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| I think he was sin binned for dissent, i.e. "the offence of disagreeing with a decision made by the referee" after the ref. made the decision not to award the try by Bain
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| Quote ="KevW60349"I think he was sin binned for dissent, i.e. "the offence of disagreeing with a decision made by the referee" after the ref. made the decision not to award the try by Bain'"
I’m just going off what The Powell said unless he’s got it wrong but I assume he would know.
The dissent could be because Bain was accused of throwing the ball away after what he feels was a try (and sounded it hearing live commentary). In effect that could be 2 x errors by officials which would be very poor.
It won’t change anything but I will be interested to pay it attention on the replay.
It could be it wasn’t a try and he did throw the ball away but indicators are that it was a bizarre decision (according to the radio replay)
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| You will get your answer because I expect the full match video will be available today.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"You will get your answer because I expect the full match video will be available today.'"
Hopefully, most Tuesday evenings I watch the replay and put the feet up.
As for Rodwell, thought he was a big miss vs Widnes but I think we lacked that punch from the bench with Uele starting.
Think I’d have Uele on bench vs Fax for that big impact. I wouldn’t mind seeing Shaw get a run as interchange prop or Boothroyd if fit vs Fax and Bain going to 13 in place of Kay on bench who had a bit of a mare.
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| As I think, I remember it (gray cells and old age) Bain covered quite a distance to "talk" to the ref and was then carded.
The incident itself, I don't recall him kicking it, but the ball seemed to squirt up after touch down, no idea if it was a try or not, just too far away.
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| Quote ="lifelongfan"As I think, I remember it (gray cells and old age) Bain covered quite a distance to "talk" to the ref and was then carded.
The incident itself, I don't recall him kicking it, but the ball seemed to squirt up after touch down, no idea if it was a try or not, just too far away.'"
It’s not really Bains fault the ref was far away though especially if Bain was convinced he’d scored. I suppose depends what the ref and he said but if it was a try then it should never have got to that point anyway.
The radio said Bain slammed it down which made the ball shoot up but were convinced he’d scored so referred to it as a bizarre passage of play and a talking point.
I guess we will see more tonight with a closer angle I’d think.
One thing it highlights is the need for in goal touch judges. I’m very surprised that we don’t have them in the championship.
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| It’s immaterial now to be honest what he got binned for , luckily it didn’t cost us the game and lesson learned .It can happen if you petulantly kick or throw a ball away,I remember our very own Chris Perry getting sat out for 10 all those years ago .
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| Quote ="Kettykat"It’s immaterial now to be honest what he got binned for , luckily it didn’t cost us the game and lesson learned .It can happen if you petulantly kick or throw a ball away,I remember our very own Chris Perry getting sat out for 10 all those years ago .'"
Luckily it is immaterial. Hard to say too with the stand being empty. Let’s hope Bain doesn’t slam dunk another one over the line vs fax and scores in a gentle manner
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| Quote ="Kettykat"It’s immaterial now to be honest what he got binned for , luckily it didn’t cost us the game and lesson learned .It can happen if you petulantly kick or throw a ball away,I remember our very own Chris Perry getting sat out for 10 all those years ago .'"
Think you mean Colum Halpenny v Wigan.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Think you mean Colum Halpenny v Wigan.'"
IIRC Col placed the ball over the fence at the flats end of the ground
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| Well it’s no wonder Bain wasn’t happy as he clearly scores the try with a few fingers on it that bend when it hits floor (aided by the clubs footage being slowed to make the point haha) and to make it worse the ref isn’t far away.
It’s a good job it didn’t matter. Gale and Jowitt were both shocked at the card from the ref too and you can see why.
All Bain did was walk to ref asking why it wasn’t a try and he got instantly binned. That’s incredibly poor and if you get binned for that then why aren’t we seeing 5-10 players binned every round. Momorovski for example got told by ref this week to go away 2/3 times after swearing at him and arguing and still didn’t get binned.
The inconsistencies are terrible in our sport in regards officiating.
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| Not got time to watch it all at the minute, so at what point in the game did this happen please ??
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| It’s a widnes player that kicks the ball away and it does look like he scored the try, Mickeymouses gets it wrong again, shock horror
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| Quote ="FIL"Not got time to watch it all at the minute, so at what point in the game did this happen please ??'"
Around 42 mins
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| Cheers FT...will have a look
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| Quote ="financialtimes"It’s a widnes player that kicks the ball away and it does look like he scored the try, Mickeymouses gets it wrong again, shock horror
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Definite try and he was close, that’s a shocker. I noticed the ball get kicked after but Bainjust stood up in shock it wasn’t awarded and certainly didn’t look to the floor to kick the ball though it’s hard to see who does.
Shouldn’t have mattered as it was a try. Hard done to there was Bain.
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| Correct...two shocking decisions from Mickey just for a change
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| Quote ="FIL"Correct...two shocking decisions from Mickey just for a change
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He was shocking at York too.......
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| Is there a chance that Bain might have to face further sanctions, MRP and all that.
You never know these days
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| Quote ="lifelongfan"Is there a chance that Bain might have to face further sanctions, MRP and all that.
You never know these days'"
Whether the try is scored is debatable, but I can't see any reason why Bain was binned. No further action for me.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Whether the try is scored is debatable, but I can't see any reason why Bain was binned. No further action for me.'"
It shows his fingers bent on the ball as it hits the ground like in many try’s scored.
How is it debatable?
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"It shows his fingers bent on the ball as it hits the ground like in many try’s scored.
How is it debatable?'"
To me, and many others, he loses control. That's why it's debatable. Atoni is standing right above Bain and doesn't exactly celebrate the score.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"To me, and many others, he loses control. That's why it's debatable. Atoni is standing right above Bain and doesn't exactly celebrate the score.'"
I haven’t seen any of these ‘many others’ saying it’s not a try. Just checked YouTube full game comments, Facebook group comments under full match and on this forum and couldn’t find any?
Atoni doesn’t celebrate his own score. Bain certainly displays a reaction that he scored.
As far as I know fingers bent on the ball as it hits the ground has always been a try. There’s no separation in the footage. If there were separation then I would agree with you but that’s a try. I can only go off the footage which shows him slamming ball down and fingers on it when it’s grounded.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"I haven’t seen any of these ‘many others’ saying it’s not a try. Just checked YouTube full game comments, Facebook group comments under full match and on this forum and couldn’t find any?
Atoni doesn’t celebrate his own score. Bain certainly displays a reaction that he scored.
As far as I know fingers bent on the ball as it hits the ground has always been a try. There’s no separation in the footage. If there were separation then I would agree with you but that’s a try. I can only go off the footage which shows him slamming ball down and fingers on it when it’s grounded.'"
Try all day long.
A blind man on a galloping horse could have seen it.....
But obviously not the Disney character who was there.....
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| Quote ="BarnsleyGull"Try all day long.
A blind man on a galloping horse could have seen it.....
But obviously not the Disney character who was there.....'"
Maybe I’m being a little harsh on the ref as it was fast without benefit of slow motion but being so close you have to get those right. I wouldn’t suggest it’s intentional and I’m sure it’s just a line error. It’s just a good job it’s not in a playoff game where it could have big ramifications. Speaking of which does anyone know if playoff games are televised in championship?
Perhaps more of a case in goal officials or technical support for refs. It’s probably not plausible to have every game televised like SL though.
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