So it seems we did not get the info before the game and thats unfortunate but the club have offered an apology for this oversight.

Davide as agreed to sort out the ladies toilet access, so that sorted.

Just the issuse of the West terrace and its regulars, i'm betting that now they understand the clubs reasoning and if they accept last weeks shambles was just unfortunate they will see it will benefit the club in the long term.

My main concern now is "flash points" outside the North turnstyles when other teams fans are heading back to the Donny road area form the west side turnstyles.
We had to walk through the FC fans on sunday and while it was not a problem maybe it will be when others come to town.

Have to admit my viewing experience has diminished from watching the game from the NT rather than the WT, however, it’s not anywhere near significant enough to making me chose not to go to games. To be frank it seems a tad precious, notwithstanding any accessibility/visibility issues, and cutting your nose off to spite your face. I go to BV to watch Trinity play, not to stand in a spot I’ve occupied 13 times a year for the last decade or so.

Hopefully, in two years’ time this will all be immaterial anyway, as I imagine there will definitely be segregation at NM and it will be a new experience for all of us to get used to standing/sitting in the same spot for the next 30-50 years.

You missed off the bit about the club not tacking root cause.

You seem very confident that there has been no root cause analysis; how do you know that?

For me, the implementation of segregation, even in the relatively gentle way that it's been done at BV, suggests that there has; one of the primary root causes of flashpoint in a crowd is the likelihood of home and away fans to be intermingled - that's why football and other RL grounds have been segregated for so long.

Sums it it for me, moved from west the north this season and although i enjoy the northstand would rather get my hold spot back, its not to be so i'll live with it.

what happens when home fans come to a game with away fans. ie my niece and partner along with my 3 year old godson are Bulls fans, where do we all stand together ? Also Mrs poching will be coming with her sons in Warrington shirts but want to stand with all their Wakey friends , what do they do ?
I can see why the club have felt the need to do what they are doing but as many have said its our trouble causers that need dealing with

I've not seen any CCTV cameras installed have you?

I've not seen stewards actually challenging any idiots have you?

I've not seen a list of banned people and their mugshots in the Wakefield Express or outside the ground have you?

I've seen a lot of new outlets flogging booze open over the last few years, haven't you?

I know a young lad got thrown out a few seasons back for throwing fudge which inadvertently hit one of the stewards.

I will say though violetrwb, I have no problem with you making your case with this. It's good that you are not resorting to personal comments with the people who are discussing or disagreeing with you as some do.
Possibly with the exception of comments about Davide. Personally, I'd have kept that between you two, but that's done now so we'll leave it there.

Poptart - I've not seen a list of banned people and their mugshots in the Wakefield Express or outside the ground have you? - but that would only be the case if they weer looking for people they didn't know. I know for certain there have been people banned from Belle Vue

Well this is good to know, but the same issue applies here as does to identifying whether people are home or away supporters if they are not wearing colours; how do you keep banned people out without vetting them before they reach the turnstiles?

Fair point. I can't really see how they can keep them out unless people inside the ground shop them

I suppose the obvious answer is all ticket matches.

Charming !!!................i would like to think i'm quite the opposite to obnoxious, but as you seem to know me so well everyone will have to accept your judgement !.

i presume by that little outburts your one of them i mentioned !!

Come on Gold members, you can do better than that.
Decaf!

This ^^^

My father-in-law is a Rhinos fan (Poor fellow I know!) and I used the "Bring-a-friend" voucher to get him a ticket for the Leeds game, which I now have sitting at home waiting for the re-arrangement, however it appears that actually my "bring-a-friend" will now not be able to stand with me at the game. I don't know yet but that may mean that he doesn't bother coming.


I agree something needed to be done and I will accept the decision the club has made (not that we have much choice) but I do think it is a shame that it has come to this. The number of times I have told friends that Rugby League is a great sport to come and watch, partly because of the ability to mingle with opposition fans and have a laugh/discussion without any trouble, and now it seems that is going out of the window. That is much more upsetting to me than having to change where I stand, but I gues that is modern society for you.

I entered this forum late last night after reading the above post. I explained the reasons and categorically mentioned the severity of our problems on the Western Terrace. Wakefield Trinity Wildcats are striving towards an improved match day experience and aim to eliminate these fans that are spoiling it for the rest. We will isolate the fans who are responsible and subsequently ban the culprits.

Can I remind one person on here, I am happy to take the flack and will hold my hand up if the club isn't as efficient as we strive to be, but I do not appreciate personal remarks made against my position at the club or character. We will do what's best for all our fans, home and away that attend fixtures in our stadium, as safety is the paramount concern. Essentially the club employ a Ground Safety Officer who is directly responsible for all these issues, and he his the person who makes all the safety decisions, alongside Key Security, West Yorkshire Police and Wakefield Council. I am only the spokes person for the club and responding to the post above as a matter of courtesy.

Could I now ask the moderators to close this thread as I have enough information to arrange a meeting with the said organisations.

The trouble with the Cas fans was in the North stand was it not?



You may take them as personal, but they are not. The way you have waded in on here with a mixture of bravery and naivety does nothing to endorse your capability to perform a senior management role at the club in my opinion, and if that's personal then I'm sorry but it's my right to comment when you come on here riding roughshod over some peoples' views having performed awfully in implementing significant and unwarranted changes to the matchday experience without doing the leg work and the basics on root cause first. If you don't like my criticism, then I suggest that you stop reading threads on messageboards full stop, because as an officer of the club you're going to get some flak when poor decisions are made.



This is supposed to be independent of the club, so I'd be disappointed if they closed it because you asked them to. If you want a forum where you have editorial control then set one up on the club's own website.

You clearly have an axe to grind with Davide; why not take him up on his offer of a 1:1 discussion?

Either way, I'm reasonably sure you don't have the authority to conduct his performance review, unless you're Andrew Glover?

You are clearly mistaken.

I have never seen another club where there are so many "supporters" who want to complain about something or another. Perhaps its our lack of success over the years on the field but it really is demoralising and depressing. Its as though all they all get out of the wrong side of bed EVERY morning.

The only problem with the west terrace is we are now no longer allowed to stand there. Which is where I have stood all my life as it is the best view of the pitch in my eyes. I am now expected to go stand with sed troublemakers in the north stand as this is my next best view. No thanks!

Well said, it's becoming rather tedious and tiredsome. It might also help if you didn't have the odd pop which lessens your arguement. It's been explained and done to death the reasons why it's been introduced by those who have the knowledge and insight rather than 'but i've stood there for decades', which we all have. Will you still stand there when we play at NM?

It is very depressing. Davide came on with good intentions of addressing supporter concerns, however has been subjected to personal abuse by so called fans.

I'm all for constructive criticism, but to say he's a "relic of the old regime" or whatever it was is out of order. It's a shame really, we could have had a good 2 way communication link to the club, but due to the personal attacks we'll now most likely deprived us of that.

Ironically the attacks performed by a minority who have spoiled things for the majority, wishing to complain about another minority doing the same!

Suppose the vitriol on this messageboard is another example of modern society.
Also, a bit like road rage, where people act completely different when surrounded by a protective bubble.