I'm OK with what they say, except the don't say how many are in the 'top tier'

Doesn't tell you anything as far as I can see.

I assume P&R to SL is scrapped?

As you say, how many teams in SL, which is rather important. Not least because it affects funding via SKY monies.

Has to be more to it than this, otherwise it's just Framing the future regurgitated.

That’s it????

Seriously???

That’s it?!?


If that were done for a business I had responsibility for… at club or competition level… I’d be bouncing off the wall and bouncing the consultants out of town!!!

That’s seriously poor!!!

I think the point is that this is a summary and the detail will be released later.

I assume top 1 and 2 will be funded like Super League. They are making tier 1 a franchise system and tier 2/3 a P&R system.

I see it as a load of rubbish and there just looking after the big clubs again.that said if we could get a little bit of investment maybe just maybe we may be ok with the ground getting face lift and a great youth system and community team

So a rehashed idea from 10 years ago.

Probably no more French clubs

Participation of clubs outside of the UK to be capped and with additional standards to support domestic growth.

Is it not like the proposed European football league? SL will be a mix of cat A and Cat B teams , but only Cat B teams being relegated. Would we be Cat A or B?

It appear that if they access enough Category A clubs to fill tier 1 then it becomes a closed shop. The important factor then becomes the league size and the criteria applicable.

That’s might be all down to a minimum standards policy. Deja Vu anyone?

What if there are 20 grade ‘A’ clubs??? What if there are no grade ‘A’ clubs??

What are the criteria??
What happens in 23/24/25?
Does a sustainable community club rank higher than a privately funded first grade team or vice verse?
Does owning your own stadium rank higher than renting or vice verse?
What is the optimum business model for sustainability and growth??

To make bland motherhood statements and not provide any criteria at this stage suggests to me that the consultants do not understand the operating environment or the fan culture of the sport…

Framing the future (again)

Looks - as usual - that they haven't taken anything on board (as I suspected) from the fans and will just do what the "big" clubs want......
Complete waste of time.
It was a chance for the smaller and less well off clubs to stick together - doesn't look at the moment like thats happened either.

They should’ve gone to 14 teams if they were going back to licensing. All this seems to do is make sure the top 4 stay the top 4. Again.

The big issue here, apart from there not currently being 12 grade A clubs (which is interesting, as they havent fully defined the criteria), is what happent if/when they change any of the criteria (usually done to accommodate a newbie ?

Again, it will be interesting to see what happens with overseas clubs and their "academies"

Right now, us and Cas are under most threat with grounds, with Cas, Salford and KR and Warrington ? under pressure with academies.
Also, what happens when there are 6 /7 grade A clubs and then numbers are made up with grade B, which criteria will carry most weight ?

Certainly looks like theyvhave ignored fans and listened to mcmanus,lennigan,herhrington....

Load of crap if you ask me also bye bye magic

Also, how can you have Ken Davey as the Chairman of Super League?????

Seems that way as there appeared overwhelming support of 14 team league.

At least we don’t have to put up with 10 and seeing clubs face off 4/5 times a season.

Seeing as its from 2024, we should be (hopefully) "OK" on that score.......

No mention of Sky funding (or any alternative). Without cash, this is just toilet roll.
I'd like a house with a swimming pool and snooker room but, without a lottery win, it ain't happening.

There's quite a bit more detail on twitter from journos at the press conference. But French clubs are very much on the agenda by the sounds (capped at 2 conveniently), although they will have to contribute to travel costs until they have a TV/sponsorship deal in place to cover the costs.

Anyway no change for 2023, P&R remains. From 2024 12 teams to start with a plan to expand to 14 by 2027, no loop fixtures, magic scrapped, challenge cup final back to May, London & France 'growth areas', push the international game, strong emphasis on a clubs digital content, marketing etc, financial investment into clubs the aim, review of salary cap including a minimum spend, improving matchday experience - making more 'an event'. Probably other stuff i missed.

Pop round to my gaff wrencat and you can use mine...

Have you got a link to the Twitter account with this on?

Magic Weekend scrapped is farcical. It’s one of the events that make it stand out.

Have to say it was a cracking venture. I’d have scrapped the loop fixtures but had 1 extra magic fixture dependent on previous seasons finishings. 1v2, 3v4, 5v6 etc.

Also with no loop fixtures and 12 teams… that’s 22 fixtures a year. That’s some lost revenue of 1/2 gates. How will that shortfall be made up?

As for our ground. Without these 12 million developments we would be at serious risk. I’d say we are still at risk but less so. What we do need to do is ensure our youth/community especially remains excellent and keep further investing into that. We are already very good on those areas.

Only thing to hold us back is the stadium and marketing.

Well if Grade A clubs are at the bottom, it will be the next grade b club that's relegated?