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| Quote ="ambernotyeller"Just leave him in that little world of his own gassy,mebbe he believes what hes saying, poor kid'"
OK so what have you contributed then? leaving crowd issues aside
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| =#BF0040Word of caution!
Do not let this thread turn into a slanging match - or someone may get 'time off'
Thanks. TRB
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"This was posted on the Salford Message Board by a Wire Fan :
"Salford defo staying put,Wakey defo going. Got this from a very good source and look at wakeys letting go list,And before you ask why did john kear turn down the catalan if wakey are going down.Its because he has another job in the pipeline. Salford have to stay put........and change thier name to 1 that has Manchester in it"
Forgetting the fact that he is wrong about why Kear did not go to Catalans, it does make you wonder whether our fate is already sealed. Afterall the RFL cannot be trusted to do anything with an even hand.
It's also interesting that Kear may have another job in the pipeline (Cas anyone?)'"
Decision already made?
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| Quote ="recycling"Decision already made?
NO'"
And yet you have just told us where our future lies in your latest thread!
You couldn't make this stuff up!
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| Quote ="TRB"And yet you have just told us where our future lies in your latest thread!
You couldn't make this stuff up!
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I think he's Peter Box can I claim my fiver
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| Quote ="Disney cat"I think he's Peter Box can I claim my fiver
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He/She is certainly not a Trinity fan so will have to try harder to fool us.
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"I think Widnes are in whatever happens. I also think Salford are in whatever happens. It's a digging and cement mixing contest between us and Cas, IMO, unless Toulouse want a slice of the action, in which case they'll have to fulfill the entry criteria by filling out the form.'"
I concur although I think the RFL will invite Toulouse in and kick both of us out regardless of circumstances.
That way they get the expansion again in Super League to benefit the French and they get a Rhubarb Triangle derby in the Championship to raise crowds and profile in the lower league (and also to maintain rivalry).
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| Quote ="Fully"I concur although I think the RFL will invite Toulouse in and kick both of us out regardless of circumstances.
That way they get the expansion again in Super League to benefit the French and they get a Rhubarb Triangle derby in the Championship to raise crowds and profile in the lower league (and also to maintain rivalry).'"
Until Cas & Wakey combine in this scenario, ignore the RFLs clever no lawsuit agreement, and sue the living daylights out of the RFL for running an unlawful system and breaking the guidelines by letting Toulouse apply
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| Personally i think that if the cas job was available Kear would jump at the chance! Can see him been there next year..
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| Quote ="wakeyjosh"Personally i think that if the cas job was available Kear would jump at the chance! Can see him been there next year..'"
Matterson has 1 year left, then he said that's it for his time at Cas so 2 years until Kear even has a chance
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| Quote ="Gaslight"Until Cas & Wakey combine in this scenario, ignore the RFLs clever no lawsuit agreement, and sue the living daylights out of the RFL for running an unlawful system and breaking the guidelines by letting Toulouse apply
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They can invite any application from an overseas team.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"They can invite any application from an overseas team.'"
That is a complete and utter joke, lawn tennis & pie man need to go coming up with bizarre crap like that.
If they want to do franchising, DO IT PROPERLY kicking teams out is not how you expand a league, or a sport, you get a core group (the current 14) then add a team every so often like the NRL & American sports, not every 3 years after making clubs spend millions on improvements just to be ignored.
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| after reading rl express today the article about cas have funding in place, i am quite surprised! the article mentions funding by wakefield council but i am sure that they have said that no funding is available!! also the valuation of wheldon road is now no longer the same as when earlier?
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| Quote ="Gaslight"Matterson has 1 year left, then he said that's it for his time at Cas so 2 years until Kear even has a chance
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No, he hasn't. He said it "may" be time to go but he's unsure at this moment in time.
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| Quote ="crowt123"after reading rl express today the article about cas have funding in place, i am quite surprised! the article mentions funding by wakefield council but i am sure that they have said that no funding is available!! also the valuation of wheldon road is now no longer the same as when earlier?'"
Without turning this into another stadium thread, the council went back to the original 2m each thing between the clubs.
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| Quote ="crowt123"after reading rl express today the article about cas have funding in place, i am quite surprised! the article mentions funding by wakefield council but i am sure that they have said that no funding is available!! also the valuation of wheldon road is now no longer the same as when earlier?'"
Presume it relates to the loan of the parcel of land. The most interesting thing in that article was RW admitting he did not know yet how much the stadium would cost but was basing it roughly on what Chesterfields cost as it is similar !!!
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| Quote ="Fully"I concur although I think the RFL will invite Toulouse in and kick both of us out regardless of circumstances.
