Maybe MC will sound him out tonight

Pimp seems to have some sort of agenda against the club, funny kind of supporter, I too take exception to his post after what as been achieved since the new board took over and this sort of thing is one of the reasons I seldom post now.

Yes, when they have finished shutting down all of the sporting facilities and the population of the city becomes even more obese, some bright spark will be saying that we should invest in activities for young people.
The banking crash has caused no end of problems, not least 8 years of austerity cuts and it's a hole that we will still be trying to climb out of in another 10 years time.
You could write a book or film on Wakefield's quest for a new ground and the next chapter looks like it may be the defining moment for sport in the city.

You're wrong about the 'covenant' that was actually a planning condition - and your insinuations about self interest are crass and insulting; you clearly have a personal agenda, and pretty much everything you post reeks of it. I'd assume you were James Elston in disguise, but you're too articulate.

I have to say i don't see how MC would stand to gain from moving from BV, other than no longer having to stand the public liability insurance which i don't think anyone can begruge him for. There are questions that will need answers and in time i hope we get those but until things play out a little longer and our destination is known then i'm happy to wait.

There are fans who will follow them anywhere and will back MC whatever, there are fans who don't want to leave BV under any circumstances and will never attend again. But from speaking to quite a few this week the majority are keeping their powder dry for now and seeing how this pans out and i put myself in this category. I can neither fully support MC's stance nor chastise it as we don't yet know where we will end up or the finer details. He deserves the benefit of any doubt until we know more and only then can people truely decide if its for the best or not.

Not sure what MC stands to gain personally with some of these suggestions? Didn't him and CB buy the club for a small amount and underwrite the debts, then oversee them being cleared. The club has no assets beyond it's playing staff and basic equipment. There isn't a super league 'licence' and even if there was you cannot just punt one on it would belong to the RFL.

I've no idea what MC & CB are like away from the game but found them both to be polite enough around the club, and have seen both getting their hands dirty of matchdays helping out so the idea they are somehow in it for a few sovs is a bit bizarre to me. Surely any amount of money you'd be talking about wouldn't pay for the time and services of these two gentlemen with their skillsets for a period of four/five years?

Got no idea where the club is heading now other than we're playing away from BV next year, I'll just wait, see and keep supporting the lads.

This is partly for the Phil Clarke thread, but there's more to come next week. We play Leigh next Thursday, the worst night for attendances. Leigh last night had one stand completely shut along one side.

So next Thursday we are going to have a dark and half-empty Belle Vue. They are going to talk about the last time Leigh were in Super League, when they were poor and playing in a decrepit old stadium. "Look at them now!" will be the cry. Flying high and playing in a super dooper all-seater. Wakey in that time? Not even as we were, but Belle Vue probably even more decrepit, albeit with a roof on the North Stand.

The problem is, they're right, and it's a disgrace.

I can see where MC is in this ..Stuck between that Rock and a hard place...the stadium is on its last legs it does the club no favours yes its a nostalgic place for us fans but is well past its sell by date. We don't own the bloody thing to start with may be with hindsight the club should have told Yorkcourt we were going to put a bid in when it came up for sale and that we would then seek recompense for them not coming up with the goods though with the amount of monetary assets they have would not be much I guess. Even if we had bought the ground the whole lot would need a rebuild at a very big cost and before anyone says we could have done what Fev did I will ask how many of those great fantastic fans came down and helped to at least tart the place up a bit and repair some of the Barriers.. NOT MANY. What do we do stay where we are and get less funding so less to keep the players we need for SL that would end up with Championship rugby and going part time then comes a fair few fans walking away. Then comes the fact the club have less money to keep up with quality part time players and another down turn a drop to championship 1 that's not looking at the fact the ground rent would not drop to reflect where we would be eventually we would go bust. When MC came in we were in a hell of a state the bloke told it as it was we had to make cuts on all fronts or go under we had hard times to face the guy made no promises apart from we would still have a club. Yes I think we could be more informed by the trust but you also have to remember that these blokes are doing it for free and have to be aware of what they say for legal reasons can you imagine if they said something and then faced legal action and god forbid they lost their home to pay for it. I just hope that when everything comes out in the open heads will role though wont be surprised if they don't. All we as fans can do is sit tight and when the call to arms comes as I'm sure it will is take those arms up and show we can fight like hell for the club we love.

