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| Quote ="gijimmyyo"Stop repeating yourself Adam...
DS on a 50% days is still better than butter fingers Wilkes, dropping the ball everytime he runs hard!...
Would normally comment on Bibey aswell... But he's been top notch recently!'"
Have no idea what games you watch pal. Yes Ollie may drop the odd ball
(usually 1 per game) but still shows more commitment and passion for the red white and blue than Scully ever has.
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| I think they are both pants tbh, i honestly thought we were attempting to move forward not bring back someone who just isnt good enough...he's been playin reserve grade at huddersfield so if he gets straight in our forwards whats that saying!!!!! i would have had a bash at getting mick nayn in on couple months loan strengthen the fringes.....
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| Quote ="Westgate6"I think they are both pants tbh, i honestly thought we were attempting to move forward not bring back someone who just isnt good enough...he's been playin reserve grade at huddersfield so if he gets straight in our forwards whats that saying!!!!! i would have had a bash at getting mick nayn in on couple months loan strengthen the fringes.....'"
So you slate Korki but suggest we bring in Mick Nanyn who has never and will never be SL quality. Priceless!!
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| Here's something I thought of.
Just an idea.
We can all follow this if we want.
Have HEART and FAITH in the team. Instead of getting on players backs, why not shout 'encouragement' and 'support' rather than 'negativity' and 'abuse.'
We all make mistakes. People drop the ball more than others.
Korki is back. Love him/hate him. I don't know of any other former player that used to watch his old club as much as Korki did (maybe Willy Poching.)
Remember - he's wearing red, white and blue - back him.
I promise you.
There are POSITIVES to come for the WHOLE club just around the corner.
Really exciting news.
I'm sorry I can't say on here - I'd probably lose my job too if I say anything.
Please just ride on the Wildcats rollercoaster. It's what we're all used to.
Enjoy it.
It's OUR club.
Wakefield till I die.
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| Quote ="Westgate6"I think they are both pants tbh, i honestly thought we were attempting to move forward not bring back someone who just isnt good enough...he's been playin reserve grade at huddersfield so if he gets straight in our forwards whats that saying!!!!! i would have had a bash at getting mick nayn in on couple months loan strengthen the fringes.....'" korkidas has played 3 out of 4 first grade for hudds, and has played well, as far as wilkes is concerned great front rower. no frills. good work ethic , team player, so why would you bag any of your own players. by the way , if you could have a word with mick nanning whilst he is still in contract and get him to come and give us a hand . i am sure john kear would be very grateful to you.
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| Quote ="Mary Millington"Here's something I thought of.
Just an idea.
We can all follow this if we want.
Have HEART and FAITH in the team. Instead of getting on players backs, why not shout 'encouragement' and 'support' rather than 'negativity' and 'abuse.'
We all make mistakes. People drop the ball more than others.
Korki is back. Love him/hate him. I don't know of any other former player that used to watch his old club as much as Korki did (maybe Willy Poching.)
Remember - he's wearing red, white and blue - back him.
I promise you.
There are POSITIVES to come for the WHOLE club just around the corner.
Really exciting news.
I'm sorry I can't say on here - I'd probably lose my job too if I say anything.
Please just ride on the Wildcats rollercoaster. It's what we're all used to.
Enjoy it.
It's OUR club.
Wakefield till I die.'" well said mate.
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| Quote ="Mary Millington"There are POSITIVES to come for the WHOLE club just around the corner.
Really exciting news.
I'm sorry I can't say on here - I'd probably lose my job too if I say anything.'"
Make sure you post the information on the Huddersfield board as well, please - when you can, of course. There are a few posters there who are most concerned about the state of our club at the moment, and who will no doubt be very relieved to read some good news. Thanks.
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| Quote ="Westgate6"I think they are both pants tbh, i honestly thought we were attempting to move forward not bring back someone who just isnt good enough...he's been playin reserve grade at huddersfield so if he gets straight in our forwards whats that saying!!!!! i would have had a bash at getting mick nayn in on couple months loan strengthen the fringes.....'" we are scraping the barrel if you think that, one of the laziest players for his size ever, could place kick tho give him that.
