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| Quote ="Mark Voakes"Apology accepted, On this occasion I wont pursue defamation of character on this matter.'"
I have nothing to sue for unfortunately.
I'll sell you my non voting shares in Trinity for a pound though.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I said why can't he change his mind. I don't know the guy.
And you've changed from 'heard from a reliable source' to
"May be true" "its possible"
I'm calling you out as making things up just because you don't like Carter. You say yourself Minards hasn't said anything but seem to now lump them together.
Enough people are challenging you on Facebook now thank goodness.
You have shown absolutely no basis for any of your claims, except 'it was what I got told'. Unless you can quote someone who actually knows, it could have been a discussion between you and Mopsey for all we know.
And 'I am hung up on it' because you are saying things that are damaging to my club and the directors of the club and make things look worse than they are.
We should be celebrating the possibility of a takeover but we are all having to wade through all the misinformation which causes doubt when there isn't anything to discuss yet.'"
I did hear from a reliable source, as I have heard plenty of things that happen to come true, the pitch inspections which I got slagged off over 'making up', bang turned out true, same with Max and Linos new deals.
As I have said, a Stadium Management company is very common, and it could have been suggested that one is formed and the asset remains with that company and lease this back to the club and football club. After all, MC said that thing will generate £500K, so he may want to retain such a valuable business asset. Nothing has come out in the press to say that this idea / suggestion of the stadium been rented to the club is either true or untrue YET. I
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| Quote ="PopTart"I have nothing to sue for unfortunately.
I'll sell you my non voting shares in Trinity for a pound though.'"
Whether you do or you dont, I really couldnt care less, I am a big boy and can deal with your lies. I wont be losing any sleep over what you, any other posters or anyone on FB says or thinks about me. I just had to prove a point, that you have been harping on about defamation, and you blatantly made something up about me, Pot calling kettle.
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| The thing I can not get my head around is, who is the source of this information, there can't be many people involved in these discussions MC, JM, ME and maybe legal people, and I don't see any of them revealing anything financial at this stage.
One other thing does Ted Richardson attend games regularly or is it just coincidence I have seen both him and EricTimmins recently at Belle Vie
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| Quote ="lifelongfan"The thing I can not get my head around is, who is the source of this information, there can't be many people involved in these discussions MC, JM, ME and maybe legal people, and I don't see any of them revealing anything financial at this stage.
One other thing does Ted Richardson attend games regularly or is it just coincidence I have seen both him and EricTimmins recently at Belle Vie'"
Ted is a regular at games these days, was also at one of the recent forums.
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| Quote ="altofts wildcat"Ted is a regular at games these days, was also at one of the recent forums.'"
Thanks for that, my suspicions mind working overtime.
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| Quote ="lifelongfan"The thing I can not get my head around is, who is the source of this information, there can't be many people involved in these discussions MC, JM, ME and maybe legal people, and I don't see any of them revealing anything financial at this stage.
One other thing does Ted Richardson attend games regularly or is it just coincidence I have seen both him and EricTimmins recently at Belle Vie'"
We have 4 shareholders, who will all have friends and family who they trust, they may also have employees who they trust. Ellis may also take the same number of advisor / fellow board members / even members of a potential consortium with him to any talks - they too all have friends family etc who they believe they can trust. All of a sudden 30 or so people know, or have been told elements of the talks. Its just a big game of chinese whispers then.
Non disclosure agreements could be in place, but then again MC has just done a interview about the potential takeover, so maybe they arent.
Ted attend games regularly, he may have done some wrong things when running the club, but he is actually a proper lifelong Wakefield Fan, and not a Hull FC follower.
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| If you look in the online concise oxford dictionary for the definition of "Irony" I believe it now makes direct reference to a certain posters comments on this thread
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| Quote ="Mark Voakes"Whether you do or you dont, I really couldnt care less, I am a big boy and can deal with your lies. I wont be losing any sleep over what you, any other posters or anyone on FB says or thinks about me. I just had to prove a point, that you have been harping on about defamation, and you blatantly made something up about me, Pot calling kettle.'"
That was a mistaken identity but I haven't lied about anything. All I've asked is to only state facts as facts, not made up things like the rent or otherwise.
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| Quote ="PopTart"That was a mistaken identity but I haven't lied about anything. All I've asked is to only state facts as facts, not made up things like the rent or otherwise.'"
Ah the old mistaken identity card - not sure it stands up, to avoid anything like that, I made my username, my actual name on Facebook.
I havent made anything up, I have put my opinion, with direct quotes from MC - you have made things up, and put a quote from a journalist to try to back up that MC said something.........its really not that hard. Just practice what you preach thats all I ask.
