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| Don't recall any especially dangerous tackes, 2 games is very harsh especially when Deano is not a dirty player at all. See worse getting let off on a weekly basis for 'top teams'
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| The ban was never in doubt, it was a fait accompli. I'd have liked him to contest it but that would have in all likelihood to him missing the crucial London game as well so it is probably the right call to take the hit.
3 weeks ago it was generally accepted that the threequarters was the area in which we had least cover but we had Smith, Keinhorst & Collis as the main pretenders for the centre position. Now ones left, ones injured and conveniently one is suspended for bugger all. He just happens to be one of our better players as well and now misses the trip to a travel weary Wigan and the game against the struggling Catalan Dragons. Handy for them that. Strange how Matty Bowen got found of having no case to answer for nearly taking a guys head off isn't it.....
I guess then we will go for Sykes and one of Briscoe or Walshaw as the other. Doubt we'll go with Matt Ryan again, that was only ever a 20 minute stop gap before Sammut came on.
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| He started centre against the Bulls.
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| I'd rather see Walshaw at centre than Sykes, shame about collis. He will be a loss
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| Quote ="Mable_Syrup"He started centre against the Bulls.'"
Yep but he switched to the second row after about 20 minutes when Sammut came on, Sykes then moved to centre. Not something I agreed with before kickoff and I still don't now. In no way shape or form is Ryan a centre in my opinion, he isn't either mobile or fast enough. leave him at second row or, at a push, prop.
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| Quote ="Wakey Til I Die"Yep but he switched to the second row after about 20 minutes when Sammut came on, Sykes then moved to centre. Not something I agreed with before kickoff and I still don't now. In no way shape or form is Ryan a centre in my opinion, he isn't either mobile or fast enough. leave him at second row or, at a push, prop.'"
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| Quote ="Wakey Til I Die"Yep but he switched to the second row after about 20 minutes when Sammut came on, Sykes then moved to centre. Not something I agreed with before kickoff and I still don't now. In no way shape or form is Ryan a centre in my opinion, he isn't either mobile or fast enough. leave him at second row or, at a push, prop.'"
I agree with you on Ryan, he looks like he could be a decent player for us but there is no way he is a centre, he is not quick enough to play there and IMO would get found out by the quick Wigan backs. Unfortunately I think the same could be said about Walshaw, I think he isn't quick enough to player centre but has the potential to make a good 2nd rower.
If I was coach my centres for the WIgan game would be Sykes and Keinhorst if fit and if he isn't then Briscoe.
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| There out to get us make no mistake, if we stay up this year we will win the league next time because we will have survived everything they have thrown at us. the Bowen one well
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"
All we need now is for Roby or hicks to be named as ref on Sunday and the conspiracy theories are effectively confirmed'"
Not quite but close, it's championship ref Matt Thomason.
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| It's a shame as I always enjoy watching Collis play class act and would grace any team in SL.
I think Wigan will now target that side of the field. Whoever comes in will be facing Sarginson who has probably been our best player throughout the friendlies and early season very pacey and illusive.
I still though expect a tough game. Wakefield never lie down especially not against Wigan.
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| Quote ="jonh"It's a shame as I always enjoy watching Collis play class act and would grace any team in SL.
I think Wigan will now target that side of the field. Whoever comes in will be facing Sarginson who has probably been our best player throughout the friendlies and early season very pacey and illusive.
I still though expect a tough game. Wakefield never lie down especially not against Wigan.'"
Why would we need to lay down, we are not that good standing up
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| If everything is as innocent as everyone has claimed why did he use his EGP? Just wondering if anyone else thinks the EGP sounds like it was jumping the gun a bit?
Scott Moore apparently used a cannonball tackle on Darell Griffin, who is now out for up to 2 months, and managed to come out of the hearing with a not guilty verdict.
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| Quote ="andyh0064"If everything is as innocent as everyone has claimed why did he use his EGP? Just wondering if anyone else thinks the EGP sounds like it was jumping the gun a bit?
