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| Quote ="BarnsleyTrinity"I've been waiting for this subject to come up as a Barnsley lad born and bred and a Barnsley FC fan .
The time to put some work in to attracting new fans from over here is right now , probably as greater time than there's ever been .
Barnsley FC are losing fans by the hundreds , the club is in serious managed decline and the apathy surrounding the club is significant .
There's a huge opportunity to tap in to this apathy and direct it towards Trinity with a decent marketing strategy , I don't actually have any concerns about Barnsley losing fans to Trinity , firstly the two sports aren't competitors as such given RL is primarily a summer sport and my opinion Barnsley deserve to lose fans given the way the club is run and the overall match day experience and the state of the stadium .
If you were to talk to Matt Ellis he'd probably tell you the same .
Darton , Kexborough , Staincross , Mapplewell , Royston , Athersley are less than half an hour from Belle Vue , I live in Staincross and it takes less than 15 minutes to get to Belle Vue .
You get people coming through those turnstiles , decent match day experience with food and drink , a nice warm evening and a cracking Super League game and I'll guarantee you'll get many returning .
Many Barnsley fans are crying out for something else to do such is the apathy and I think it's not just BFC but the way football has now gone .
I've followed the club all over the country and fallen out with it big time and there are hundreds like me .
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I agree with you entirely BT. I held a Barndsley FC season ticket for the last 22 years as well as a Trinity ticket, but packed in for several reasons thus: a} New team and new manager every season. You just get to know the players when it's "all change" once again, b) Too many Tuesday evening games in freezing wet weather,c) That long hike from the East Stand up Belgrave Avenue that nearly did me in on many occasions, d) A 15 minute car journey extended to a 70 minute journey when I started parking at the ground, owing to traffic congestion.
I've always thought that there was a large number of potential new Trinity fans in the Barnsley area. Not long ago there seemed to be a growing amateur RL scene in t'Tarn. We Played both Sheffield and St Helens at Oakwell in the not too distant past.
Matt, himself a Staincross lad, would seem the ideal ambassador to attract the fans across to Belle Vue
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| Quote ="FIL"My take on it is that we can nominate somewhere like Barnsley Local Authority area to boost our own catchment area ??'"
I remember reading the club news a couple of seasons ago or so and was pleasantly surprised at how many schools in that area we had officers/coaches going into. There were about 6 or 7 schools we linked up with if I remember rightly. It's an area we get fans from, we even landed ourselves with a great fan at the Oakwell many years ago that turned up trumps for us, can't think who though. Plus it's an area we've actively gone into schools to attract talent. I'm not sure where we stand at present but I wouldn't be surprised if we haven't kept up with the work we were doing in the South Yorkshire area under Carter and even taken it to the next level. It would be a good question for our Junior development guys or even DP.
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There are some really good points in this thread.
It would be worth someone (with the relevant local knowledge), dropping the club an Email at info@wakefieldtrinity.com and giving some feedback/suggestions.
I dropped them an Email sometime back with a suggestion about ticketing, and had a good reply back - so they really were interested to have suggestions/feedback.
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There are some really good points in this thread.
It would be worth someone (with the relevant local knowledge), dropping the club an Email at info@wakefieldtrinity.com and giving some feedback/suggestions.
I dropped them an Email sometime back with a suggestion about ticketing, and had a good reply back - so they really were interested to have suggestions/feedback.
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Quote ="WT_Midlander"There are some really good points in this thread.
It would be worth someone (with the relevant local knowledge), dropping the club an Email at info@wakefieldtrinity.com and giving some feedback/suggestions.
I dropped them an Email sometime back with a suggestion about ticketing, and had a good reply back - so they really were interested to have suggestions/feedback.'"
I did that, and also had a chat with Matt at the Forum, but obviously understand that he has quite a few things going on....
We even discussed my local which he's been in and knows some of my fellow punters there!
Will drop the club a line.
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Quote ="WT_Midlander"There are some really good points in this thread.
It would be worth someone (with the relevant local knowledge), dropping the club an Email at info@wakefieldtrinity.com and giving some feedback/suggestions.
I dropped them an Email sometime back with a suggestion about ticketing, and had a good reply back - so they really were interested to have suggestions/feedback.'"
I did that, and also had a chat with Matt at the Forum, but obviously understand that he has quite a few things going on....
We even discussed my local which he's been in and knows some of my fellow punters there!
Will drop the club a line.
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| Bit of a random one to throw in here but the YouTube site has had very few updates now for weeks.
The content on there has taken a nose dive recently. Last season saw it raise from nothing to 3.5k subscribers.
I do know that there is a lot going on with improvements and pre season starting and that they absolutely should take priority but it would be nice if the hard work continues on all the SM platforms.
It’s Christmas coming up and it would be nice to have some festive content videos etc with players to further grow the SM side (something we successfully started last season).
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| One other thing.
I was scrolling through SM reels earlier and I saw a reel of a sports team using their big screen to show fans but with filters on them such as crying filters etc.
I thought it would be quite a fun and novel thing to do for some light entertainment now we have a big screen perhaps pre match and half time.
Assuming the technology is there to do something like that.
We don’t necessarily have to do exactly that but there will be little ideas like this that could enhance game day.
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| Ellis mentioned he'd like to do things like that at the Shareholder meeting.
