that will be me then, not been to a game since wigan game at home or do you want to close the door on me then, one game that I'm going to find time and the money to afford it

It's not, it makes our name more important.

The one thing we don't have is information regarding what went on over the previous years. We have been informed on several occasions that we would receive an update but still nothing and we are now being asked to relocate to Dewsbury. I expect that once again season tickets will be on sale shortly before we even know where we are expected to go and on what day or time we will kick off.
I guess looking at the comments that you all know whose fault it is or are you just guessing and looking for a scapegoat. It's the council's fault, it's the developer's fault how do you know enlighten us with the facts.
You indicate that the local conservative MP has helped us, once again please explain how because I have not noticed anything from her. I regret you will have to accept that we are a small cog in the WMDC district and the friends of our MP have made it very difficult. Why would the council want to invest limited resources into us we do not generate any income, we are not a big employer and in many ways we do not help ourselves. We do not even try to keep the ground tidy, instead we let it slowly deteriorate, what happened to the money we saved.
If SWAG would like to furnish us with what they know than we can better access what to do or are we still continuing to negotiate.

Seriously having a Wildcats suffix or not will make no difference. Playing games out of the city will.

I'm sure people like TRB and the rest work tirelessly to find a solution, only last week he posted that they believed a 'no brainer' offer was on the table but was rejected.
It takes a strong group of people to put together time effort and a collective plan to try and take the club forward, only for it to be tossed aside, like it's a game.
So before everyone jumps to their conclusions, cut the people who are trying their best, some slack.

Why do the talks remain secret because there is apparently nothing left to talk about and MC appears to be posting that we will be moving. If that is the case we are all entitled to know why this is being agreed in our names.

Some time ago I advocated on this forum that perhaps the whole sorry Newmarket saga should be reported to the magazine Private Eye who fortnightly carry an article called "Nooks and Corners" that exposes the suspected and alleged wrong doings of local councils and public bodies particularly with regards to town planning and development matters

To me the whole story would seem an ideal subject matter for investigation and publication. It would name and shame our beloved Council Leader and his cronies for what they are to the whole nation. emphasis could be place on the fact that what was designated a site for a community sports stadium now houses nothing but a giant Hotpoint fridge!!!

When I first suggested contacting Private Eye I received a reply to the effect that perhaps then wasn't quite the right time for such steps. Surely now, when things have seemed to reach as far as they can, the time has come.

Please, if someone far more eloquent than myself (are you reading Vastman, TRB, Sandalcat et al?), could put something together and contact Private Eye with a view to them taking the matter up and exposing Box and co. for the corrupt creeps that they are, and for what they have done to this once proud city and its historic, iconic rugby league club whose terraces I have graced for sixty years.


Every time I cross Kirkgate Bridge and glance across at that mis-shapen shoebox called The Hepworth I think, if only a fraction of that money could have been put to use at Belle Vue. I'm surprised Box didn't have it built at Castleford and called it The Henry Moor Gallery.

but you don't have a name, you hide behind the name
Scarlet Pimpernell

He has a point though, the time has probably come for some in depth public statements.

On a seperate note, how will the club moving out in a few months affect the brewery?

Just a couple of points.

First of all, from all those who do not want us to leave Wakefield, I understand your reasoning but can you tell us were we can play if we remain. Belle Vue is dead and we can't stay there ,so where else can we play.

Secondly for ll those who want to name and shame Box, it will take much more than that to worry him. He will just grin and s at you, the guy is thick skinned and believes he is totally untouchable.

Guys, I put a brief post on Page 27 of this thread.

When we have returned from France next week I am suggesting that the Trust puts out a statement or maybe even organises a Public Meeting which states the position.

There is no need for another public meeting - many have taken place as this sorry saga has played out, and they're always a pointless exercise in preaching to the choir; a roomful of people who want a new stadium, a panel of people trying to get one - but no representation from the people with any ability or responsibility to actually make it happen. And talk of protest is equally pointless - we did that, with a surprisingly high turnout, and it didn't make a jot of difference; HM Inspector was convinced, made a ruling, which was utterly disregarded by the time he was in the car and on his way home.

The only option now is legal challenge, which the club don't have the money for - so it would appear that we're done. Again.

To be honest i doubt a protest would gain anything like the numbers it did previously also. So many people are so tried and fed up of the whole situation that they have washed their hands of it, especially given they know deep down it won't make a blind bit of difference anyway.

