I tend to agree with kinleycat.
There's a global reccession on at the moment,i've not had a wage rise in three years and don't look like getting one next year either.If DB's got anything like a 10% percent increase he should deem himself a very lucky guy,we can only pay wages in line with our crowds and income stream, move away from that and we'd be comitting financial suicide.
I hope DB sees sense and accepts what i'm told is a very good increase in wages,if not we'll have to sit back and see who comes in for him.

agreed sometimes players are happy and they wont rock the boat, we cannot bankrupt the club, hes just a part of it, if he wants to stay and hes gonna be happy then good. if he wants to keep pushing for more then bye bye danny.

I know one thing for sure, DB agent is a top bloke, and agents are no worse than clubs when it comes to contract talks. I just think that DB needs to do what is best for him, we are fans, they (players) are employed by the club.
I dont know what he wants, or what he is being offered, but Wakefield are far from sqeeky clean when it comes down to wages, promises, and loyalty.

He could be talking about the time when he was at FC!

If three or four companies' were after your services would you turn them down out of hand, or would you go for better wages and conditions simple choice really for the sake of a few extra quid do we want to keep one of the best scrum halves' in the league or not right or wrong thats the situation.

Hadnt thoguht of that, fair enough, though his carear did once again go into stagnation until he was loaned out to and eventually signed for cas.

I'm sure as you say, he is a top bloke, I don't even know his name.
It is however in his own best intrest for his client to earn as much money as possible, in order to earn his "10%". that is not in the "clubs" best interests.
I am a fan of wakefield trinity, not one player or one agent, therefor I am scepticle of agents.
You are right also about the "clubs" not being aqueeky clean, not just Wakefield and not just rugby league, which is why we find ourselves in a situation of having to use a third party, reap what you sow!!!
3 into 2 doesn't go for me, the clubs should be trusted to make there best offer and the player should be honest and deal responsibly with their club, basically that's what most fans want.
So come on wakey make him the best offer you can, danny take it, cos we want you to stay, and lets kick on next season and look forward to a bright new future in a shiny new ground!!!!!

In a short career you cant blame anyone for maximising there earnings and if he has the possibility of higher offers elsewhere then you have the possibility of a disgruntled player on your hands?

fair enough, everyone has the right to choose there employer and if someone has the choice they also have right to go to the highest bidder.
All most fans would like is a bit of up front honesty, we do get attached to these guys, and we feel a bit let down when they turn us over.
A bit if honesty is all I ask, and that means from the club to danny aswell!!!

Only after Kear left!

we couldn't keep hold of one of the our best scrum halves in the past in the end (David Topliss) he went on to other clubs, but could you just imagine being the main part of the team that pushed the Wakefield Trinity Wildcats back in to the top the league,
he could put in another three years and still be young enough to move on afterwards if things didn't work out.

he had a fair bit of trouble down cas too. danny seems to be happy at wakey over all. has buckled down and worked hard and his discipline on and off the field has been pretty good. he should remember that everything people promise does not necessarily follow as a lot of other players have found out after leaving wakey. wakey is a pretty good place to be at the moment. danny is not stupid. imo, he will re-sign.

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Toppo was a Stand Off.. but didnt leave Trinity until he was into his early 30's... then came back aged 36 as player coach/ coach... also it was in his years away from us that he won medals.... I also remember reading that the club also thought it was time for him to move on...

however if you are looking at players we have had and not been able to keep (for whatever reason and I only include the ones I personally think would have been worth keeping)... David Smith... David Jeans... Bob Haigh... Ian Brooke... Mick Morgan... Trevor Skerrett... Keith Rayne... Kevin Rayne... Andy Kelly... David Finch... Graham Idle... .....and so on until more recent times) Colin Maskill... Ben Westwood... Keith Mason... Ryan Hudson... Nigel Wright... Gareth Ellis... Adrian Flynn... Richard Goddard... Alan Hunte... Ryan Atkins... Scott Grix... Olivier Elima... Oliver Wilkes... Jason Golden... Peter Fox... Jay Pitts


maybe Danny Brough will join this list... maybe not...

yes he was stand off, had Broughy in mind at scrum half what I meant was we had a star player and he moved on to other clubs

The thing with Toppo is we had the best years out of him, but its different with Brough as he probably has the best years in front of him. The club is in an unenviable position at the moment, on one hand they have one of the most talented scrum halfs' in SL do they try and find a bit extra for him at the expense of somebody else and perhaps cause unrest in the camp or do they say enough Danny boy take it or leave it if its not enough go where the grass is greener, a bit of a dilemma for the club either way it will upset fans.

