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| Quote ="chissitt"I'm not a fan of Mr Carter myself but having said that I'm not one of his critics either, he is what he is, the chairman of the club I've supported for a couple of years or so, the problem he has is one of he can't win, for every dozen fans he pleases he upsets a dozen also, so on the basis that I haven't a clue what's going on at the club unlike others what's in a similar position to me If I've nothing good to say about him I say nothing as against some what work on the principle if there's no news I'll invent some.
As you say your no fan of Mr Carter you made that plainly obvious by defending somebody whose post was clearly made to try an embarrass the club, just my opinion of course.'"
If defending him is pointing out that he actually didn't do what you accused him if then yes i guess i did. Did i agree with all his post, no i didn't. But he didn't accused MC of irregularities either.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"If defending him is pointing out that he actually didn't do what you accused him if then yes i guess i did. Did i agree with all his post, no i didn't. But he didn't accused MC of irregularities either.'"
Quote ="chissitt"Nothing wrong with opinions, but yours above is not an opinion but an insinuation that maybe the chairman might be involved in some financial irregularities regarding monies owed to him by the club, as it's his club it's his business'"
Subtle difference there squire, but don't let that stop you
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| Quote ="chissitt"Subtle difference there squire, but don't let that stop you
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He didn't insinuate it either but hey, you carry on believing it, i couldn't care less to be honest.
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| What's irregular about making directors loans that appear on the books, and are due for repayment? That's perfectly normal.
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| Quote ="bren2k"What's irregular about making directors loans that appear on the books, and are due for repayment? That's perfectly normal.'"
Unfortunately some of our so called fans aren't "perfectly normal!"
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| Have you seen the accounts ?
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| Quote ="housecat"I've not agreed with how the club has been run for a while now so like you decided to start posting , I've also been accused of being someone else posting under a new name by columbo sorry I mean chisset lol . One thing is for sure I bet anyone on here that MC announces in the next week that he has purchased the ground back . A nice little smoke screen to take people's minds off what is happening oh and then we will ditch the Wildcats name and revert to Trinity . Oh the man is so great they should give him the key to the city'"
Just for ref are you saying MC is buying it or that it is going to be owned by the Community Trust??
If he does both of those things, i will be more than happy. The ground especially, is something that neither of the previous regimes have managed. Imagine owning the ground you play in. There's a novelty.
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| So we get back our ground meaning we can't be evicted, and stay at our home, then we return to being Trinity? I'll have more smoke screens like that please.
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| I'm not saying I don't want it I'm just saying the timing couldn't be more perfect for MC . Just when people are starting to ask questions he pulls a rabbit out of his hat or in this case 2 . That's how you get people back on side . Don't you agree
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| Quote ="housecat"I'm not saying I don't want it I'm just saying the timing couldn't be more perfect for MC . Just when people are starting to ask questions he pulls a rabbit out of his hat or in this case 2 . That's how you get people back on side . Don't you agree'"
That's even more cynical than I can manage, since the potential to buy BV has been talked about for months - pre-dating BS' decision to take his bat home by quite some margin.
If MC has an opportunity to buy BV and the Superbowl, propped up by hush money from YCP, then power to his elbow; it makes all of his hard work and investment worthwhile - he can either oversee the redevelopment of the site and improve our long term prospects, or flog it with something to actually flog and recoup his investment, both of which seem reasonable. If I was in that position, I certainly wouldn't be well-disposed towards a hostile take-over by some Johnny Come Lately Aussie with no stake in the club either - it's the worst possible time to consider selling, given that the value of the asset could be about to increase exponentially.
Despite what some people might think, MC is not Bruce Wayne.
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| I believe Carter has stated that the trust will be the owners of the ground, if all goes to plan.
He alone certainly has not suddenly' pulled a rabbit out of a hat'. Swag, the trust and the club etc have been working on this to try and resurrect something from the Newmarket (to put it mildly) let down. It seems to me that people who have their own agendas will never be satisfied and actually revel in the more negative side of things.
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| Hahaha so your telling me that Carter tells everyone everything as soon as it happens . Get real he announces things when it suits him believe me . Just like last year . We were never going to leave our home he just had people believing it so that when it was announced we were staying he became a hero .
