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| Quote ="Mable_Syrup"I honestly can't see us bringing in anyone. We will go with wildie sykes and goulding and have all our fingers and toes crossed that we are at least 3rd from bottom. We need to change our way of thinking and put more money into retaining the great u16s at the club. Get the best on 6 year deals and do a Leeds or Wigan and bring through quality home grown players.'"
Wildie is OOC at the end of this season and no offers made to him yet.
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| Well I've been watching Trinity for 35years now and Smith is one of the most skillful I've seen in a Wakefield shirt. That doesn't mean he is the most effective.
With a team more in tune with him I think he'd have been even better.
Given time we'd have built the team though.
Not irreplaceable but I enjoyed watching him.
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| Quote ="Wildthing"Wildie is OOC at the end of this season and no offers made to him yet.'"
At this point in the season you would think he won't be getting that offer, even if he does its now only because needs must.
Always thought Matty would have been good enough to earn a squad players contract.
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| Quote ="Wildthing"Wildie is OOC at the end of this season and no offers made to him yet.'"
Isn't Goulding OOC as well?
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| We only have half a halfback next year (Sykes)
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| Quote ="The Dreadnought"We only have half a halfback next year (Sykes)'"
Yep a converted centre, it can only get better
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| Quote ="PopTart"Well I've been watching Trinity for 35years now and Smith is one of the most skillful I've seen in a Wakefield shirt. That doesn't mean he is the most effective.
With a team more in tune with him I think he'd have been even better.
Given time we'd have built the team though.
Not irreplaceable but I enjoyed watching him.'"
Exactly this. Smith is much more effective with a competent half alongside him to share the burden, hence when sykes was available he was very good. But when alongside luminaries like lee smith and washbrook everything has to go through him and team can target that and close down his space. But once alongside a guy who can give another option he is a real handful and one of the most naturally gifted ball players i've seen down bv. And one that was rarely injured.
Despite the positive spin that some people would like put on this we are a lesser side without him. And with the money we have, or rather don't have, available we will not get anyone near his calibre to replace him.
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| have you ever wondered why he dosent get injured, dosent take the line on for one thing,dosent do any tackling, agree he sends out a decent pass but any player worth his salt would only let him do it once .oh and his names tim smith not the pathetic timmy
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| Good player, not a great one.
Lost track of the amount of times I shouted "FFS smith" this season. Kirmond would have been a bigger loss in my eyes so if it helps keep the club afloat then thanks Tim for giving us some entertainment but I'm not crying about it.
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| So is someone gonna be added to the squad for tomorrow or are they just gonna pick from the remaining 18?
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"So is someone gonna be added to the squad for tomorrow or are they just gonna pick from the remaining 18?'"
Richard Agar is playing scrum half...
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| No biggy and if it gives Goulding and Kaye a chance next year then im all for it, nice bit if business.
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| Quote ="inside man"No biggy and if it gives Goulding and Kaye a chance next year then im all for it, nice bit if business.'"
Assuming they renew their contracts which I believe are up at the end of this season
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| Quote ="PHe"What about the half back who we will be facing tomorrow, where does DB come into your 'reckoning'?
We also 'lost' him.'"
Yep you're right Danny Brough was another great Wakefield half back we've sold some good players haven't we over the years and yet we're still in the smelly stuff financially.
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| Think the club is in so poor a financial state it couldn't offer new 1 year contracts to Wildie and Goulding.
I'd have thought this would now change with Smith off wage bill plus about £100,000 cash (if true) as Wildie provides good 7 & 9 cover.
Goulding should be played for the last 2 games at 6 and see how he goes to justify another 1 year contract.
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| Tim Smith utterly over rated. I am relieved it's not Danny Kirmond, who is 10 x more valuable to us than Mr, no look, chuck the ball anywhere, Sky commentator w%£k fest Smith. He can go and annoy Salford fans fo me and if it keeps us solvent, more fool them
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| I hope it is more than £100k to be honest but unfortunately they know we need it so could have offered less.
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| Goulding and Kay should be getting a shot these next two games. Goulding showed some nice touches at 6 last game for his part and I'd be happy to see him and Kay pair up in the halfs and show what they can do.
As for smith been overrated, maybe slightly but with chase as his 6 I think it's a pretty shrewd signing for them.
Smith still sets up plenty and it will be a loss. Not an earth shattering loss but still a loss all the same.
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| I think we should look at a loan signing from the NRL...for next season.
Someone like
Pita Godinet from the Warriors.
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| Id love young halfback from Canberra, Anthony Milford. Won't happen though...
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| Quote ="PopTart"I hope it is more than £100k to be honest but unfortunately they know we need it so could have offered less.'"
Alternatively, we knew they were cashed up and desperate, so we made them pay a good price?
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"Goulding and Kay should be getting a shot these next two games. Goulding showed some nice touches at 6 last game for his part and I'd be happy to see him and Kay pair up in the halfs and show what they can do.
As for smith been overrated, maybe slightly but with chase as his 6 I think it's a pretty shrewd signing for them.
Smith still sets up plenty and it will be a loss. Not an earth shattering loss but still a loss all the same.'"
I'm really not sure it is. Tim Smith has always played his best games for us alongside a steady organiser type player in Sykes and that's not what he'll have if playing alongside Maverick Chase.
I guess we'll see who is right next year but based on his performances for us, I am yet to be convinced it is the best pairing.
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| Quote ="sandaltrinityfan"Well that's true but that just shows how much of a one man team creatively we are.
Look, it's not just about Tim Smith, I am sick to the back teeth of ALL the rumours about players going. I was just as sick about the Kirmond rumour. In the Express it's clear there are going to be no signings without other things being done to allow them - not sure of the exact wording but I get the impression players have to go to free up money!
Perhaps that's it - we're selling Tim Smith so we can make a move for Tommy Lee.
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Or pay outstanding bills - which is a reality that all clubs need to deal with to keep financial, and clear debts for the next season. Reality of a business. And as previously said one player is not a team.
If this means dealing with debts and saving the club, and our good name, go for it!
Oops just read the statement from the club which was on the forum.
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| Just like to say that it's been an absolute pleasure reading your forum throughout this whole saga. You lot are gracious and class RL folk; a stark
contrast to the Cas fans who frequent our board. I wish you the very best for next season!
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