Did someone on here say that they don't run all the teams that most other SL sides do?

Think its Leigh mate that don't run all the other teams.

Barring a divine intervention our club enters the championship next season , what is needed now from the club for the disillusioned fans is a statement of intent from club and new owner as to what their visions are for the club going forwards .I’m not talking of contracts and the likes but surely we have plans in place for every eventuality as tough as it is . For the longer a statement is forthcoming it just adds fuel to the fire of the conspiracy theorists that abound at our club

They can't really do that yet. We are not mathematically down.
Plenty of time for statements of intent.

I know that but there isn’t plenty of time as of next week if we lose to Leigh we are down, and statements should have been written for either eventualities and be in place to let the long suffering fans know exactly what is going to happen going forwards ,and In fact who will be leading the charge at the club . For far too long the fans have been kept in the dark and have been treated like second class citizens , do they not realise without us there is no club . A little bit of honesty will go a long way in my mind to gel the club and fans going forwards from this point

How many years have we been told by the current incumbents that they do not have the resources to move the club forward. We have faced problems due to failures of management resulting in the ground capacity being reduced because we did not have the correctly trained staff in place. How many times has the issue of marketing been raised or the lack of it.
I would guess without the additional revenue we get from being in the SL the club would continue to decline under their management. They obviously lack the skills to bring in extra money in previous seasons so why would you believe they could with the new stand.
It is quite clearly time for them to go and a more professionally organised owner and team take over. I have said many times accountants do not have the skill set to run companies but they do know how to limit expenditure. They play an important part in any companies profitability but not development.

When you say compared to previous seasons, do you mean the directors who took us to admin or the ones who failed to improve the North Stand terrace leaving it unsafe for these directors to fix.

They are not perfect but let's not start glorifying the previous regimes who took us to the brink on numerous occasions.

No I mean during the currency incumbents, how many times have we heard from them that they do not have the resources to move the club forward. I was merely pointing out that the club would not survive a season in the Championship under their guidance due to the reduction in finances and their obvious shortcomings.
The reduced capacity from last season was all of their making. I was not glorifying the previous regimes and definitely not the current ones I leave that to others like you for example.

I'm baffled that you are still defending this lot, how can anyone defend the people who have run us into the championship, I'm astounded

Funny, I've not noticed anyone offering to put their hand in their pocket and invest heavily in the club.

When you say, “the ones who took us to admin” do you also refer to the ones who took us over when we were on the brink of non existence (Ted & Brian). They’re also the same ones who ran us efficiently for something like 15 years, helping to get us out of the Championship, become League Leaders, win a Grand Final and get us into Superleague. Yes it ended badly but they at least tried to and did improve us.

I can only explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.

Let me explain it this way.

If you had a beloved car that was running a bit slow and you took it to a garage and you paid them to fix it, and it wasn't any better....and was even scratched a bit....you'd have a right to complain.

This scenario is your beloved car breaks down in the middle of a really rough neighbourhood where everyone wants what you’ve got in the car.
Some have tried go fix in the past but just got it going for a little bit.
Two guys come past in a car and stop to help.
They replace some of the broken bits, but not all of them. They get your car running and no one gets chance to take your valuables.
It isn't as fast as it was in the 60s but it's going, and the new parts will keep it going for quite a while.
You also have two mates in the back that constantly moan about the air con and long journey, but don't offer any help to make it better.

You come to a T junction.
Toll road right takes you home quicker but you don't have the money
Left is bumpy and takes longer but the changes they made to your car means you can handle it.

I'd thank the two guys. Even though they could have risked a loan to go on the toll road, or sold some of your valuables they got you going and out of trouble and they made your car ready for the long journey......despite the guys in the back giving them abuse every step of the way.

I'll see if I can draw some pictures too

I agree. Same as the current lot.
Do you judge Ted on what he did well or what he did badly?

In our case the two guys in question have fitted some dodgy seat covers and given us a stick-n-hoop to get home on

The seat covers may be dodgy but the engine is as good as you can get

Barnsley gull that's the easy way out, and one expected from the present owners
You seem to be towing Carter's line. On things,
Supporters and fans have every right to express views and be critical of the owners.