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| Quote ="Redscat"I agree with you entirely BT. I held a Barndsley FC season ticket for the last 22 years as well as a Trinity ticket, but packed in for several reasons thus: a} New team and new manager every season. You just get to know the players when it's "all change" once again, b) Too many Tuesday evening games in freezing wet weather,c) That long hike from the East Stand up Belgrave Avenue that nearly did me in on many occasions, d) A 15 minute car journey extended to a 70 minute journey when I started parking at the ground, owing to traffic congestion.
I've always thought that there was a large number of potential new Trinity fans in the Barnsley area. Not long ago there seemed to be a growing amateur RL scene in t'Tarn. We Played both Sheffield and St Helens at Oakwell in the not too distant past.
Matt, himself a Staincross lad, would seem the ideal ambassador to attract the fans across to Belle Vue'"
I too am a Barnsley supporter, but ultimately RL is my sport, and have gone off football over the past 15-20 years or so, and because of that struggle to justify shelling out on further ticket fees.
I do think trying to expand and tapping into the community is a great idea.
One question I would ask though, is it played in the schools, thats where to get them engaged
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| The other interest area to Trinity could be just in to Kirklees , I'm thinking about the Clayton West , Scissett , Denby Dale and Skelmanthorpe area which again has easy access to Wakefield and about half an hours drive to Belle Vue .
I don't believe it's a Giants hotbed , then again the Giants don't really have a hotbed so it's fair game territory in my opinion .
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| Quote ="BarnsleyTrinity"The other interest area to Trinity could be just in to Kirklees , I'm thinking about the Clayton West , Scissett , Denby Dale and Skelmanthorpe area which again has easy access to Wakefield and about half an hours drive to Belle Vue .
I don't believe it's a Giants hotbed , then again the Giants don't really have a hotbed so it's fair game territory in my opinion .'"
If it's a Huddersfield postcode it will already be in their score.
I assume you can't overlap, just pitch to include a new area.
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| Quote ="BarnsleyTrinity"The other interest area to Trinity could be just in to Kirklees , I'm thinking about the Clayton West , Scissett , Denby Dale and Skelmanthorpe area which again has easy access to Wakefield and about half an hours drive to Belle Vue .
I don't believe it's a Giants hotbed , then again the Giants don't really have a hotbed so it's fair game territory in my opinion .'"
Wakefield have been involved with Emley, Newsome and surrounding areas for a few years now, had some cracking young lads down especially Emley
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| Quote ="PopTart"If it's a Huddersfield postcode it will already be in their score.
I assume you can't overlap, just pitch to include a new area.'"
Well Flockton is out that way and it has a Wakefield postcode.not sure about those named
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| I grew up in Emley and went to school in Skelmanthorpe and can confirm it’s HD8. Both Wakey and Giants do bits of outreach round there but there are more Huddersfield fans just because that’s where people identify with. BLM is right - Wakefield do more work with Emley Moor and their juniors so benefit from that. But ultimately it’s not got the potential fanbase Barnsley has, for all the reasons outlined by others above.
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| It's not about where we can develop players.
It's about where we can prove we develop players and I assume supporters in areas not covered by a rugby team.
So Barnsley is fair game but Huddersfield or Kirklees isn't. We can get players from there but it won't count as our area as it is already allocated to Huddersfield or Batley/Dewsbury
Otherwise Leeds could say Wakefield area is theirs.
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| Can Wigan or Warrington claim Las Vegas?
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/super-league-clubs-alerted-to-surprise-las-vegas-recruitment-opportunity
Reckon Ste Mills should plan a trip.'"
Definitely so, it could pay for itself, and it would be good to see the club's name out there mixing it with the big boys. He seems the kind of guy who likes to be one step ahead of the competition, if possible as well.
If there were some prospects over the pond, I wonder how the RFL would handle their categorisation under quota rules because I can't see many clubs wasting their valuable spots on ifs and maybes. We've got to make it look enticing for all parties, to break new ground in RL and a huge potential player pool in the US.
They could maybe bring some kind of rules for potential US players to gain said traction over there where they initially don't count as quota players. Obviously, it's all pie in the sky atm, and the very early days but still, it's very interesting and a thing that's been brought up so many times over the years. How can we make use of all those thousands of top athletes who don't make the NFL or play elsewhere? Crack that and it's a huge game changer in England and Aus long term,
I know when Toronto was making their mark and talking a good game, they had some trialists come over etc but it was never done properly IMO, where they got guys trying out who had a real chance to succeed.
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"Definitely so, it could pay for itself, and it would be good to see the club's name out there mixing it with the big boys. He seems the kind of guy who likes to be one step ahead of the competition, if possible as well.
If there were some prospects over the pond, I wonder how the RFL would handle their categorisation under quota rules because I can't see many clubs wasting their valuable spots on ifs and maybes. We've got to make it look enticing for all parties, to break new ground in RL and a huge potential player pool in the US.
They could maybe bring some kind of rules for potential US players to gain said traction over there where they initially don't count as quota players. Obviously, it's all pie in the sky atm, and the very early days but still, it's very interesting and a thing that's been brought up so many times over the years. How can we make use of all those thousands of top athletes who don't make the NFL or play elsewhere? Crack that and it's a huge game changer in England and Aus long term,
I know when Toronto was making their mark and talking a good game, they had some trialists come over etc but it was never done properly IMO, where they got guys trying out who had a real chance to succeed.'"
If they're new to RL then they wouldn't count on the quota anyway. We'd effectively be their first RL club so would be fed trained. Same applied to John Davetanivalu the other year, and Mitieli Vulikijapani at Hull.
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| Of course, simple really.
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