Think he meant in terms of distance rather than the quality.

Ah fair enough.

There already is a nature reserve in Stanley



When you walk onto the area where the stadium is to be built there isn't a single house visible ... any that are nearby are completely concealed by trees. the new road being put in to bypass Newmarket Lane means that traffic will not be passing these properties either.

It is an ideal situation and if you can't get permission to develop there, where there is only a handful of neighbours, then I don't know how anyone would get permission to build anything anywhere!!

The location is also an ideal place for a camp and I would be suprised if they did not visit it from time to time.

In fairness to the people with the petition.
They live on a quiet country road with a few small terrace houses and a few large converted farm houses. They have views for miles.

When we build this stadium, a few 13+ times a year they will have a traffic jam outside their house and a big concrete structure to look at all year round.

Much as I want the stadium I can understand why they don't. The problem to them is there are only a few residents rather than 100s around the park so they are going to find it hard to be heard.

I hope they consider their houses in the design but if it was all down to my decision, they would lose out because I want a stadium and I'm biassed.

At the risk of lighting torch paper, that isn't full planning permission to my knowledge.

Please enlighten us all, what is full planning permission ?

Not trying to be clever, just interested.

Maybe the stadium isn't going to be there on its own. I don't think it will be in the middle of ANOTHER retail park but there could be oppertunities for others to use parking facilites.

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To my knowledge as someone not in the slightest bit involved in the building/planning trade, I thought full planning permission included the submission of plans so detailed as to detail every minute bit of the stadium design such as architectural plans and the like. Full details as to the usage of facilities, what the roads leading up to the stadium will be made of, how many car park spaces, how many bricks will be used, what shade of white paint will be used in the car park markings etc.

I may be completely wrong, but for full planning permission I'd have thought all plans would be in place, which I wouldn't have thought would be developed and finalised in the time you've had. Maybe someone from SWAG can clear that up?

I think you are right and I also think that is what J30 M62 Trinty may have meant.

is it me who is wrong, but how can land that used to have a colliery on it be classed as green belt land. i am confused!

perhaps the residents would prefer an opencast site???

stick a pit back on it, I'm sure that would cheer em up no end, or better still stick a site there!!!!
Basically they (20 on the picture) just want a say in what goes on, and they want assurances that it's not all going to be kicking off right in their front or back gardens, which I am sure they will get, there isn't enough of a voice in that area to stop this project. In the end we will get our ground and they will get what they want, little disruption to their lives, fair enough really.

Or alternatively he may have meant designs and plans like Cas have got, and have attained OUTLINE planning permission with, which I'm sure you have to attain before you can pursue full planning permission?

I don't think you need OUTLINE before you can go for FULL planning. If a project is sufficiently developed you can go to for a full permission which if granted allows an immediate start to construction. OUTLINE permission does not permit a start - you still need a full permision before you can start.

I think what usually happens is that if there is a large site then the developer will seek OUTLINE consent for the full site and then obtain full or detailed permission for individual parts of the site.

It may be an OUTLINE application for the Newmarket site with a detailed or full application for the Stadium at the same time. Maybe Jct 30 M62 Trinity could verify.

The designation "Green Belt" is a planning term and has nothing at all to do with the colour of the land. Many collieries when they closed were designated as Green Belt in the Local Plan.

The Newmarket site is classed as brownfield land as it has previously been developed (with a pit) as opposed to greenfield land that has had no development on it.

Don't get confused between greenfield and green belt, they are not the same.

Newmarket is "Green Belt" in terms of planning but it can still be developed. Its just a departure to the Local Plan which can be changed with the support of Wakefield MDC and the Government Office in Leeds.

Hope that has explained the situation.

clear as a foggy day in a coal cellar!!!!

Thought it pretty clear myself but I understand it.

What bit is not clear ?

do you mean green belt land which is brownfiield can be developed but green belt which is greenfield can't??

Does all green belt land get automatically called in for government review?

all of it!!

Green belt land is exactly that. It is designated to be undeveloped and provide a "green belt" of undeveloped land between developed land.

Green belt land can be developed but as it is not designated as developable land then firstly the Local Authority has to support the development of the land and any planning application. When a planning application is submitted there is extensive consultation with various bodies including statutory bodies such as the Highways Agency, Environment Agency, Natural England etc. and also the local community can pass comments.

As the land is Green Belt it will automatically be "called in" by Govenment Office. It can then do 2 things. If its happy with the application it can pass it back to the Local Authority and allow it to determine the application or if it feels that the application has far reaching consequiences it can call a Public Enquiry which can take up to 2 years to come to a conclusion.

The application at Newmarket will probably be "called in", we have to hope there is so much support for the project (and little opposition) that the Goverment Office passes the application back to Wakefield MDC to determine without the need for a Public Enquiry.

wouldn't worry too much about the petition . should think most sane people down there would want to get shut of the mess the gypsies left and make sure they don't get back there. think my son would probably have had more signatures on his pot when he broke his arm than they will get.

Watch the website today for news regarding YOUR chance to make your mark!

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