Scott Moore apparently used a cannonball tackle on Darell Griffin, who is now out for up to 2 months, and managed to come out of the hearing with a not guilty verdict.'"
Must admit, everyone seems convinced there was nothing in the tackle when looked at on telly.
Sort of making the decision for the panel and giving yourself up.
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| I honestly haven't seen it, is it in the highlights on your site?
That was my thinking though, I don't think I heard a single person say there was anything in it, next thing I saw he'd submitted an EGP. Seems crazy!
Unless you're specifically targeting a particular game for points and didn't want him to miss that?
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| Quote ="andyh0064"I honestly haven't seen it, is it in the highlights on your site?
That was my thinking though, I don't think I heard a single person say there was anything in it, next thing I saw he'd submitted an EGP. Seems crazy!
Unless you're specifically targeting a particular game for points and didn't want him to miss that?'"
And his first game after suspension?
London away.
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| Fair one, probably decided it was better to take two for the team then.
It seems the RFL are being pretty damn lenient so far though, in retrospect it was probably the wrong call.
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| Quote ="PHe"www.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/news/collis-facing-ban/2014/02/
Interesting to read the RFL comments regarding the 2 Bulls infringements that were also in front of the panel. Both were deemed to be illegal and neither player got a ban.
'" what else would you expect, I think we should of challenged them, what was the worse 3 games
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| Surprise surprise, Scott Moore of London got found not guilty despite having a garde D charge (3-5 games) levelled at him yesterday.
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| Quote ="Wakey Til I Die"Surprise surprise, Scott Moore of London got found not guilty despite having a garde D charge (3-5 games) levelled at him yesterday.'"
A charge which was due to a 'cannonball' type tackle that lead to the injury of a Salford player for at least two months.
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| just watched tonight and rewound a few times, the reason why for the early plea IMHO is because it did come at a 90 to the joint whether it was accidental or not has put the player on the side lines for a few weeks, had it not been as serious injury then he might of got away with a warning.
for me he wasn't looking at the point of contact but now you could end up with no tackling around the leg area do to risk of a ban, it will soon be time to put tags on players and no contact allowed
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| Salford v Saints last night had at least 20 examples of 3rd man in going low but none penalised, caused injury or even drew comment.
It does seem that this rule is only going to be enforced in the unfortunate incidence of an injury to a player whilst playing in a televised match and that is not a sensible basis for legislating in the game.
The advent of Sky has created many anomalies within the game and the answer always seems to be "get on with it" whereas it should be a case of engaging skilled professionals who understand both the game and the English language to frame sensible rules that are manageable across all levels of the game and not utterly distorted by TV replays.
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| Is there any evidence that the tackle from Collis caused the injury? To me, he could quite easily have caused damage when catching the ball and setting off from a standing start....very unfortunate for Gaskell, but i've yet to see one person say that tackle deserved a ban...
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| Consistency, that's all we ask.
Moore on Griffin - 2 month injury, Grade D charge - not guilty
Buesquet on Tansey - 1 week injury, Grade D charge - 3 match ban
Not suggesting that the punishment shoud be based on injury severity, but both were dangerous contact else there'd be no injury at all.
Moore's looks far worse than Mrs Bucket's, but the potential for severe damage is there in both.
Difference please????????
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| Quote ="rlfan"Salford v Saints last night had at least 20 examples of 3rd man in going low but none penalised, caused injury or even drew comment.
It does seem that this rule is only going to be enforced in the unfortunate incidence of an injury to a player whilst playing in a televised match and that is not a sensible basis for legislating in the game.
The advent of Sky has created many anomalies within the game and the answer always seems to be "get on with it" whereas it should be a case of engaging skilled professionals who understand both the game and the English language to frame sensible rules that are manageable across all levels of the game and not utterly distorted by TV replays.'"
Watching last night I noticed a lot of third man tackles and watched closely because of what happened with Collis.
For me, none of the ones I saw were worthy of a question from the referee because they were all above the knee.
Collis hit in the wrong place so although not intended, was dangerous because of poor technique.
If he'd clamped the legs together above the knee the tackle would have been just as effective but would not have caused injury
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