this yet? www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 01,00.html or are we pinning everything on the wakefield administration thing?'" How do Leeds come above Wigan when the away fans get wet and from what I can see they have no plans to cover the away end

would not call one of the stands modern and do they have the funds to develop the ground yes its better than BV but its still poor when you look at the rest

I can't understand how Bradford 'get away with' their stadium facilities

did not know they had any

I couldn't agree more. The whole thing is disgusting and divisive, and not the way the governing body of a professional sport should treat its fans.

But some people have no shame.

When the announced the last franchises didnt they just announce who the teams were and that was it end of story? knowing the RFL (Lewis and fatboy anyway) they will just do the same and run away with a press release...

Yes it was Live on Sky Sports though, and the Sky cameras were at Crusaders/Widnes/Salford and a few others with reactions after the decision, I seem to remember there was a slide with 14 club logos on it which effectively showed who had a Super League spot. I'm guessing this will be the case again, hopefully not though.

It was Airedale. They're still trading, God knows how as they are notoriously bad payers, I've done lots of work for them through the company I subcontract for. Quite a lot of firms won't work for them and other firms have gone under because of them. Allegedly

Both stands were built at the same time!

I'm not suggesting it's a nice ground, it's very basic to say the least. However it's surrounded by land and has at least one modern stand offering seats etc. Let's put it this way, I wish BV were as advanced and only required two new stands rather than four. At the end of the day HKR are sat in a ground that will remain there home and be developed. We are sat in a ground no one is willing to develop waiting for a ground that won't arrive in time. Advantage HKR.

Interesting comments from Salford's new coach, basically saying he's here until he can get a job in the NRL

Would hardly say the satnds at kr are modern!!! both having restricted views,and agree on the Leeds away end and Bratfud having no covered terracing !as for us at Salford i can understand fans of other clubs having sour grapes with us after the farce of red city developments going bump a couple of days after the last franchises were awarded,and even the most die hard of salford fans would be lying if they didnt smell a rat at the time!

Jeez this is difficult, they were built in the early 90's how modern do you need. Whether they are any good is a different matter. What can't be argued is they are far more modern than our one and only stand that may well have been built when Victoria was on the throne - certainly no later than the 1920's. It has no toilets built in and I believe it doesn't even have proper foundations.

Add the fact that we have carried out thousands of pounds worth of development at our ground in the last 5 or 6 years compared to what Wakey have done, and there is really no comparison between the two. The same goes for a few other SL clubs by the way.