I entirely agree with your comments. Legal action is the only route as far as money is concerned I have been informed it is not that much in the grand scheme of things, about the same as we pour down the bottomless pit of BV to keep it alive season after season. I think spending the money on a legal challenge would be a more prudent investment than buying the yearly 'sticking plasters' to keep BV limping along for another season

It would likely run comfortably into a six figure fee with no guarantee of success, still a big risk.

But for all the talk of legal action, what, exactly will the legal action be for and who will it be against. Are we talking about the council here and it's decision to allow the Newcold build outside of the unilateral undertaking? If so i know from working in planning for many years there are a myriad of technicalities there that a good lawyer could exploit and i've no doubt the council would employ a pretty shrewd operator in that department. Bare in mind also that any defence from them comes from the public purse, given most of Wakefield couldn't give a stuff about whether Trinity get a new stadium or not the public support for clubs/trusts legal action may not be all that high in times when cuts are still having to be made. Other than that the council have done nothing other than offer a lack of support by the sounds, not really basis for a legal arguement even if it is the wrong stance to take. I have to agree that protests at this stage are probably pointless, the situation has moved on from there and having worked with Peter Box in a former life it will be like water off a ducks back.

Also what is hoping to be achieved by taking action? It won't suddenly force the council to build a stadium, they never had that responsibility anyway, it was always the developer. They are not going to all of a sudden build a stadium either, they would walk away from the project. Remember there was a trigger point that was to enable the build. Even if the freezer unit was included in 60,000 square meter limit the limit still wouldn't have been reached so they could still build another small unit somewhere and then call it off. So taking the developer to court won't work, they haven't actually broken any rules. They made a planning application for the freezer unit that was accepted. Not much else has happened on their part up to press so are untouchable and until they decide to build past the trigger limit nothing much can be done there. Morally wrong yes, but legally not.

Sadly I see no way in which even a successful legal challenge regarding the Newcold build will result in the club getting its new stadium. It may 'prove a point' or 'put some people in their place' which would be nice for about five minutes but ultimately the club will still be stuck with nowhere to go and have even more resentment built up against it in the corridors of power and potentially throughout the wider district. Given the costs involved and the chances of a successful outcome and what will be gained from that it's a tough decision to decide whether to proceed. I have to agree that a full statement is needed to clarify issues sooner rather than later.

What a horrible corrupt world we live in, i can not find the words to express my utter contempt for that vile 6 fingered inbred Box. Aabsoloutely disgusting that this has been allowed to happen and i for one do not believe that box did not know all along what was going off, i doubt he got a brown paper envelope he would have done this for the pleasure.I hope you rot in hell box for what you have done to this once great city.

As one of the inside battlers SC I fully appreciate your efforts and that of others. Posters on here are venting their anger and frustration that's all. It must be incredibly hard for such as yourself to have restraint - but with respect, you do have some inside knowledge. the posters on here are fed only tit bits and rumour which builds up more frustration and again with respect we are constantly told a statement will be forthcoming.
I'm sure you fully intend to put something out in the near future but I very much fear it will not be what the supporters want to hear.
A sincere thanks for your endeavour though!

Agree with the above. Legal action might make a few people sweating but in reality it will not resolve the primary issue here and that's a new stadium for Wakefield. Yorkcourt have no intention nor money to finance a new build or redevelopment. Legal won't change that. Save the cash and put it into a pot to look at buying a plot of land Trinity can call home.

The battle was lost many months ago with Mackie and Box having their hands up TRB and crews ar5se, just like Harry Corbett with Sooty and Sweep. Maybe time now to do as much P.R. damage as possible to the individuals involved.

When working as a contract engineer years ago, I had discussions with an expert on contract law, his bottom line advise was carry on with talks until you compromise reaching agreement, keep away from lawyers they will sue their granny for a dollar.

Step one would be expensive, as I'm assuming it would be action against the council for not fulfilling their duties in enforcing the unilateral undertaking.

Let's say we win that battle.

Don't Yorkcourt then turn round and say, sorry guys, no money?

At best, it's a threat to force Yorkcourt to stump up cash they haven't got. What it won't do is buy Belle Vue, especially if the Super Bowl site has gone.

I can bet the planning application for whatever goes there will whizz through the town hall like Nigel Wood at a buffet.

Sir Rodney Walker has been very quiet about all this which is unlike him.

I'm sure his ears pricked up when Slugger mentioned the buffet.

Somebody posted on Twitter that wdmc have boosted that they have oldest rugby league clubs in the super league , mc says not for much longer