The very least we can be doing is taking to social media and trying to bring attention on our plight and the broken promises of various parties.

There are a small group of Wakey fans who are doing this on Twitter and Facebook - but more would be better. The council twitter account gets questioned every day, been trying to involve the Express and Yorkshire post but there's not enough to make ripples really.

I'd urge everyone on here to make a twitter account (you can be incognito if you wish - most people are) and just raising the issue.

It's the most public forum in the world for bringing pressure and is visible by everybody and try and build some sympathy and ramp up pressure.

As long as we dont engage in abuse or anything that would make us look stupid then worth a shot.

Good tactics could be commenting on posts by Council/YEP/Wakey Express/National papers asking for an investigation or asking why WMDC isn't standing by it's commitments etc.

Might come to nothing but its easy to do and may have some effect.

Totally agree, keep together and keep fighting.

See they are fighting along with Mary Creag to reinstate the council bonfire. No talk of doing the same for the stadium though.

Yes tens of thousands attend the yearly event in wakey park.
I have never seen tens of thousands at the event although I must admit haven't been for yonks.

I think I will reject your kind offer because you have followers who still believe you will lead them to the promised land (ground). I hope their faith is justified and you have a plan to secure our future in super league at a ground within the local area.
I guess we will only find out what that is by allowing you to complete your plan and let's hope it is successful.

WHY DON'T WE JUST ACCEPT THE FEATHERSTONE OFFER??? It's a lovely little ground, and we can all get a good night's sleep without any worrys!!!!! I'd love to stay at BV even in the state that it's in, but would attend at Fev willingley.

Play like we did tonight, wherever we will be playing will be empty with poor performances like that.

With supporters like you sprouting crap we will be ! Do what your lass ssys and go watch Hull .kr and stop there .

Eastern wild cat has a point.
That's why attendances are on the slide you never know what your going to get with Wakey and only the die hards are willing to take that chance.
It's been like that for as.long as I can remember and it's unlikely to attract new blood attending.

Politics? The only reason I can think of..

Fev would definitely be a better option IMO, good little ground and pretty local, it's just crap for parking! I imagine we will be looking to move out of the Wakefield district for political reasons though, maybe this is our final card in trying to enforce a deal with the ground

I worked with, and supported, 3no Chairmen during this process. IMO they have all genuinely tried, even the Andrew / James set up that lasted 2 minutes. Michael has worked damned hard for this club and deserves support whilst he runs it. We don't always agree, but I respect his position and would ask others to the same.

You mention Ted, and I started in all this under Ted and worked closely with him on it. He still harbours hopes that we can resolve all this, but he sold the ground (admittedly in good faith) whilst we didn't have a deal signed and sealed for a new ground (it was Thornes Park at the time), which if he'd not done, or if we hadn't run up debts that needed paying off, would have us in a very different situation now. No one tried harder than Ted and no one put in more effort to sort this though - it just didn't work out!

As Michael has already stated, if anyone genuinely wants to get involved, please come forward. We keep going!

Politics is the reason we are not in the new stadium right now.

We will get our Community Stadium in the City of Wakefield. Keep fighting and stick together never give up. If we leave Belle Vue I'm going Dewsbury with our corporate boxes and roofs or outside bet Barnsley whatever is the best deal and SL accepts as adequate.

This.

We've far too many like him. It's as though they're at their happiest when we lose. The Facebook page is full of them and it's embarrassing.

If I were in Carters shoes, I'd walk away now. Luckily for us, he seems an intensely committed individual.

If Michael Carter leaves this club it's finished,the club was a basket case when he took over those who criticise ought to think back and remember how bad it has been run for the last 40 years and how we got to this position I think mc will do what's best for wt and we should back his judgement those who have a go should step forward and try it they wouldn't last a month I'll bet.

I was merely stating a fact.

One of the reasons of our crowds dropping is due to poor performances and results.

For the record I wasnt onw of those fans that crept out last night with 15 minutes left. No I was there at the end, celebrated Johnstones try and clapped the team off at the end. There werent that many that did that night.

I stayed until the end and waited until the players were walking back to the changing rooms. Difficult to swallow last night but hopefully onwards and upwards