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| Quote ="bloomers"I can see that point of view. It is more the case that if you read this thread you'd get the impression that he was useless. Whenever he played he ran it in as hard as any other and offered options. When we used him at loose he did what was asked. As for the view he lacked commitment, he won MoM in his last game. Yes he has been a silly lad with the incident, but some people are rewriting history on the basis of that.'"
Don't come on here with your facts! It's Scully's fault that we've not won for 4 games and it's his fault that Grix has been crap since he came back from injury oh and Gleeson as well. Now he has gone and Korki is back I fully expect a charge up the table and we may just still win the league but the grand final is forgone conclusion.
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| Quote ="Mary Millington"Here's something I thought of.
Just an idea.
We can all follow this if we want.
Have HEART and FAITH in the team. Instead of getting on players backs, why not shout 'encouragement' and 'support' rather than 'negativity' and 'abuse.'
We all make mistakes. People drop the ball more than others.
Korki is back. Love him/hate him. I don't know of any other former player that used to watch his old club as much as Korki did (maybe Willy Poching.)
Remember - he's wearing red, white and blue - back him.
I promise you.
There are POSITIVES to come for the WHOLE club just around the corner.
Really exciting news.
I'm sorry I can't say on here - I'd probably lose my job too if I say anything.
Please just ride on the Wildcats rollercoaster. It's what we're all used to.
Enjoy it.
It's OUR club.
Wakefield till I die.'"
You're only in a good/positive mood cos Barca won last night.
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| Quote ="cool4kats"the guy was useless. for the time he was with us, how many times did he play? he had more injuries than evil kenevil. the first season he was totally overweight and unfit. i have never seen him show any real speed or aggression , apart from in a punch up. a lot of the young players will be glad to see the back of him. we are in a no lose situation for once. korki is on loan. he has been playing ok at hudds. best of luck to the lad.'"
He played 25 games last season. How much play did we really get out of Korki in his last year?
As for the comment about speed, is that the sole attribute for a prop?
My point isn't that Sculthorpe shouldn't go. Once has player has ed on his chips he has to go. What I am questioning is this need some have to rewrite the past on the basis of the fall out. Sculpthorpe was an effective prop who offered something different from the others we possess. I hope the prodigal son finds his best form on his return to us, but it is stretching credulity to consider his recent form as good enough. I appreciate he is on loan and so in some respects if he plays well it is a bonus, but let us not forget the reason he didn't return to his beloved Wakefield was (reputedly and fairly obviously) cash, with figures bandied about being more than have been talked about for Sculthorpe.
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| I would have been very disappointed if we'd signed Korki at the start of the season, but under the circumstances, we're making the best out of a bad situation. Lets be honest, it's team spirit that got us where we were at the start of the season, and if having Korki back on loan brings that spirit back too, then it's mission accomplished (in the short term, at least).
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"I would have been very disappointed if we'd signed Korki at the start of the season, but under the circumstances, we're making the best out of a bad situation. Lets be honest, it's team spirit that got us where we were at the start of the season, and if having Korki back on loan brings that spirit back too, then it's mission accomplished (in the short term, at least).'"
I have no qualms with that argument. I just don't see the need to do down Sculthorpe's contribution, nor hype up the homecoming of King Korki.
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| The whole point of Scully getting a hard time now is because people see him differently in relation to how he fitted into the team spirit, based on how people close to the club have reported his behaviour on here and how he responded to his misdemeanour. People are entitled to reassess their opinion of him. And as for Mary Millington's hint of good news, I would be happy to take unsubstantiated rumour at this stage, given that most daft rumours are negative, not positive. Add a knowing wink or something.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"The whole point of Scully getting a hard time now is because people see him differently in relation to how he fitted into the team spirit, based on what people close to the club have reported his behaviour on here and how he responded to his misdemeanour. People are entitled to reassess their opinion of him. And as for Mary Millington's hint of good news, I would be happy to take unsubstantiated rumour at this stage, given that most daft rumours are negative, not positive. Add a knowing wink or something.'"
He does know what he's talking about and it is good news.