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| Quote ="Mark Voakes"He doesnt mention the "£200K' rent , however is it beyond the wildest possibilities that this idea was floated in any talks ? That the the stadium to be transferred and run by a stadium management company, and rent this to the club / Wakey FC etc ? If so, you would assume that the council loan would also be transferred to the same management company. Stadium Management companies are pretty common thing.'"
I'm led to believe from a reliable source that the quality of the pitch has improved due to dinosaurs, unicorns and dodos grazing on it and 3 wishes being granted by a fairy godmother and a genie! I'm not sure if that's true or not but is it beyond the wildest possibilities that it is?
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| Quote ="Mark Voakes"Ah the old mistaken identity card - not sure it stands up, to avoid anything like that, I made my username, my actual name on Facebook.
I havent made anything up, I have put my opinion, with direct quotes from MC - you have made things up, and put a quote from a journalist to try to back up that MC said something.........its really not that hard. Just practice what you preach thats all I ask.'"
Except for the £200k rent. That wasn't an opinion.
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| Quote ="STB"I'm led to believe from a reliable source that the quality of the pitch has improved due to dinosaurs, unicorns and dodos grazing on it and 3 wishes being granted by a fairy godmother and a genie! I'm not sure if that's true or not but is it beyond the wildest possibilities that it is?'"
What you have been told and believe is on you, it really has no affect on me darling
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| Quote ="PopTart"Except for the £200k rent. That wasn't an opinion.'"
I never posted about that on here, that was on FB, reveal yourself and discuss it on there, rather than hiding on here, and then keep bringing it up on here.
You are indeed correct, it wasn't a opinion, it was a "fact" - I had heard it and I had heard it from a reliable source - its not really a complicated issue. Whether theres truth in it, only time will tell, but I stand by that it was factual, as I did get told that, and it was told to me by someone who is reliable.
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| Quote ="Mark Voakes"
You are indeed correct, it wasn't a opinion, it was a "fact" - I had heard it and I had heard it from a reliable source - its not really a complicated issue. Whether theres truth in it, only time will tell, but I stand by that it was factual, as I did get told that, and it was told to me by someone who is reliable.'"
That actually makes it conjecture and rumour, not fact HTH
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| INOUT Quote ="financialtimes"That actually makes it conjecture and rumour, not fact
HTH'"
I am really not bothered - call it what you like - Poptart seems to have got his knickers in a twist over it so ask him what he would like to call it.
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| Quote ="Mark Voakes"What you have been told and believe is on you, it really has no affect on me darling'"
My source is usually very reliable so I have no reason to disbelieve them so thank you for backing that theory up.
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| Quote ="Mark Voakes"We have 4 shareholders, who will all have friends and family who they trust, they may also have employees who they trust. Ellis may also take the same number of advisor / fellow board members / even members of a potential consortium with him to any talks - they too all have friends family etc who they believe they can trust. All of a sudden 30 or so people know, or have been told elements of the talks. Its just a big game of chinese whispers then.
Non disclosure agreements could be in place, but then again MC has just done a interview about the potential takeover, so maybe they arent.
Ted attend games regularly, he may have done some wrong things when running the club, but he is actually a proper lifelong Wakefield Fan, and not a Hull FC follower.'"
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| If this was anyone else they’d be getting the old Pop Tart slap across the knuckles and ‘use DM’s if you want to continue your spat’. Are the rules different for moderators?
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"If this was anyone else they’d be getting the old Pop Tart slap across the knuckles and ‘use DM’s if you want to continue your spat’. Are the rules different for moderators?'"
I was thinking it was a discussion worth seeing rather than private mail.
But its a fair point and I've run out of steam anyway.
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| Quote ="STB"I'm led to believe from a reliable source that the quality of the pitch has improved due to dinosaurs, unicorns and dodos grazing on it and 3 wishes being granted by a fairy godmother and a genie! I'm not sure if that's true or not but is it beyond the wildest possibilities that it is?'"
The pitch should have improved it's had a lot of on it.
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| Quote ="Mark Voakes"INOUTI am really not bothered - call it what you like - Poptart seems to have got his knickers in a twist over it so ask him what he would like to call it.'"
A made up lie by someone reliable we dont know. Posted to stir up trouble. But that's just my opinion.
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| Quote ="LyndsayGill"The pitch should have improved it's had a lot of poop on it.'"
That's actually really funny
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| Quote ="LyndsayGill"The pitch should have improved it's had a lot of poop on it.'"
Isn't dodos spelt with an i & an L but without the first o
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| Quote ="PopTart"A made up lie by someone reliable we dont know. Posted to stir up trouble. But that's just my opinion.'"
Your hardly going to know the pople I know are you ?
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