Rodney Walker says the land is classified as green belt and the stadium will more than likely be pulled in by the goverment because of this which would delay the building. I dont understand what you are saying snowie??

it used to be a pit and the surrounding area had its effects of the industry, since it was shut, capped and leveled it has been left to develop into green land over the 20 odd years, its not like its been green land since the time began, put this way would bradford if the could be allowed to put a community stadium on Ilkley moor

so where does green start and stop

I know it used to be a pit and to me and you it doesnt look like a green haven but unfortunatly the government have classifiedit as green belt. Looking at the site and its former use I cant see them having a objection to what we are planning BUT they will delay the plans should it be called in by the government which nearly every green belt planned developments are..

benefits are employment would receive a much needed boost in the making of it

I didn't claim it couldn't support 2 stadia, I merely commented that from a development point of view, why spend twice the cash on 2 similar projects within 1 district when 1 "could" suffice.
I am beggining to think that this choice of site, has significance for getting the two clubs into 1 stadium, if it's the only way forward as far as SL franchises go, then I suppose it makes sence, but I fear another more worrying agenda would only be around the corner.

Green belt land can be previously developed land (I think 'virgin' land is known as green field). As I understand it councils can redesignate land according to their overall needs, but I'm guessing as the government set the criteria for this decisions are subject to their apporval.

I suppose the bigger concern isn't just the site itself, but the impact it has on the wider area, e.g. access, traffic, views, etc. However as pointed out, we aren't talking ancient woodland or an area of outstanding natural beauty here. I'd like to think that the experience of the developers, council etc combined is a sound guide that they think it is a fair proposal. There was also one quote from someone in the paper eco-type (friends of Stanley Marsh) that approved.

With some irony, I mention that one of the purposes of greenbelt is to prevent neighbouring towns merging into each other.

The site is Green Belt. Land that has not been previously developed is classified as Greenfield. The pit site has been previously developed and therefore is Brownfield, however the Local Authority will have classified the land following the closure of the pit as Green Belt, that is land on which they do not intend development to take place. I think Glasshoughton was also Green Belt but when proposals for a mixed use scheme was proposed the land was reclassified for the development we see now.

As Green Belt any proposals for any development will automatically will be "called in" by Government Office. Don't panic by that, GO will decide whether to allow Wakefield MDC to determine any planning application or whether they feel that the proposals warrant a Public Inquiry. If WMDC are 100% behind the scheme and there are no major objections then GO may pass the application over to WMDC. The worst case would be a PI which would at best would delay the scheme or at very worst scupper it.

Castleford's stadium at Glasshoughton was "called in" and GO passed it back to Wakefield MDC without a Public Inquiry.

I'm sure Sir Rodney and YorkCourt Properties will have done their homework to be confident to put the site forward.

which is happening between outwood and wrenthorpe, it will soon be taken up as developments have been passed on red hall lane for some time, not many know the fields to the left going outbound on the bypass is disappearing to offices

sorry that was an error oops

The "green belt" claim on that site is complete utter twaddle! How can it be green belt, if there were buildings/structures once present on the fields, not to mention the Newmarket Lane access road itself. At the very most, this is brown belt, which means for non-geologists, the land can be used for building work.

The land is Green Belt. I've explained it earlier, the site is Brownfield as it was previously developed with Greenfield (as opposed to Green Belt) being land that has not previously been developed.

Green Belt is a planning designation for land that is intended not be developed in accordance with the Local Development Plan or Unitary Development Plan as they were called. It can be Greenfield or Brownfield land. The Local Authority can redesignate Green Belt land for development as they did at Glasshoughton.

Quite right. But if the Community Trust run the stadium and we control the Community Trust????

A plan of Baldrician proportions. I'm sure this has been thought through by those with more knowldge of the particulars than I. Best of luck to them.

oh yes.

I understand Yorkscourt Properties own the area of land in question. Would a development company acquire a piece of land if they were unsure as to whether they would be able to build on it for any purpose?

I’m pretty sure this issue will have been factored in to the schedule and budget.

Speculators are gamblers though.

your post is utter twaddle. Read what has been written before you & take in the distinction between greenbelt and greenfield.

I could speculate about the chances of a development going ahead on any given site however I would have no background knowledge to substantiate that estimate. These guys will have and will know what may be granted and what perhaps may not.

The land Paragon Business Park was built upon used to be very green and from the aerial image its not too dissimilar to the proposed Newmarket site.

I think it says much of it has been brought up to green belt standard - I have no idea what the difference is

All depends on how much they paid for it.

Developers are speculators and gamblers, you win some you lose some. I guess YorkCourt will need the Trust as much as the Trust needs YorkCourt in order to secure a planning consent. Its therefore a perfect marriage - if any marriage is perfect.

So you have to ask yourself what Yorkcourt will get out of this? apart from building the new stadium on land that they seem to own. What else could be built on the site? is the stadium key to a even bigger development? its a massive area..

I believe the article in league express mentioned something about further development of the area, as you say it is a very large site.

They have a piece of land now that is Green Belt with little value. They apply for planning consent for a stadium and a wider development that could involve business units, housing etc. Permission granted and the value of the site increases.