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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"As much as I disagree with this move. the logic is we are covered at centre better than FB. Lyne, Gaskell won't be of interest to HKR but Hall clearly would be. We don't have a great hand so are liable to get bent over.'"
Couldn't we have shown some ambition and got Dagger without swapping him for our best potential player?
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"As much as I disagree with this move. the logic is we are covered at centre better than FB. Lyne, Gaskell won't be of interest to HKR but Hall clearly would be. We don't have a great hand so are liable to get bent over.'"
With Murphy already on his way, we have just give away our next best young player.
Sorry but, its a shocker, absolute shocker.
This looks like KR have said "well who do you have, how about we take Hall" and we've been stitched up.
It almost feels like we've been scammed.
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| Quote ="marc271841"Couldn't we have shown some ambition and got Dagger without swapping him for our best potential player?'"
How?
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| Quote ="marc271841"Couldn't we have shown some ambition and got Dagger without swapping him for our best potential player?'"
We're not in the driving seat, we need a fullback KR don't need to help us, we enquire as to the availability. KR come back with a counter offer.
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| I'm guessing that Dagger wasn't available as a loan option then ??
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| Quote ="jonh"How?'"
Dagger is available / dispensable at KR hence why he's coming here.
He's agreed to play for us by the sounds of it.
So surely there is a deal to be had? And by that I mean us paying a small fee to aquire Dagger? As opposed to us offering 1 of our best players
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| Quote ="jonh"How?'"
A loan ?
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"We're not in the driving seat, we need a fullback KR don't need to help us, we enquire as to the availability. KR come back with a counter offer.'"
I'd have rather kept Hall and gone with Kay at fullback with Hood & Bowes as first choice hooking options. Jowitt will be back in 7 or 8 weeks anyway and Dagger will likely be relegated to back up. We've been done good and proper.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"We're not in the driving seat, we need a fullback KR don't need to help us, we enquire as to the availability. KR come back with a counter offer.'"
And we should say "no chance we're not doing that".
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| Quote ="marc271841"Dagger is available / dispensable at KR hence why he's coming here.
He's agreed to play for us by the sounds of it.
So surely there is a deal to be had? And by that I mean us paying a small fee to aquire Dagger? As opposed to us offering 1 of our best players'"
A small fee?!
We have no money!…this is without taking into account an additional wage on the cap.
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| I’m not defending it but for me we stand more or a chance staying up with Dagger in the squad than we do Hall.
It’s that simple for me.
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| Quote ="jonh"I’m not defending it but for me we stand more or a chance staying up with Dagger in the squad than we do Hall.
It’s that simple for me.'"
What happens when langi/lynne gets injured
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| Gaskell steps in ??...it was his best position last year.
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| Dagger left our academy/scholarship for the bright lights of Wire many years back but has remained in the shadows since.
The club, fans and fan groups are trying to enthuse people to get across to Saints on Friday and then out of the blue 5hit like this happens. No comment yet from any of the triumvirate yet either.
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| Quote ="Luppylad"What happens when langi/lynne gets injured'"
Or Dagger himself. The most games he's managed in a season in his career so far is 13 and it's not just due to not getting selected. He's picked up a good few injuries so far for a player his age.
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| Not many know this but Dagger is a trinity academy product.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"Not many know this but Dagger is a trinity academy product.'"
So is Corey Hall
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| Quote ="jonh"A small fee?!
We have no money!…this is without taking into account an additional wage on the cap.'"
Hence my comment about ambition! If we genuinely wanted to help ourselves and our chances of survival, are we soooo skint that we can't throw a bit of caution to the wind?
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| That's just ridiculous.
If its true someone needs their head shaking.
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| Quote ="Luppylad"What happens when langi/lynne gets injured'"
Gaskill I guess. He was certainly better at centre than he was at 1.
Look what happens when our 1 got injured!
It’s ok saying so and so has done well filling in there but the reality is they haven’t.
1 is a key position in the spine, in the modern game maybe the most important position on the pitch.
A couple have had a decent enough crack at it but look lost when it comes to the finer points of the game.
Yes they have caught and tackled…but a fullback is an extra pivot and we have massively suffered lacking someone capable of playing that role.
The whole thing is a mess but as I say I personally think we stand more of a chance however slim staying up with Dagger in the team than Hall at the current time.
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| Quote ="altofts wildcat"So is Corey Hall'"
Yes he is, and if I was a betting man, I would say Hall has had his head turned by two former Trinity team mates, and perhaps suggested to the club he’s unhappy with our situation, and our management have always said they wouldn’t prevent an unhappy player moving on. I think if Dagger stays fit, then he’ll do a job for us.
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| Quote ="marc271841"Hence my comment about ambition! If we genuinely wanted to help ourselves and our chances of survival, are we soooo skint that we can't throw a bit of caution to the wind?'"
Ok so maybe £30k and then an £80k wage?
It’s not chicken feed and no I don’t expect the club have that kind of money hidden away in one of the directors mattresses.
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| Quote ="altofts wildcat"So is Corey Hall'"
Yes he is, and if I was a betting man, I would say Hall has had his head turned by two former Trinity team mates, and perhaps suggested to the club he’s unhappy with our situation, and our management have always said they wouldn’t prevent an unhappy player moving on. I think if Dagger stays fit, then he’ll do a job for us.
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| Quote ="jonh"It depends how we look at things.
Got to take this on a short term and long term basis.
Long term…madness.
Short term it probably makes sense.
We have Langi and Lynn, as well as Gaskill able to play Centre.
We have 1 full back and are desperate for another. Dagger is also a bit of a utility.
I’d like to think we can look long term…but in the situation in which we find ourselves we have to try to do something to assist with the fullback position.
It’s a move that smacks of desperation, but unfortunately that is the position in which we find ourselves we have to do anything to look after the now the 2023 season we cannot realistically look longer term than that.
Very depressing the whole thing though.'" pleased with this from a kr point of view but your post is correct , dagger is a good player and still only young aswell
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"Yes he is, and if I was a betting man, I would say Hall has had his head turned by two former Trinity team mates, and perhaps suggested to the club he’s unhappy with our situation, and our management have always said they wouldn’t prevent an unhappy player moving on. I think if Dagger stays fit, then he’ll do a job for us.'"
Agreed.
Hall hasn’t looked up for the fight.
We need lads up for the fight.
I think conversations will have been had and a deal reached that suits all stakeholders.
I think Dagger’s wage will be getting paid partially at least by KR too.
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