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| Cheers. Does anyone know if it's on any radio station?
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| France 6 - England 14.
4 mins to half time.
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| England 20 France 6
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| It's fairly lethargic stuff from what I've seen.
A NZ side that got its arris kicked last week would beat both these sides.
I really can't get behind this, roll on next season!!!
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| 26-6
England look crap!
Slow, disjointed, no imagination, poor structure in defence.
Aus & NZ would murder us on this form.
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| I followed a link to another forum from a thread somewhere on here, the thread on the other forum included a letter/email from Richard Lewis.
Part of his email claimed how he thought that French international development was that , developing.
He said how he thought that Frances performances were getting better, clearly Mr Lewis didn't take into account, how far the opposition was heading in the opposite direction.
Needless to say Wiggy and Dolphin teeth are doing their nuts, but this is like watching two middle of the table SL sides playing a dead rubber.
Not elite level, not two NRL sides and certainly not state of origin or Aus v NZ.
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| Sinfield is not an international 6.
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| Brough, Widdop should have been the halfbacks
No need to embarrass us by calling up the flim flam fanny man from Cas
Sinfield is not an international player end of, full stop!
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| Show some pride Chase.
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| It's just like SL, after a game all the interviewees have southern hemisphere accents.
I'm sorry but we are going backwards at light speed, if not faster!!!!
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| Same old same old from the international coach. Picking players on name even if it means playing them out of position.
Club over country always for me.
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| Quote ="The Clan"Brough, Widdop should have been the halfbacks
No need to embarrass us by calling up the flim flam fanny man from Cas
Sinfield is not an international player end of, full stop!'"
Thought Chase played well
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| Quote ="kinleycat"Thought Chase played well'"
I thought he was average and certainly isn't worth the loss of credibility we've suffered due to his inclusion.
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| Quote ="The Clan"I thought he was average and certainly isn't worth the loss of credibility we've suffered due to his inclusion.'"
Perhaps not, but the lack of credibility is 100% down to the coach, not the player.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"It's just like SL, after a game all the interviewees have southern hemisphere accents.
I'm sorry but we are going backwards at light speed, if not faster!!!!'"
spot on mate, i do not want to hear any southen hemisphere accents from a english team. makes me sick, give the english lads ago first , or i for one will not suport a english rugby league team of inports. yes i know some will say the Aus and New Z, do it, but it does not work for me. get it right RFL,the game is a joke from a english point.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"Perhaps not, but the lack of credibility is 100% down to the coach, not the player.'"
Not blaming the player, I'm only assessing his game in an England shirt which was average at best! Beyond that if McNamara is going to beg steal and borrow players from other nations I'd expect them to be exceptional and worth the loss of credibility, Chase isn't! When you then factor in that we had the option of Danny Brough it becomes more confusing as to why we've compromised our principles to shoe horn Chase into the set up.
The blame lays firmly at the feet of McNamara who has made other glaringly awful decision already and we haven't even started the 4Ns yet!
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| Quote ="The Clan"Not blaming the player, I'm only assessing his game in an England shirt which was average at best! Beyond that if McNamara is going to beg steal and borrow players from other nations I'd expect them to be exceptional and worth the loss of credibility, Chase isn't! When you then factor in that we had the option of Danny Brough it becomes more confusing as to why we've compromised our principles to shoe horn Chase into the set up.
The blame lays firmly at the feet of McNamara who has made other glaringly awful decision already and we haven't even started the 4Ns yet!'"
What you said, for the most part!!
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| Chase got frustrated and his basic skills seemed to not be up to scratch for me. I hope he can turn it around. I do agree with a previous poster in that DB should be 7 and Widdop in at 6. Their skills seem to complement each other well. Sinfield seemed to go missing too.
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| Quote ="The Clan"Not blaming the player, I'm only assessing his game in an England shirt which was average at best! Beyond that if McNamara is going to beg steal and borrow players from other nations I'd expect them to be exceptional and worth the loss of credibility, Chase isn't! When you then factor in that we had the option of Danny Brough it becomes more confusing as to why we've compromised our principles to shoe horn Chase into the set up.
The blame lays firmly at the feet of McNamara who has made other glaringly awful decision already and we haven't even started the 4Ns yet!'"
To be fair Rich the most annoying part for me is shoe horning a 13 into 6 and a 6 into 7 when you have arguably the best 7 in SL sat watching. For me if he was going to play Chase it should have been at 6 with Brough at 7 and Sinfield at 13. It's a comlete joke and i was hoping we would get turned over tonight by a team of Catalans players -2.
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| Quote ="ry21"To be fair Rich the most annoying part for me is shoe horning a 13 into 6 and a 6 into 7 when you have arguably the best 7 in SL sat watching. For me if he was going to play Chase it should have been at 6 with Brough at 7 and Sinfield at 13. It's a comlete joke and i was hoping we would get turned over tonight by a team of Catalans players -2.'"
See my post from the VT
Brough & Widdop should have been the halves but now we're stuck with Chase at scrum half. Let's hope that McNamara comes into a little sense in the next few days and puts Widdop in at stand off.
There's no place for Sinfield, top class football teams can't carry a traditional ball playing loose forward any more it's now three back rowers who carry the ball strongly and tackle all day.
Carvel has to come onto the bench.
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| Quote ="The Clan"See my post from the VT
Brough & Widdop should have been the halves but now we're stuck with Chase at scrum half. Let's hope that McNamara comes into a little sense in the next few days and puts Widdop in at stand off.
There's no place for Sinfield, top class football teams can't carry a traditional ball playing loose forward any more it's now three back rowers who carry the ball strongly and tackle all day.
Carvel has to come onto the bench.'"
I agree entirely about Sinfield never really rated him and i also agree about Carvell. For me if Chase has to play it would be him at 6 and DB at 7. DB can control a game in very much the same was as Danny Orr which allows Chase to be the running 6 he does so well. Ideally it would be DB at 7 and GW at 6 but that aint gonna happen whilst Steve McNamara is in charge.
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| Quote ="The Clan"See my post from the VT
Brough & Widdop should have been the halves but now we're stuck with Chase at scrum half. Let's hope that McNamara comes into a little sense in the next few days and puts Widdop in at stand off.
There's no place for Sinfield, top class football teams can't carry a traditional ball playing loose forward any more it's now three back rowers who carry the ball strongly and tackle all day.
Carvel has to come onto the bench.'"
Chase is not English, and should not don a ENGLISH SHIRT.Iam upset
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| Chase was the nearest man to both of the French tryscorers for the last two tries. Expect lots of tries down the right over the next month. And off the cuff stuff is too risky at international level.
Don't mind Read too much, despite the accent. He was born here and so I presume has English parents as well. Chase has just chased the nearest international shirt.
And Tomkins is a better six than Sinfield. Can't comment on Widdop as not seen him at six, but Tomkins of last year was better than the Sinfield of this.
Think of it this way: at Ellan Road on November 19th, you get to see Lockyer's last game and a haka.
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| got bored with the game and end up throwing the ball around the house for the dogs,
woeful game maybe due to the opposition but England just sat back as if they didn't seem interested and allowed the frogs back in
Reed took his try well but just looked sluggish
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| Quote ="bazzo44"Chase is not English, and should not don a ENGLISH SHIRT.Iam upset'"
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