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| Quote ="housecat"I'm not saying I don't want it I'm just saying the timing couldn't be more perfect for MC . Just when people are starting to ask questions he pulls a rabbit out of his hat or in this case 2 . That's how you get people back on side . Don't you agree'"
Regarding your points," the timing couldn't have been much more perfect for MC", A lot of work has gone into the new ground/Newmarket project, this isn't a rabbit out of the hat moment, it's just a complete coincidence, he must shake his head when he sees the cynicism over possible good news as being a way of getting people "back onside".
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| Quote ="housecat"Hahaha so your telling me that Carter tells everyone everything as soon as it happens . Get real he announces things when it suits him believe me . Just like last year . We were never going to leave our home he just had people believing it so that when it was announced we were staying he became a hero .'"
Jeez, he worked a blinder, he called the BOI bluff and got the club a reduction in rent. And yes, of course he doesn't tell everyone as soon as it happens, what business does?
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| Quote ="JINJER"So we get back our ground meaning we can't be evicted, and stay at our home, then we return to being Trinity? I'll have more smoke screens like that please.'"
And another rent reduction?
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| Quote ="housecat"I'm not saying I don't want it I'm just saying the timing couldn't be more perfect for MC . Just when people are starting to ask questions he pulls a rabbit out of his hat or in this case 2 . That's how you get people back on side . Don't you agree'"
So you think buying back the ground and possibly Super Bowl has become a possibility overnight.
As for the reduced rent we achieved by threatening to leave, I'm totally astounded, actually no I'm not, that you see that as a negative.
I'm glad there are some sensible fans out there, voicing their support and expressing a sensible opinion otherwise I wouldn't fault Carter and Co if they said stuff it and walked away.
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| Quote ="housecat"Hahaha so your telling me that Carter tells everyone everything as soon as it happens . Get real he announces things when it suits him believe me . Just like last year . We were never going to leave our home he just had people believing it so that when it was announced we were staying he became a hero .'"
We've had some negative posters on here, in fact, plenty of them but, you are top of the pile.
Securing BV (or Newmarket) would be THE most positive thing that has happened to this club over the last 20 years (with the possible exception of our SL status) and it would give the club the chance to properly invest in the ground, rather than patching it up, year on year, to minimum standards, as we may have been moving.
Top your glass up a touch and make sure that it remains at least half full.
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| I agree with HouseCat.
Mr Bluff (sorry, Mr Carter) OUT!!
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| Quote ="theking"I agree with HouseCat.
Mr Bluff (sorry, Mr Carter) OUT!!'"
Brilliant post goodbye Mr Carter hello Mr/Mrs oh f**k there isn't anybody. Hope heating is turned off in changing rooms.
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| Quote ="Brian Briggs Ghost"Brilliant post goodbye Mr Carter hello Mr/Mrs oh f**k there isn't anybody. Hope heating is turned off in changing rooms.'"
Well, there was, but Mr Bluff didn't want to know.
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| Stick to your views house cat I just think you might be right,I've never trusted our leader ,time will tell but folk on here seem prepared to give him the benefit we'll see who's the gullible ones eh
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| Quote ="theking"Well, there was, but Mr Bluff didn't want to know.'"
Is it as simple as that?
Nothing is ever straight forward at Wakey.
Yep, MC has talked about selling for £1 but when he has spent the last two seasons reducing the debt whilst trying to sort out a decent deal for the ground.
You could possibly understand why he didnt want to hand over the ownership of the club, based on a business plan scribbled on the back of a fag packet.
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| I guess that none of you have seen the accounts then how can you be so sure of the financial debt owing to the Wakefield board or the current status of the club. I presumed you had based on the certainty of your support for the board.
I admit I don't know but I guess neither do any of you.
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| Quote ="try scorer"Stick to your views house cat I just think you might be right,I've never trusted our leader ,time will tell but folk on here seem prepared to give him the benefit we'll see who's the gullible ones eh'"
It's not a matter of being gullible. Whether you believe what he says or not, it is the reality.
It's not like he's selling us a car we don't want.
We want to pay for the product and we want the best possible product but if it's a banged up Cortina rather than new Audi, when it's the only car in town, you'll buy it and drive it with a smile on your face.
He has nothing to gain by cheating anyone. He may well be painting pretty pictures when it isn't actually pretty but it doesn't change anything. It woudn't be any prettier if it told you the truth.
Unless someone with more money comes in, we have to take what we have.
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| I certainly wouldn't buy a car from him pop tart, I ain't that gullible
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