I think they have been given an easy ride, they have had 10 years to promote market and make the club a positive place to be. Unfortunately it's been a stink hole for players and supporters and if big Dave hadn't feturned things would have got worse and quite possibly nasty.
Sorry but to defend and offer support to the owners in my book gives them the right to do what they want.

Are they not in negotiations to bring in a new owner?
I actually agree we need a new team in but we don’t want to go down the Glover route (although as an individual I had respect for what he did to save the club) So, the takeover is taking time that doesn’t mean it’s not happening, of course.

I judge him on the balance of everything he did and we had some amazing times as fans under the ownership of Ted & Brian
As stated, we avoided being wound up, had an amazing season ‘98’ won promotion then had another amazing season, our first in SL. We watched some scintillating Rugby League, built the hospitality block, refurbished the Cats bar then came Ted’s semi retirement and the advent of John Pearman where it all went wrong. Yes we went into administration but the net result was we were saved and remained in Superleague so we really only suffered reputational damage. I knew Ted and Brian quite well, they were Home and Away lifelong Wakefield Trinity fans and became owners of the club to save the club!

As for Michael Carter his motivation for owning the club was to protect his own investment, like that fact or not it’s the truth!
I also know Michael Carter fairly well, going right back to the 90s & naughties, he’s not the man he portrays himself to be in public, you have to have seen the real him to know that because he’s very good at putting a front on.
Under his ownership we were saved from Administration albeit for other reasons to Ted & Brian but saved nonetheless. We had an awful season after selling our best players had one maybe two decent seasons and then nothing but dross on the field and derision from the boardroom.
We’ve built a new stand, half refurbished another one, which is a big step in the right direction but some see it as a poor return on the original promise of an all singing and dancing stadium.
Ultimately we’ve been relegated to the lower division with a fan base that’s split, a coach that’s not fit for the job and a squad that will struggle to be mid table next year.

That’s my cold and calculated judgement and as I’ve said before, I don’t blame anyone for seeing it differently because you can only use your own experiences to make that judgment

So Ted probably had 8 good years (1992-2000) but the pooh then hit the fan with his pal Pearman. Lots of wheeling dealing going on behind the scenes after that.

Maybe 8 years is about the norm unless you have Stuart Hadfield about?

I don't know Carter really. Know Ted.
I don't disagree with anything you say, except maybe the protect investment part. It clearly had to be more than that as he's never tried to receive anything more from his investment. Its all just a donation in the end.

If I remember rightly though, ownership of the stadium was lost under Ted which was a big thing. Took Carter a long time and a lot of money to fix that. And the good times on the field were great but again, because we pushed that and didn't try to fix the stadium, especially the North Stand meant Carter had to invest money there so he couldn't invest in the team.
All those decisions have consequences to the next owners on the list. Same as will happen now

Apart from Matthew Ellis of course. But the current owners won’t sign off on things just yet.

If I remember rightly though, ownership of the stadium was lost under Ted which was a big thing. Took Carter a long time and a lot of money to fix that. And the good times on the field were great but again, because we pushed that and didn't try to fix the stadium, especially the North Stand meant Carter had to invest money there so he couldn't invest in the team.
All those decisions have consequences to the next owners on the list. Same as will happen now'"

1) because we needed it. No one knew how long covid would last or how it would affect us. Silly thing to blame someone for that.
2) because that's how much it cost. Again, surely you know you can't just say you want to buy it for what was paid years earlier.

As I've said, they are not perfect but they've handled things as they come, some of which were consequences of decisions made before their time.

No I'm not.
Just would like posters on here to maybe put their money in - instead of moaning about people that already have.

Well the first bit about protecting investment came straight from the horses mouth

Note of correction it didn’t take any of Carters money to buy the stadium back and likewise Carter didn’t invest any of his own money to fix the North stand. In fact, the stadium was left to rot for many years under Carter as was the pitch