Anyone know how many pledged £1000 last night(estimate)

Last time Trinity were at Wembley, you had Mike Lampkowski at scrum half. Your opponents Widnes had GB RL legend Vinty Karalius coaching. If your memory doesn't go back that far, you might like to think about where names like Kris Radlinski, John Stankevitch or Ikram Butt come from.

I think you're absolutely right, but I can't see there being much sympathy for that view from the Championship clubs that have been living with that reality for a number of years now, while we've been dining at the top table.



The RFL are probably no worse than most other large governing bodies in that respect. OK, they have the smallest membership of all the other major sports, but in terms of satisfying the personal ambitions of those who run the show, they're no worse than the FA, the RFU, FIFA, UEFA.... They turn in a profit, though, so they must be doing a good job. My

The immigration point is irrelevant to the issue. I've seen immigration blamed for some things in my time, but Trin's plight is a new one on me. It's because we are performing not very well in a decrepit stadium that costs a fortune to enter.

whats that got to do with the price of fish. its a trickle over 40 year, not exactly a flood is it

But we have some great 'dance routine' acts

Rugbyball - I apologise if indeed I am mistaken (but he does have a similar posting style to you and spells inquiry as enquiry... I know I am being a pedent about this but I don't care!

). If true, I take it back... I am not being paranoid, you mistake me with others!

I am interested why you still don't think it stacks up though... the one issue the PI and delay has done has brought the site specfic LDF into play and therefore 65% of the B8 is going to stack. I think the longer this takes the better it becomes (which is ironic in some ways) for this getting through the PI. The recent policy change on car parking spaces and a move towards greener car options by the Government is huge shift in thinking and only strengthens one of Newmarket's weaker points in policy.

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Which most of the objectors are concerned about. To say that they have been dismissed is misleading to say the least.

But hey, keep up the good work with the petition which probably will be dismissed in the same way.

That Craig Kopczak lad we were after a few seasons ago from Bradford... that'll be all that "white flight"...

Although age and time wise I cant really go as long as you have, however I too invested /donated money to the club for years, bought everything going, did everything I could to support and build the brand of Wakefield Wildcats, but over the past few years I too lost confidence, became literally bored with the entertainment on the field and found the entertainment off it more entertaining in a comical way over the shambles that came forward.

Now I can only echo your sentiments and have lost total interest in it all and wouldnt shed a tear if we ceased to exist in all fairness. In my eyes things are that bad, and there would have been no way Id have been saying that 5 years ago.

Do you reckon (for example) the Korkidas or Demetriou families arrived in Australia, from Greece, with a love for and deep knowledge of rugby league? Did Ellery Hanley's dad play rugby league when he was growing up in the Caribbean? If there's loads of Poles in Wakefield, Trinity should be doing their damnedest to get them involved, not using it as an excuse.

Well, thank goodness we've got that. Seem to have been more bothered about getting dancers to enrol in classes than running a rugby league club for the past few years.

Where's John Harbin and a rousing speech to beg for our cash this time? It's 2001 all over again. Belle Vue was inadequate then, it was in 1998, it was in 1992 and years before.

Oh, and Wakefield No.1, I'm glad £1000 may not be much to you, but for many it's more than a months wage, and electric, transport and food will keep the family going, throwing it at a 'professional' rugby club would not.

(P.S. Why don't mods just delete trolls rather than have them derail discussion?)

Strangely I think there is a huge amount of sympathy for you , this situation you find yourself in was predicted by many of us lower tier fans 3/4 years ago

It seems we were right

The RFL are willing to provide Championship clubs with money to ' chase ' sponsorship and corporate finance , when as you have discovered , it is basically impossible without a cast iron guarantee of what you can achieve , noody with money will support any club with a glass ceiling above it , just as you are struggling to bring in finance as you are walking on a frozen pond

Franchising eh , great innit

no but they were born into a rugby league culture and spent there life round one. why dont they play rl in barnsley or newcastle because its not in there upbringing weve spent 100 and odd years trying to spread the game and we cant spread it 10 mile down the road to an area which was a mining area. i played with ikram but as a junior but even his career didnt actually help did it

First week in January of 2011 and already Ive found post of the year and I doubt it will ever be beaten.

good post, think weve spent enough coin over the years mate.

Come on allmatt/BigAlf you know that is not what ChampagneTroll meant and what I said had been dismissed and you know it... you know I agree with you on the valid points (I mentioned above), we only disagree on the discharging of those points, I think then can be adequately discharged and you don't... now that is at least a valid debate so don't let your high standards drop!

As for the Statements, I still don't think it is about the numbers game and on reflection I think Leeds City Council was the primary reason for the call in. However, this "no one local wants it crap" being used by the NIMBY's is just that and that is what we are going to set out to prove. Also this other bit of Tory crap, the big society, has changed the game slightly and if people do want this then they need to say so, the argument being that if similar numbers of people say yes and say no then they cancel each other out and it will come down to policy. The idea of the public meeting and Statements is to hit the issues of the B8 head on and then understand how that changes things for people. We are of course presenting our strong views but I would still argue we are not telling any lies to get peoples support, we are speculating on the LDF change being accepted, but nothing more.

Also, I have been meaning to post this for a while. I got some clarity on the site specific LDF proposal and the 95ha direct from the planning policy team. The four sites have been identified and recommended, Newmarket was the largest at 33.28 ha and a site at Shilling Hill 23.88ha, Trinity Farm (ironic!) 26.23 and a small site at Cutsyke (don't have full details on this one but about 7ha) which takes them to around 90ha and they are hoping to pick up some other options during the plan period. Interestingly, Newmarket was a clear first choice because of former use and location, as all the other sites are agricultural (and Greenbelt of course). Now they didn't tell me this but there is a rumour that they might actual extend the Newmarket site and drop either Shilling Hill or Trinity Farm from the LDF as they are all either grade 2 and 3a use! If they do then that will cover all the planned B8 at Newmarket... so it would just be the stadium and B2 that would be the remaining issues!

If anyone wants a short break from this topic have a quick view of the RED PASSION forum where the Wrexham soccer fans are accusing MOSS and ROBERTS,the owners of Crusaders as being asset strippers as they try to sell the Racecourse Ground.( With your luck at the moment they will probably have a new stadium constructed at Aberystwyth by this time next month )

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Rod Findlay was only at the RFL for 3 years.He was a solicitor dealing with medical negligence prior to that.

I worked for the RFL in 1999 and 2000 and Rod was there then, to mu knowledge he only left the RFL two years ago so by my deduction he was there at least 9 years.

But he was brought in to oversee the first licence process , now he seems to have turned into some kind of RFL expansion troubleshooter , but a solicitor would not be my first choice of proffessional to kick start struggling clubs

If you worked for the RFL in those years can I ask you a little question.

Have you seen the film Big ? With Tom Hanks in. If so, remember the part where he attends his first meeting about the transformer and answer this.

During the meeting where the top dogs of the RFL said they would revolutionise the sport of Rugby league, didnt you put your hand up and say "I dont get it".

It might have solved all these problems from the past 5 years.

Had I been in such a meeting I would certainly have had my say and probably found myself locked out the following day.

If only life were that simple.

Exactly.

BRING BACK JOHN HARBIN