The fact he still didn't come clean about it when the shareholder meeting took place at the beginning of the month suggests to me that he was being dishonest. If he had made a genuine mistake, he could have at least tried to justify his logic.

I think people should stop trying to look at an alternative theory to all this, your helping the club write the press release that will no doubt appear on the website shortly saying how ted and the club were victims of the property and economic crash

No mate... you've just ripped yourself off.

U iz fik iz wot u iz.





Seriously... issue 3... it'll be a biggie... and you know it's now or never.

So why did Wakefield not receive the full asking price?

Either way we are in the smelly poo. As you say it doesn't really matter what his intentions were, its gone too far for him to carry on.

He did put it in a Trust .His (Javine)

Take this whole ground sale out of the equation, and you can still count the major errors under this regime. Employing a chief executive who was never fit for purpose, and is still on the payroll. Appointing Tony Smith as head coach when clearly not the man for the job, as his CV shows after leaving Belle Vue (hope his flats still earn him a few quid.) There's 2 anyway, and very little on the positive side of the ledger to balance that out.

the signing of John Kear that kept us, we could of been down there now

Well if the Bank of Ireland operated like other European lending banks (not UK lending banks) at the time, even given the real estate market in Ireland, it would have factored in a percentage of the market value of the real estate (anything between 20-40%) in order to recoup its losses in the event of default. Presumably, what remained would have been the total money available to the club.

And yet I take it you would champion the right to use message boards to voice opinion that challenges the mainstream?

I know - it was tongue in cheek - isn't it always?

Yes of course, but by now I think it would be clear that there is no plausible explanations for Ted's actions, other than "look after number 1 and family"

god i could scream are you all there in the head, ffs. grab your head and shake the bloody thing.

The fans signed Kear in all effect.

Remember that Sky game at home when we were commentating and I think Neil Fox recommended him too. IIRC he was not Ted's 1st choice.

And yet here we are, a few years down the line, with all and sundry screaming for Kear to go. That old hindsight thingy again... isn't it wonderful?

If only we'd listened to Ted, eh, Mopsey? We wouldn't have Kear now.

Mopsey isn't James Lowes, is he?

Take a breath Mopsey. You do get wound up by some very trivial things.

Swings and Round abouts son.

Kear proved what he could do by getting us into playoffs finishing 6th. We got some decent players in tronc, newton and had brough and started the season like a top 4 finish was in order. Instead due to the imcompetent little turd of a chairman we had to sell brough, atkins, werent able to keep tronc, and sadly newton made a mistake. Kear then didn't do a good enough job with the players available but with BJ directing the team id worry for any club with him in.

Anyway back on topic...

Ted pack your bags, steal the stationary and off.

Yes, back on topic, as you say.... funny how hindsight is a wonderful thing, son....

Think he would have been lynched there and then, would have been fun to watch

Could do with an evening with event with ted on the panel

That would be a full house!

Money spinner £1000 on the door

Having read all of these pages i think everyone has done a pretty good job at deciphering where the ground went and why etc.

however in my opinion a couple of things have still not been fully investigated......

1) seen as though wakefield never got the money, what actually happenend to the £2million that the bank of ireland lent Tillion?
(my guess is flats in cyprus, or m&s suits..)

2) the op (original poster) has 1 post to his name, appears to support cas, and yet revealed this "bombshell" to the wakey fans. although i am thankful for him doing it, who is he and why?

3) what the chance of sir rodney walker giving ted a good reference, now it appears that he has lost his money to the tax man..??

over to you...

It was very closely linked to the article in the rugby paper, so I think it may be conceivable there may be links there.

it was also very well written, which to say the op claimed to be a cas fan is even more mysterious than where has ted trousered the dosh?!?!?!?!?


only joking

Written almost 'journalistically' in fact.

Wonder how many of the 100+ guests are actually journos getting their stories from here?