I know his agent wants him to earn a massive contract. However a player is only worth what someone is prepared to pay, so lets look at the facts.

For a start some people say the reason he is not in the England camp is due to his drinking habits. You hear quite a bit about that from various people. So Tony Smith dosn't want him so that would rule out a move to Warrington.

Saints Eastmond /Pryce = No
Wigan Leuleli /Tomkins =No
Salford just sold Myler must have some cash so possible.
Shudds They have stated they would like him,they have cash,so possible.
Bradford skint
Leeds Dannyboy and Burrow=NO
Cas Sherwin/chase =NO
Hull Don't think he'd ever go back there
Hull KR Just signed Dobson and still have Cooke would say No.

Looking at that there seems to be very few options.

he would jump at the chance but they will never have him back.

All the bold ones would have him. Replace overseas player with long term English signing would be appealing.
He is worth a lot to us. We can't afford to lose him. Pay him a very good salary without breaking the bank.

im in two minds with this one on brough, firstly make him an offer we can afford and if he dont take it sell him now while hes in contract. i think sometimes our performances have been better without him where we have thrown the ball about. saying that hes got a great kicking game and he can get us out of it when the forwards are on the back foot, but let him hold the club to ransom, not a chance.

Although the club benefited to the tune of £100K for Ellis they were left woefully short on the field, all because the club didn’t want to lose him for nothing. In my mind, whether Brough signs or not, Trinity should keep him here and not sell him. He is worth more to the team then £100K would be and right now there are no alternatives left in the market (although M&S shares may go up). The overseas import numbers are already top heavy and the best halves are already signed up. Wakefield would be relying on Jeffries and Obst and the half back paring which whilst not the end of the world it would certainly be lacking. Also he is a valued ‘club trained’ player.

But.....

If we keep a player who is going to leave (albeit he will still be on his old wage level) it could cost us the, say, £50k, plus the loss of a potential transfer fee of, say, £100k - that's a cost to the club of £150k for the one player, for one year, and for someone who is looking to move on and will not have the same motivation as others.

That £150k could buy you 2 decent players in today's market.

I would love for Danny to stay, but he has to want to stay - for the right reasons (which include money, but shouldn't be the only factor), but if we cannot come to agreement, then I say, for both parties sakes, move on!

Monetary terms in makes complete sense to let him go (if he wanted to) I just don’t think the club will benefit from losing such a pivotal player.

Sure you could use his wage plus transfer fee and replace him with two decent or possibly one great player (if they wanted to come to Wakefield in the first place) but that could’ve been said with when Ellis departed, by rights Trinity should’ve had £200K to spend but for whatever reason that didn’t materialise (more then likely it went on paying off existing debts).

As for Brough’s attitude, when he knew he was leaving Castleford his performances seemed to excel, certainly more so then at the start of the season.

It’s a tough one to call and whichever way it goes there will be positives and negatives.

I think if they cashed in on broughy...they'd have to replace him with someone like Lockyer/Cronk if affordable/avaialable for me because southernwood not ready yet and there is nobody else around in super league...

Im in the 'make him a final offer with a timescale to accept and then sell ASAP if not agreed. The loss of money by keeping a player to the end of his contract is not worth it.

You would also have to consider his efforts to the cause if negotiations broke down.

Nope im totally against this method, 2 players of what standard wilkes is on 100k, scrum halfs are few and far between there's certainly no english players good enough which means another Aussie.

How about its too late in the day to get 2 decent players for 150k, this is far-fetched i know but we have a very strong squad this year with real quality in brough, he could be the difference between a challenge cup final / play-off appearance and then how much would that cost us???? in gate receipts, increased crowds etc more franchise points on having a average 8th place finish.

BIGGER PICTURE.