That way they get the expansion again in Super League to benefit the French and they get a Rhubarb Triangle derby in the Championship to raise crowds and profile in the lower league (and also to maintain rivalry).'"
Good point. An easy way of raising the profile of the Championship, and a good way for us to train on our own youngsters and the wannabes from Leeds, Bradford and Huddersfield for a SL career. Put your RFL-tinted specs on and you can't really argue against it, can you?
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| Thinking about it, I wouldn't be surprised if teams had already been told, would a sponsor really agree a big deal with a team (Cas new one the biggest in club history, one of the biggest in SL) and would teams go about signing a fair few players when they aren't certain about what league the team will be in in just over a years time, because on the other hand, would the clubs accept deals with get out clauses for the players/sponsors.
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| Quote ="Gaslight"Without turning this into another stadium thread, the council went back to the original 2m each thing between the clubs.'"
=#FF4000It won't, because there are already more than enough of them, and any more stuff added to it will simply get deleted from this thread.
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| Quote ="Gaslight"Thinking about it, I wouldn't be surprised if teams had already been told, would a sponsor really agree a big deal with a team (Cas new one the biggest in club history, one of the biggest in SL) and would teams go about signing a fair few players when they aren't certain about what league the team will be in in just over a years time, because on the other hand, would the clubs accept deals with get out clauses for the players/sponsors.'"
Whilst you may be able to claim its the biggest in Cas history, not sure how you know what everyone elses sponsorship deals are worth to be able to claim it is one of the biggest in SL
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| Quote ="Gaslight"Thinking about it, I wouldn't be surprised if teams had already been told, would a sponsor really agree a big deal with a team (Cas new one the biggest in club history, one of the biggest in SL) and would teams go about signing a fair few players when they aren't certain about what league the team will be in in just over a years time, because on the other hand, would the clubs accept deals with get out clauses for the players/sponsors.'"
A sponsor will agree a deal with any team on the basis of the package they're sold. It isn't the responsibility of the RFL to inform potential sponsors of whether or not the team they're sponsoring will be playing in the top flight for the next few seasons or not.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Whilst you may be able to claim its the biggest in Cas history, not sure how you know what everyone elses sponsorship deals are worth to be able to claim it is one of the biggest in SL'"
Because it's Gaslight? He probably signed the deal off.
And regards his post, I disagree. A club tries to improve itself by increasing revenues, sponsorships and squads as it is all information they can include when it comes to licensing time. A company invests in a club to raise its own profile, don't think it cares what division they are in come a year's time (unless they sponsor for more than one year).
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Whilst you may be able to claim its the biggest in Cas history, not sure how you know what everyone elses sponsorship deals are worth to be able to claim it is one of the biggest in SL'"
as i said in an earlier thread if rumours are to be believed this deal is the mother of all deals in british RL, but as usual this was just made fun of by some of your fans. but also this is still just rumours and we will have to wait untill september to see if the rumours are true, but if they are i think it will fill one hell of a hole in our funding gap
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"A sponsor will agree a deal with any team on the basis of the package they're sold. It isn't the responsibility of the RFL to inform potential sponsors of whether or not the team they're sponsoring will be playing in the top flight for the next few seasons or not.'"
No but a company would do research and know Cas are on the verge, would they want to sponsor a club in such a position without getting a reassurance from the club about the position they will be in in just over a years time, because at the same time why would Cas want to sign a big deal with a company, and put in a clause saying they can walk away if the team get kicked out - that would be murder for Cas because in an event they do get kicked out, they would have to struggle to find a new (far lower paying) sponsor, which might not be forthcoming.
As for the deal being one of the biggest in Super League, it's basic logic that dictates it, I remember reading Diggerland was the 3rd biggest in the league 2 years ago - since then Quins, Leeds, Warrington & KR got new sponsors, lets say 3 of them overtook Diggerland, that would move them down to 6th - a new sponsor would mean Cas would have the 5th highest paying sponsor at the very least just by using (basic) logic.
Quote ="tigerman10"as i said in an earlier thread if rumours are to be believed this deal is the mother of all deals in british RL, but as usual this was just made fun of by some of your fans. but also this is still just rumours and we will have to wait untill september to see if the rumours are true, but if they are i think it will fill one hell of a hole in our funding gap
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IF it is really that big, and with what Poskitt was saying, it sounds like it, he has done a fantastic job there.
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| Quote ="Fully"Because it's Gaslight? He probably signed the deal off.
And regards his post, I disagree. A club tries to improve itself by increasing revenues, sponsorships and squads as it is all information they can include when it comes to licensing time. A company invests in a club to raise its own profile,=#FF0000 don't think it cares what division they are in come a year's time (unless they sponsor for more than one year).'" it does when it comes to television viewing, NL1 will get them a reduced package due to the lack of supporters there
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