Quote ="Sacred Cow"The point being the style of players they are as opposed to the others mentioned. Miller and Tansey have the same style in the halves, where their game is based around footwork, speed and support play. Whether Tansey would do a better job than Miller is the debate and yes i have my doubts but if Miller continues to under-perform with the ball then it may well be worth trying out to see without having to change the whole system in place. Defensively they are similar, Miller has improved a lot recently recently but remember at times last season he looked like he couldn't tackle a hot dinner let alone anyone else so isn't infallible. Whilst you don't tend to pick a halfback for his defensive quality the have to be able to hold their own and both can to a similar level imho its just the attack that is failing. We have scored just 6 tries in 3 games, 3 of which have been from Howarth running from dummy half from inside the 10 meters. We may need to try something different soon and for me Finn has to stay so Miller is the one under threat. It can be all rendered immaterial though if Miller picks his game up and starts performing over the next couple of weeks.'" So let me get this straight, Howarth is not a S/O and has never played there at SL level but Tansey is and has. Odd because Jordan Lewis Tansey doesn't even bother to mention that on his Wiki site his dominance of the position is such common knowledge. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Tansey Absolute comedy gold.

Quote ="Sacred Cow"The point being the style of players they are as opposed to the others mentioned. Miller and Tansey have the same style in the halves, where their game is based around footwork, speed and support play. Whether Tansey would do a better job than Miller is the debate and yes i have my doubts but if Miller continues to under-perform with the ball then it may well be worth trying out to see without having to change the whole system in place. Defensively they are similar, Miller has improved a lot recently recently but remember at times last season he looked like he couldn't tackle a hot dinner let alone anyone else so isn't infallible. Whilst you don't tend to pick a halfback for his defensive quality the have to be able to hold their own and both can to a similar level imho its just the attack that is failing. We have scored just 6 tries in 3 games, 3 of which have been from Howarth running from dummy half from inside the 10 meters. We may need to try something different soon and for me Finn has to stay so Miller is the one under threat. It can be all rendered immaterial though if Miller picks his game up and starts performing over the next couple of weeks.'" So let me get this straight, Howarth is not a S/O and has never played there at SL level but Tansey is and has. Odd because Jordan Lewis Tansey doesn't even bother to mention that on his Wiki site his dominance of the position is such common knowledge. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Tansey Absolute comedy gold.

No you do it, it's your claim - seeing as it's squad numbers these days I'll be facinated to see how you do. You could give him a ring I suppose.

What you are doing is stating your own pre-concieved opinions as fact - but they are not facts are they

Quote ="vastman"So let me get this straight, Howarth is not a S/O and has never played there at SL level but Tansey is and has. Odd because Jordan Lewis Tansey doesn't even bother to mention that on his Wiki site his dominance of the position is such common knowledge. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Tansey Absolute comedy gold.'" Maybe if you cut down on the faux outrage and embarrassing bluster and also read things properly you'd have seen my take on it fully in previous posts. And you do know how wikipedia works don't you?

Quote ="vastman"So let me get this straight, Howarth is not a S/O and has never played there at SL level but Tansey is and has. Odd because Jordan Lewis Tansey doesn't even bother to mention that on his Wiki site his dominance of the position is such common knowledge. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Tansey Absolute comedy gold.'" Maybe if you cut down on the faux outrage and embarrassing bluster and also read things properly you'd have seen my take on it fully in previous posts. And you do know how wikipedia works don't you?

And you do know how team lists work as well don't you. Or is that beyond you as well?

Anyway happy hunting. The info on this site matches well with the yearbooks i own.

[urlhttp://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/players/stuart-howarth--wt-/summary.html[/url

Pretty similar to you and that's a fact.

Statistics and damned statistics aye. So your argument seems to be that he didn't start on the team sheet at 6. Yet you don't actually know where he played when he came on from the bench which he regularily seemed to be. So if he was to come on and replace the ever brilliant Jeremy Smith/ Keiren Hyde/Tommy Lee that wouldn't count then and defacto it becomes a "never".

Great things these stats, love it.

Leave it alone guys. By all means argue on PM but no one else wants to see this.

Apologies but as stated its a truly pointless exercise expressing any opinion that differs from yours. I do accept you hit back as you put it and I can certainly take your points on board, i certainly don't agree with the majority but again I take it board. I do Accept where you state"it's your opinion and that of a few others, doesn't make it so does it" maybe you should take note of your own words.

As for the accepting the consequences part, you do know this is a forum not a playground don't you?