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"Make sure you post the information on the Huddersfield board as well, please - when you can, of course. There are a few posters there who are most concerned about the state of our club at the moment, and who will no doubt be very relieved to read some good news. Thanks.
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I'm sure that would really make their day.
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| Quote ="cool4kats" as far as wilkes is concerned great front rower. no frills. good work ethic , team player, so why would you bag any of your own players. by the way , [uif you could have a word with mick nanning whilst he is still in contract and get him to come and give us a hand . i am sure john kear would be very grateful to you[/u.
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When did i once bag oli wilkes i think he has been a battering ram for our forwards!!!!! As for nayn i just thought he would be a welcome addition to our back line for the next couple of months....but apparantly he's gone to leigh
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"The whole point of Scully getting a hard time now is because people see him differently in relation to how he fitted into the team spirit, based on how people close to the club have reported his behaviour on here and how he responded to his misdemeanour. People are entitled to reassess their opinion of him. And as for Mary Millington's hint of good news, I would be happy to take unsubstantiated rumour at this stage, given that most daft rumours are negative, not positive. Add a knowing wink or something.'"
That is partly my point though. People ought to be more discerning in their reasoning for giving him a hard time. Of course opinions are entitled and can be revised. If it is 'bad influence, ill dsiciplined, poor reaction to club sanctions' then fair enough. However, 'poor player, poor contribution when he has played', then it just comes over as sour grapes with a whiff of being unable to read the contribution players make to games, particularly when they make comparisons to the return of the messiah.
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| Quote ="bloomers"That is partly my point though. People ought to be more discerning in their reasoning for giving him a hard time. Of course opinions are entitled and can be revised. If it is 'bad influence, ill dsiciplined, poor reaction to club sanctions' then fair enough. However, 'poor player, poor contribution when he has played', then it just comes over as sour grapes with a whiff of being unable to read the contribution players make to games, particularly when they make comparisons to the return of the messiah.'"
Comparisons or asessments are often unfair, as they frequently fail to take into account the task that the player has been asked to perform. There's obviously more to Scully's game than, say, Korki's, but there could very well be good reasons why he hasn't shown everything he's capable of at certain times. Injury or the effects of his medical condition may also have played a part.
One comment I read on another board summed it up quite well for me - a gifted player who just seems to make a lot of daft decisions. In the games that I've seen him play, this would sum up his contribution quite well, but there may be many other instances where this has not been the case. I don't think he's a lazy player - certainly not when you compare his contribution with many of the contributions that his on-loan successor has made to our cause. Have we had value for money from him? Difficult to say. We could [iprobably [/ihave got more out of him, but the same could be said for many of the more talented players that have come before him, and doubtless many who will play for us after him. It's highly unlikely we'll ever see him in a Wakey shirt again, and I'm just glad that we have - or at least, I [ihope [/iwe have - drawn a line under this unfortunate saga now.
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| Quote ="Westgate6"As for nayn i just thought he would be a welcome addition to our back line for the next couple of months'"
I take it you don't get to watch much RL then?
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| Quote ="Haywire"I take it you don't get to watch much RL then?'"
This reminds me of when Tony Smith said he would bring players in who you never thought would play for Wakey, and boy did he deliver on that.
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"Comparisons or asessments are often unfair, as they frequently fail to take into account the task that the player has been asked to perform. There's obviously more to Scully's game than, say, Korki's, but there could very well be good reasons why he hasn't shown everything he's capable of at certain times. Injury or the effects of his medical condition may also have played a part.
One comment I read on another board summed it up quite well for me - a gifted player who just seems to make a lot of daft decisions. In the games that I've seen him play, this would sum up his contribution quite well, but there may be many other instances where this has not been the case. I don't think he's a lazy player - certainly not when you compare his contribution with many of the contributions that his on-loan successor has made to our cause. Have we had value for money from him? Difficult to say. We could [iprobably [/ihave got more out of him, but the same could be said for many of the more talented players that have come before him, and doubtless many who will play for us after him. It's highly unlikely we'll ever see him in a Wakey shirt again, and I'm just glad that we have - or at least, I [ihope [/iwe have - drawn a line under this unfortunate saga now.'"
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